[dolanbaker]

Originally Posted by Gaoth Laidir

That sounds very conspiracy-theorist. Spain has had a decent snowfall over a wider area than usual, however the whole country is not under snow down to all levels. The -34 C reported in the Pyrenees earlier this week was measured by a brand new station (1 year old) sitting in a blow 2305 metres up on the top of a mountain. It's certain that such a low temperature has occurred in that place before and was just not observed. In any case, one event does not a winter make.

But yes, the predictions of doom re. sea ice have been shifted and shifted out year after year to the point that such predictions are as frequent and questionable as the annual Daily Express headlines of "Worst Winter in 50 Years On The Way".

Proof positive as to why so many records are being broken in recent years, more weather stations in previously unmonitored areas. Many of these being in areas that are more likely to experience extreme weather.

Meanwhile there are still huge areas of the planet that are completely unmonitored and their weather is calculated from the average of two or more weather stations 100s to 1000s of km away. Many of the places that are furtherest away from human activity are the least monitored, but have their weather calculated from places close to human activity.

[Gaoth Laidir]

Originally Posted by dolanbaker

Proof positive as to why so many records are being broken in recent years, more weather stations in previously unmonitored areas. Many of these being in areas that are more likely to experience extreme weather.

Meanwhile there are still huge areas of the planet that are completely unmonitored and their weather is calculated from the average of two or more weather stations 100s to 1000s of km away. Many of the places that are furtherest away from human activity are the least monitored, but have their weather calculated from places close to human activity.

Well case in point is the time machine posted yesterday. The places with the least coverage are some of the places showing the highest anomalies now. But you're not supposed to highlight that at all, it seems.

[Nabber]

Also worth noting that satellite data is less accurate that ground stations, also that satellite data is a calculation of temps derived from computer modelling of Earths brightness. Don't know that that is communicated well.

The assumption that the average temp of the globe (land and sea), was known from as early as 1880 at every point in time within a .01 of a degree. To me at least that's how it's portrayed. Where the data does not corroborate the warming trend the data is adjusted. Some isolated stations also fell foul of island heating Must have be adjusted because they had 'island' in the name

That's a tough starting point to get on board with any theory.

[Danno]

Originally Posted by Danno

Before you do though - why did you drop Asia from your evaluation of my comments regarding sterilisation? (not with a z-ed). What card comes next I do wonder?

Originally Posted by Banana Republic 1

Are moderators aloud to be racists now ?

Well that didn't take long. Now, I'm gonna ask you to show me where exactly I said people need to be sterilised based upon their skin-colour or kindly withdraw that statement. Levelling accusations of racism against me is a charge I don't take lightly.

Originally Posted by Nabber

The assumption that the average temp of the globe (land and sea), was known from as early as 1880 at every point in time within a .01 of a degree.

What amazes me is how the Climate Alarmists are so sure about their models showing 1880 temperatures as gospel. Yet, in Ireland the 33.3c recorded in Kilkenny during 1887 has been cast in doubt: https://twitter.com/cmurphy2904/stat...971577862?s=20
Likewise in Australia, the previous record high temperature in 1909 was "scrubbed" from the record books. https://jennifermarohasy.com/2020/07...-january-1909/
Why?

Either the records are accurate or they're not. If they're not, then these world average temperature fancy maps of 1880 are worthless and thus undermines the whole warming planet theory.

[Nabber]

Originally Posted by Danno

Either the records are accurate or they're not. If they're not, then these world average temperature fancy maps of 1880 are worthless and thus undermines the whole warming planet theory.

Satellite data is also subject to adjustment. Where data doesn’t match adjustments are made based on orbital decay and various other parameters.

Not to say that is wrong, but is should be clearly indicated imagine if they led with “after adjusting the data we can clearly see a warming trend”.

[Wanderer78]

Originally Posted by Danno

Ah, this nugget - the over-population issue. Lets sterilise Africa and most parts of Asia, yeah? That's where they're popping out babbies to bate the band. Start there, okay? Agree?

Growing wealth inequality is probably playing a critical role here, and I'd have to agree, this is a racist slur

[pistolpetes11]

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Just went through a few pages of , I don't even know what to call it at this stage and Im going to close this thread for a few days to let people calm down , this conversation may need posts to be approved going forward if folks can't stay civil , Ive no skin in the discussion either way but the behaviour in here falls well short of the standards of this forum