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22-09-2019, 01:12   #16
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22-09-2019, 08:07   #17
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So when someone does something and knows there are risks but mitigates them and an unintended outcome occurs its not an accident?

When 2 cars collide do you consider it an accident even though they both headed off knowing a crash was possible?
Car collisions are usually someone's fault.
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Car collisions are usually someone's fault.
Yes, but still an accident surely?
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Yes, but still an accident surely?
Nope they're called collisions as to take away from the word accident.
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Nope they're called collisions as to take away from the word accident.
The collision is the result of the accident.
Accidental loss of attention or a sudden unexpected change in road conditions leads to a loss of control and then the collision.
E.g a driver sneezes and in the period of autonomic eye closure the car drifts across the white line causing a collision.

Or a patch of oil on the road causes loss off traction and control hence the car spins off the road.

The collision is the result of an accident or oversight that is usually a risk mitigated against.
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So when someone does something and knows there are risks but mitigates them and an unintended outcome occurs its not an accident?

When 2 cars collide do you consider it an accident even though they both headed off knowing a crash was possible?
A likely outcome of an intended action can’t really be an accident.
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Don’t you stop ovulating when long term on the pill?
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22-09-2019, 10:16   #23
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I'm male and touch wood have never dealt with an unintended pregnancy. That said I wasn't always sensible and did have drunken unprotected sex with girls where I didn't know if they were on a contraceptive (and yes condoms should of course have been used).

Generally in relationships I relied on the pill without issue.

Now my wife and I are recently after having our second child and reckon we're ready to stop. Will be very careful and must organise an appointment for a vacestomy when we're certain.
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Don’t you stop ovulating when long term on the pill?
Eh, what!?
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22-09-2019, 10:42   #25
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Eh, what!?
You know you don’t have an actual period when you’re on the pill?
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You know you don’t have an actual period when you’re on the pill?
Yes. But if you forget to take it, or its efficacy is destroyed due to an upset stomach, antibiotics or some such, you may well ovulate. It doesn't matter how long you've been on it for.
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Or you can use euphemism and say it was an accident. As a society we use euphemisms all the time to mellow what we are saying. For example you can say 'but how exactly is your pregnancy accidental?' When you are really thinking 'why are you such a moron?'. Because that's what you really wanted to say when you started this thread.

Eh not at all you're wrong there. Never thought anyone I knew who got pregnant was a moron for doing so. You sound like you've a massive chip on your shoulder
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I've had a condom split during sex before and we didn't realise until after, luckily I was on the pill at the time so I wasn't too worried, that's one way it could happen though.

I have IBS which flares up quite badly at times so I could never really fully depend on the pill, due to frequent stomach upsets and diarrhoea. I have the coil in now, but something like that could lead to an accidental pregnancy too.
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A lot of women’s cycles get irregular as they get older and the pill isn’t recommended for many after 35 and not suitable fo others. So yes it’s quite easy to get caught out.

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'The pull out method' isn't recommended for anyone!
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