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  • #32
    washman3
    Registered Users Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    statesaver wrote: »
    Were they in receipt of Social Welfare payments ?


    Were they fcuk...
    Most sweated blood to send that many home.
    Otherwise they would have starved over there.

    My own relatives included.


  • #33
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    Where do you get that figure from?
    Revenue.

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/corporate/press-office/press-releases/2019/pr-090519-revenue-publishes-2018-annual-report.aspx


  • #34
    Beta Ray Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    is_that_so wrote: »
    French & other EU MNC workers come here for 2-3 years for their CV. It's pretty logical to imagine they'll send as much of that cash home as they can.

    I agree, but why is so much going to France?

    Most of the money went to Poland, Nigeria and France. (allegedly)

    Poland is understandable, we have a huge Polish population in Ireland.
    Poland is in the EU and they're fully entitled to be here

    Nigeria is what it is.

    France is an anomaly, there isn't a huge amount of french people in Ireland.
    I'd argue there are more Italians, Spanish, British and Germans here than French.
    So why is so much money going there?


  • #35
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Not at the behest of the ramblings of a less than stellar TD. Nah, 97% or so compliance tells its own tale. Banks do enforce those rules as it's really not in their interest to flout them.

    Banks do, what about all of the online app that can now send money?? Western Union?? Money gram?? Etc


  • #36
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Banks do, what about all of the online app that can now send money?? Western Union?? Money gram?? Etc
    They'd be licensed by the CB so rules apply to them as well. You'd be a pretty thick crim if you went over the limit intentionally and raised flags all over the place!


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  • #37
    zell12
    Registered Users Posts: 23,329 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    To point out that a significant amount of people of Nigerian origin are Irish citizens, and the Census reflects them as Irish, therefore the per capita figures are misleading


  • #38
    vriesmays
    Registered Users Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭vriesmays


    You think Nigerians are Irish.


  • #39
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Beta Ray Bill wrote: »
    I agree, but why is so much going to France?

    Most of the money went to Poland, Nigeria and France. (allegedly)

    Poland is understandable, we have a huge Polish population in Ireland.
    Poland is in the EU and they're fully entitled to be here

    Nigeria is what it is.

    France is an anomaly, there isn't a huge amount of french people in Ireland.
    I'd argue there are more Italians, Spanish, British and Germans here than French.
    So why is so much money going there?

    UK numbers are second to Poles. The French would be the biggest of European cousins - about 12K I think. As I said probably a lot of MNC people in there, earning lots of money.


  • #40
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    vriesmays wrote: »
    You think Nigerians are Irish.

    They would be Nigerians. He's talking on Irish people whose family line comes from Nigeria. You know not every Irish family evolved in Ireland from monkeys?


  • #41
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    if you are asking a question, the answer to which could cast any minority in a negative light, then you should not be asking the question.


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  • #42
    Harvey Weinstein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    if you are asking a question, the answer to which could cast any minority in a negative light, then you should not be asking the question.

    Thats whats really (no extremely) worrying about this, the idea that asking a perfectly legitimate question is now 'racist'
    The new Hate Speech laws will make asking this question an offence.

    Never mind the fact that a number of politicians and journalists have asked this very question just a few short years ago with no outcry whatsoever.


  • #43
    Harvey Weinstein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    At least 150k Polish here, several times the number of Nigerians..yet the Poles send home less than half of what the Nigerians do.

    Something completely out of whack here.


  • #44
    blueshade
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 428 ✭✭blueshade


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Not at the behest of the ramblings of a less than stellar TD. Nah, 97% or so compliance tells its own tale. Banks do enforce those rules as it's really not in their interest to flout them.

    Banks here have a massive problem with students letting people use their bank accounts in these money scams. I particularly remember the young African girl that got caught at it last year, slap on the wrist that only encourages more of it. It was only last year that Western Union branches here made changes to it's policy requiring more ID checks. Have a look around you when you walk past any ethnic food store or any of those African hair salons and you'll see that most have facilities for wiring money back home.


  • #45
    blueshade
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 428 ✭✭blueshade


    Harvey Weinstein wrote: »
    At least 150k Polish here, several times the number of Nigerians..yet the Poles send home less than half of what the Nigerians do.

    Something completely out of whack here.

    The Poles work the Nigerians don't.


  • #46
    Harvey Weinstein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    blueshade wrote: »
    The Poles work the Nigerians don't.

    Thats Hate speech my friend!

    Of course the fact that it might be the truth is neither here nor there in our wonderful new society.


  • #47
    blueshade
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 428 ✭✭blueshade


    Harvey Weinstein wrote: »
    Thats Hate speech my friend!

    Of course the fact that it might be the truth is neither here nor there in our wonderful new society.

    Anything that is considered hate speech by the ''new communities'' is hate speech now. Funny how as the numbers grow we need new laws to stop people talking about it.


  • #48
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blueshade wrote: »
    The Poles work the Nigerians don't.

    Link?


  • #49
    Beta Ray Bill
    Registered Users Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    is_that_so wrote: »
    UK numbers are second to Poles. The French would be the biggest of European cousins - about 12K I think. As I said probably a lot of MNC people in there, earning lots of money.

    According to 2014 figures in the Irish Times:
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/almost-one-in-eight-living-in-ireland-hail-from-abroad-1.2471339

    Poles 118,042
    British 115,658
    Lithuanians 35,617
    Latvians 20,086
    Nigerians 19,727

    Unusually, the CSO figures put less than 10,000 Nigerian people in Ireland in 2016.
    https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp7md/p7md/p7anii/

    Regardless of either of the above, the questions till remains.
    Why is a so much going to France?


  • #50
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,169 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    if you are asking a question, the answer to which could cast any minority in a negative light, then you should not be asking the question.


    That is an absolutely ridiculous point and I will give an example to explain why.

    There are more women than men in the world. Men are therefore a minority. That means that asking a question about a gender pay gap which discriminates against women is a question that casts a minority (men) in a negative light. Therefore it shouldn't be asked and the gender pay gap that favours men should be perpetuated.

    Really the thought police are going too far.


  • #51
    blueshade
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 428 ✭✭blueshade


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    They would be Nigerians. He's talking on Irish people whose family line comes from Nigeria. You know not every Irish family evolved in Ireland from monkeys?

    You mean Anchor Babies? You see we had a referendum on that and people voted overwhelmingly to put an end to it. We have no direct flights with Nigeria, every Nigerian who got on a flight to come to Ireland and claim asylum broke the law and they are nothing but illegal economic migrants playing the asylum system. My town has always had some genuine refugees for over 30 years, those people were welcomed and integrated well and are an asset to the community. On the other hand at least 90% of the Africans and Muslims in my town are bogus migrants posing as asylum seekers and they aren't welcome not because of their religion or colour but because they are liars and bogus migrants.


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  • #52
    chicorytip
    Registered Users Posts: 4,084 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    blueshade wrote: »
    The Poles work the Nigerians don't.
    On what evidence does Grealish base his claim? It would be a fair point to make if all of this money had been amassed from criminal activity. Foreigners living and working in Ireland still represent a small percentage of the overall population and the vast majority are law abiding.


  • #53
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    blueshade wrote: »
    You mean Anchor Babies? You see we had a referendum on that and people voted overwhelmingly to put an end to it. We have no direct flights with Nigeria, every Nigerian who got on a flight to come to Ireland and claim asylum broke the law and they are nothing but illegal economic migrants playing the asylum system. My town has always had some genuine refugees for over 30 years, those people were welcomed and integrated well and are an asset to the community. On the other hand at least 90% of the Africans and Muslims in my town are bogus migrants posing as asylum seekers and they aren't welcome not because of their religion or colour but because they are liars and bogus migrants.

    Would you consider yourself an Anchor baby? Again, he was talking about Irish people, with Nigerian family background. You are fudging to try make it about illegal or fake immigrants.
    We have Italian Irish, Chinese Irish and more Nigerian Irish. That's the way things have always been. My ancestors came here in long boats to rob yis blind and decided to hang around until they invented the welfare state ;)


  • #54
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    He's probably just trying to pull a Casey and get the dim witted and hateful in tow. Not necessarily racist.

    You’re not concerned at all about this colossal amount of money not being spent here?


  • #55
    Chiparus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    More nigerians less knackers please - by knackers I mean -white trash types, like that taxi driver that was ripping off people with his remote control.


  • #56
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    chicorytip wrote: »
    On what evidence does Grealish base his claim? It would be a fair point to make if all of this money had been amassed from criminal activity. Foreigners living and working in Ireland still represent a small percentage of the overall population and the vast majority are law abiding.

    He has no evidence.

    He’s a ‘wanker whipping up fear’, as our President once so eloquently said.

    He saw what being a generalising racist did to Peter Casey and is appealing to that vote, and the same morons who fell for it when Casey was doing it are falling for it again.


  • #57
    Red_Wake
    Registered Users Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    Old Noel gonna top the poll.


  • #58
    Dante7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Link?

    "The employment rate for African immigrants, at 45pc, is also significantly lower than the rates for Irish nationals (66pc) and non-Irish nationals (70pc)"

    https://extra.ie/2018/11/07/business/irish/unemployment-rate-higher-african-migrants

    So, where's all the money coming from?


  • #59
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Beta Ray Bill wrote: »
    According to 2014 figures in the Irish Times:
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/almost-one-in-eight-living-in-ireland-hail-from-abroad-1.2471339

    Poles 118,042
    British 115,658
    Lithuanians 35,617
    Latvians 20,086
    Nigerians 19,727

    Unusually, the CSO figures put less than 10,000 Nigerian people in Ireland in 2016.
    https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp7md/p7md/p7anii/

    Regardless of either of the above, the questions till remains.
    Why is a so much going to France?
    A lot of French only stay for 2-3 years and then a new batch come in. If in an MNC they are likely to be in the higher earning brackets, so potentially higher remittances.


  • #60
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    splinter65 wrote: »
    You’re not concerned at all about this colossal amount of money not being spent here?

    I'm more concerned about the colossal amount of money being spent here.
    We give money away to folk outside Ireland. Always have. If we want to curtail that that's fine. Singling out people is where you start entering dodgy territory IMO.


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  • #61
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Dante7 wrote: »
    "The employment rate for African immigrants, at 45pc, is also significantly lower than the rates for Irish nationals (66pc) and non-Irish nationals (70pc)"

    https://extra.ie/2018/11/07/business/irish/unemployment-rate-higher-african-migrants

    So, where's all the money coming from?

    So you're guessing more Poles work and that Nigerians don't work?


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