Soros

Dohnjoe · 10-09-2019 8:12pm #1

Good piece on the far right (and conspiracy theorists) obsession with Soros here

https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-49584157

He's a Jewish multi-billionaire philanthropist who has given away $32bn. Why does the hard right from America to Australia and from Hungary to Honduras believe George Soros is at the heart of a global conspiracy, asks the BBC's Mike Rudin.

One quiet Monday afternoon last October in leafy upstate New York, a large manila envelope was placed in the mailbox of an exclusive country mansion belonging to multi-billionaire philanthropist George Soros.

The package looked suspicious. The return address was misspelt as "FLORIDS" and the mail had already been delivered earlier that day. The police were called and soon the FBI was on the scene.

Inside the bubble-wrapped envelope was a photograph of Soros, marked with a red "X". Alongside it, a six-inch plastic pipe, a small clock, a battery, wiring and a black powder.

More than a dozen similar packages were sent to the homes of former President Barack Obama, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other prominent Democrats.

None of the devices exploded. The FBI traced the bombs to a white van covered in pro-Trump and anti-Democrat stickers, parked in a supermarket car park in Florida.

Immediately the right-wing media claimed it was a "false-flag" operation intended to derail President Donald Trump and the Republican campaign, just two weeks before the crucial US mid-term elections.

Fox Business host Lou Dobbs tweeted: "Fake News - Fake Bombs. Who could possibly benefit by so much fakery?" Conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh added: "Republicans just don't do this kind of thing."

Any conspiracy forums I visit are awash with mentions and conspiracies about this man. The root cause seems to be nothing more than base antisemitism.

Ipso · 11-09-2019 4:55pm

Shur didn’t he help round up jooz in the holocaust that never happened.
To be fair though, the Koch brothers almost took in a similar boogey man role for liberals.

Overheal · 11-09-2019 9:40pm

Ipso wrote: »

Shur didn’t he help round up jooz in the holocaust that never happened.
To be fair though, the Koch brothers almost took in a similar boogey man role for liberals.

Did not see any (to my recollection) incidences of tragedies being labeled false flags orchestrated by crisis actors paid for by the Koch bros. Soros on the other hand..

Ipso · 12-09-2019 1:19am

Overheal wrote: »

Ipso wrote: »

Shur didn’t he help round up jooz in the holocaust that never happened.
To be fair though, the Koch brothers almost took in a similar boogey man role for liberals.

Did not see any (to my recollection) incidences of tragedies being labeled false flags orchestrated by crisis actors paid for by the Koch bros. Soros on the other hand..

Of course not to that extent.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 12-09-2019 1:27am

Soros is spending money on something though.

What’s the point of this forum. It’s banned the last known conspiracy theorist and all thats left is a moderator and a few obsessed posters who are anti conspiracy theories.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 12-09-2019 1:28am

Ipso wrote: »

Shur didn’t he help round up jooz in the holocaust that never happened.
To be fair though, the Koch brothers almost took in a similar boogey man role for liberals.

They are also spending money - this time on right wing causes.

Dohnjoe · 12-09-2019 1:34am

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Soros is spending money on something though.

What’s the point of this forum. It’s banned the last known conspiracy theorist and all thats left is a moderator and a few obsessed posters who are anti conspiracy theories.

Plenty of conspiracy theories and inside jobs happening in the world, they are just rarely discussed here

King Mob · 12-09-2019 2:08am

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

Soros is spending money on something though.

What’s the point of this forum. It’s banned the last known conspiracy theorist and all thats left is a moderator and a few obsessed posters who are anti conspiracy theories.

You would prefer a forum where conspiracy theories aren't subject to even a bare level of questioning?

Hulk Hands · 12-09-2019 2:00pm

King Mob wrote: »

You would prefer a forum where conspiracy theories aren't subject to even a bare level of questioning?

Is it not a bit odd that all your activity on the site (over 10k posts) is disproving conspiracy theories? Your entire activity over the past year has been responding to one theorist, who is now banned.

Is this your sole passion in life? Arguing with people you refer to as crackpots?

King Mob · 12-09-2019 2:14pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Is it not a bit odd that all your activity on the site (over 10k posts) is disproving conspiracy theories? Your entire activity over the past year has been responding to one theorist, who is now banned.

Is this your sole passion in life? Arguing with people you refer to as crackpots?

Good to know you took the time to snoop into my profile and insult me without actually answering the question in my post.

Hulk Hands · 12-09-2019 2:19pm

King Mob wrote: »

Good to know you took the time to snoop into my profile and insult me without actually answering the question in my post.

Franz's post is correct, what's the point of a CT forum when there's one theorist who's now banned and a merry pack of ye ganging up on every post that he makes? A lot of the forum (had a brief glance through the other night) seems as if its just page after page of a few of ye insulting one lad

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Plenty of conspiracy theories and inside jobs happening in the world, they are just rarely discussed here

Why not mention and start a discussion on a few

King Mob · 12-09-2019 2:31pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Franz's post is correct, what's the point of a CT forum when there's one theorist who's now banned and a merry pack of ye ganging up on every post that he makes? A lot of the forum (had a brief glance through the other night) seems as if its just page after page of a few of ye insulting one lad

Again, you are the one leaping in and throwing insults at me.

You still have not addressed my point countering Franz's post.
What would be the point of a CT forum where every basic questioning of conspiracy theories is verboten?

There's plenty of those safe spaces out there for conspiracy theorists who can't deal with questions.

Hulk Hands · 12-09-2019 2:37pm

This isn't current affairs or the politics forum though. I'd have thought the point of a Conspiracy forum was a place for people to throw out wacky theories without fear of the type of belittling you'd get on other parts of the site. Not page after page of a 4 v 1 discussion.

Anyway, this is a far bigger part of your life than it is mine so don't let me tell you how to run your forum. Just an observation

King Mob · 12-09-2019 2:45pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

This isn't current affairs or the politics forum though. I'd have thought the point of a Conspiracy forum was a place for people to throw out wacky theories without fear of the type of belittling you'd get on other parts of the site. Not page after page of a 4 v 1 discussion.

What belittling are you referring to?

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Anyway, this is a far bigger part of your life than it is mine so don't let me tell you how to run your forum. Just an observation

Would this count as belittling?

Dr. Bre · 12-09-2019 2:52pm

No point bothering with the conspiracy theories anymore - one lad cheerful and loads of anti conspiracy theorists.

The Nal · 12-09-2019 2:59pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

No point bothering with the conspiracy theories anymore - one lad cheerful and loads of anti conspiracy theorists.

Well now is your chance.

Soros, anyone have a theory on the guy?

Dr. Bre · 12-09-2019 3:02pm

The Nal wrote: »

Well now is your chance.

Soros, anyone have a theory on the guy?

No view on him

Dohnjoe · 12-09-2019 3:04pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

This isn't current affairs or the politics forum though. I'd have thought the point of a Conspiracy forum was a place for people to throw out wacky theories without fear of the type of belittling you'd get on other parts of the site. Not page after page of a 4 v 1 discussion.

If someone wants to post spurious or false information, it's only natural people will correct it.

What's the harm in pointing out false information?

On the other side of the coin, we've seen that conspiracy beliefs can actually be harmful. Several mass shootings have been linked with "white genocide" and "white replacement" conspiracy theories. The Tsarnaev brothers who carried out the Boston bombings believed 911 was an inside job. The Pittsburg synagogue shooter has been linked to antisemitic conspiracy theories, anti-Soros conspiracies

The Nal · 12-09-2019 3:17pm

The main theory is that he worked with the Nazis in WW2 despite being 15 years of age when Hitler died.

Overheal · 12-09-2019 9:08pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

This isn't current affairs or the politics forum though. I'd have thought the point of a Conspiracy forum was a place for people to throw out wacky theories without fear of the type of belittling you'd get on other parts of the site. Not page after page of a 4 v 1 discussion.

Anyway, this is a far bigger part of your life than it is mine so don't let me tell you how to run your forum. Just an observation

It’s not possible to ensure an equal number of A vs B. The real trick is finding conspiracy theorists who don’t blithely violate the rules of the forum, it isn’t practical to not take action against users who are disruptive, troll, soapbox, attack users, etc. just because they support a theorycrafting viewpoint. Not that any of this is germane to the topic of this thread - George Soros.

Carded for the two counts of personal abuse.

Ipso · 14-09-2019 5:58am

It’s very simple, actually.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShonEnoch28/status/1171991442920808449

Soros

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