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    #482
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,769 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Harmful use of alcohol kills more than 3 million people each year, most of them men


    Any progress on this front or is just flu like diseases they think is the big threat to society

    Close the bars and off licences now ban all alcohol
    I mean its about saving lives :rolleyes:

    What an utterly stupid analogy


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    #483
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    What an utterly stupid analogy

    Not really your peddling BS about saving lives
    what happened to all the flu deaths

    98& less flu in southern hemisphere where did it go
    masks common sense stuff ?
    how come cases of covid rose in the same period


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    #484
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    What an utterly stupid analogy

    Is it not about saving lives ?


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    #485
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,769 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    Not really your peddling BS about saving lives
    what happened to all the flu deaths

    98& less flu in southern hemisphere where did it go
    masks common sense stuff ?
    how come cases of covid rose in the same period

    Lol. Flu is an infectious ilness, why have cases decreased? Think..


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    #486
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,500 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    enno99 wrote: »
    Harmful use of alcohol kills more than 3 million people each year, most of them men

    Globally an estimated 237 million men and 46 million women suffer from alcohol-use disorders with the highest prevalence among men and women in the European region (14.8% and 3.5%) and the Region of Americas (11.5% and 5.1%). Alcohol-use disorders are more common in high-income countries.



    Any progress on this front or is just flu like diseases they think is the big threat to society

    Close the bars and off licences now ban all alcohol
    I mean its about saving lives :rolleyes:

    Alcohol abuse isn't infectious. We also have laws around protecting people from people that are drunk and protecting the person themselves.

    Your analogy is stupid and you should feel bad.


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    #487
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,769 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    st,small,845x845-pad,1000x1000,f8f8f8.jpg

    We're gonna need a bigger Bingo card


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    #488
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    And as for vaccines you should be cheering on those who dont want or trust it
    I mean it will ensure you and your buddys will get it first
    we can see if you come out the other end unscathed


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    #489
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Lol. Flu is an infectious ilness, why have cases decreased? Think..

    you tell me

    Because masks/hand washing didnt work for covid 0r we would have 98% decrease


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    #490
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,769 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


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    #491
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,769 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    you tell me

    Because masks/hand washing didnt work for covid 0r we would have 98% decrease

    Jesus christ..


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    #492
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    Alcohol abuse isn't infectious. We also have laws around protecting people from people that are drunk and protecting the person themselves.

    Your analogy is stupid and you should feel bad.

    No I highlighted commom sense measures to curb it
    but you ignore that to make a silly point

    That was the point I was making
    Commom sense to alcohol problem ban it

    its really that simple if you want to stop all the deaths and misery

    would you agree ?


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    #493
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Jesus christ..

    is he the answer:)


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    #494
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,500 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    enno99 wrote: »
    No I highlighted commom sense measures to curb it
    but you ignore that to make a silly point

    That was the point I was making
    Commom sense to alcohol problem ban it

    its really that simple if you want to stop all the deaths and misery

    would you agree ?

    No, I wouldn't agree with your nonsense. We have laws around drinking too much, driving, standards around working. These are common sense measures.

    Similarly slowing the spread and eventually providing a vaccine are commonsense approaches.


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    #495
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    No, I wouldn't agree with your nonsense. We have laws around drinking too much, driving, standards around working. These are common sense measures.

    Similarly slowing the spread and eventually providing a vaccine are commonsense approaches.

    laws are not working or the other measures you state so why not ban it


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    #496
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,500 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    enno99 wrote: »
    laws are not working or the other measures you state so why not ban it

    We definitely could do more. However, this is pure whataboutery. If you want to start a thread on alcohol abuse away with you


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    #497
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    In March, the New York Times published a bombshell report on alarming ties between the alcohol industry and the National Institutes of Health. Specifically, five alcohol companies helped fund — and potentially shaped the design of — a 7,800-person randomized controlled trial overseen by the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, a center at the NIH. The trial is supposed to answer the long-simmering question of whether moderate drinking truly reduces the risk of cardiovascular disease.

    https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/3/21/17139036/health-effects-alcohol-moderate-drinking-nih

    This might help explain it


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    #498
    EyesClosed
    Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    enno99 wrote: »
    In March, the New York Times published a bombshell report on alarming ties between the alcohol industry and the National Institutes of Health. Specifically, five alcohol companies helped fund — and potentially shaped the design of — a 7,800-person randomized controlled trial overseen by the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, a center at the NIH. The trial is supposed to answer the long-simmering question of whether moderate drinking truly reduces the risk of cardiovascular disease.

    https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/3/21/17139036/health-effects-alcohol-moderate-drinking-nih

    This might help explain it

    ... What's this got to do with a vaccine conspiracy... Also what the hell is the conspiracy???


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    #499
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,769 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    you tell me

    You can do this. Think.

    Why has an existing infectious illness reduced this year?

    What changed in the world this year?

    Bonus question (because I know you'll try to go down that rabbit hole): What's the difference between an infectious illness that's been around for a long time, and a new infectious illness?


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    #500
    Steve012
    Registered Users Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Xtrail14 wrote: »
    China are working on COVID 21 vaccine

    Huh? any links please?


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    #501
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    You can do this. Think.

    Why has an existing infectious illness reduced this year?

    What changed in the world this year?

    Bonus question (because I know you'll try to go down that rabbit hole): What's the difference between an infectious illness that's been around for a long time, and a new infectious illness?

    The test is flawed ask Kary B Mullins

    People presenting with flu are being diagnosed with covid
    People dying with flu are dying with covid

    really simple less flu more covid


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    #502
    Trigger
    Registered Users Posts: 17,538 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Mod: Cut out trying to compare a Vaccine for an infectious disease to alcohol intake and alcoholism, they should be in no way compared and it is just bringing the thread way off topic


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    #503
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 17,769 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    enno99 wrote: »
    The test is flawed ask Kary B Mullins

    People presenting with flu are being diagnosed with covid
    People dying with flu are dying with covid

    really simple less flu more covid

    Anyway less people are getting the flu this year due to measures used to reduce Covid. Masks, social distancing, hand-washing, lockdown, etc obviously have an impact on any infectious illness that spreads with close contact. A newer more virulent/infectious disease is more likely to spread than an existing illness (which has vaccines, etc), but both will have their spread hampered to relative degrees by those measures.

    My friend's wife is an ICU nurse. Some individuals are literally dying angry and confused because they don't believe the virus is real, or because they think it's all a conspiracy.


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    #504
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,400 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Lex Luthor wrote: »
    define a significant allergy as opposed to an allergy

    My allergy to flu jab was slight swelling and some discomfort = an allergy

    Someone who smells a peanut, swells up and dies = a significant allergy.


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    #505
    enno99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Anyway less people are getting the flu this year due to measures used to reduce Covid. Masks, social distancing, hand-washing, lockdown, etc obviously have an impact on any infectious illness that spreads with close contact. A newer more virulent/infectious disease is more likely to spread than an existing illness (which has vaccines, etc), but both will have their spread hampered to relative degrees by those measures.

    My friend's wife is an ICU nurse. Some individuals are literally dying angry and confused because they don't believe the virus is real, or because they think it's all a conspiracy.

    Can we look forward to this every year so to save all who would die from Flu ?


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    #506
    Steve012
    Registered Users Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Steve012


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    My allergy to flu jab was slight swelling and some discomfort = an allergy

    Someone who smells a peanut, swells up and dies = a significant allergy.

    Surely ta Jaysus the first batch of folk who got the vaccine would have been asked, allergic to any medicines allergic to shell fish e.g ? Not only is it procedure,
    but wouldn't they take good deep personal health details to see how first folk reacted. Good it's just 2 people and they recognized quickly though.

    A long year, looks like the beginning of the end now, that's what (just a guess) 80% of the worlds top virologist etc, can do when working flat out. 👏🏼


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    #507
    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Lol. Flu is an infectious ilness, why have cases decreased? Think..

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    #508
    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    st,small,845x845-pad,1000x1000,f8f8f8.jpg

    We're gonna need a bigger Bingo card

    my new wallpaper :p


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    #509
    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
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    #510
    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Anyway less people are getting the flu this year due to measures used to reduce Covid. Masks, social distancing, hand-washing, lockdown, etc

    source?


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    #511
    Lex Luthor
    Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Steve012 wrote: »
    A long year, looks like the beginning of the end now,

    i dont share your optimism


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