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11-07-2019, 11:24   #16
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Like war? Patient become collateral damage?
Pretty much yes. The individual can sometimes become something of a background player.
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13-07-2019, 00:15   #17
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Pretty much yes. The individual can sometimes become something of a background player.
More so. Approaching 2020.
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More so. Approaching 2020.
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Sad commentary.
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Sad commentary.
We haven't heard the last of it, not by a long shot. Although an issue such as this is a slow burner (just from observation) and it won't ever be any kind of massive social movement for obvious reasons.
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A dog is suffering from an untreatable condition which reduces its quality life to all but zero: euthanise.

A human is suffering from a similar condition: nah sorry mate, gotta postpone your misery because of.. .. .. reasons, ya know?



Oh we are a bright lot aren't we.
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A dog is suffering from an untreatable condition which reduces its quality life to all but zero: euthanise.

A human is suffering from a similar condition: nah sorry mate, gotta postpone your misery because of.. .. .. reasons, ya know?



Oh we are a bright lot aren't we.
It is a delicate topic for sure. But slowly moves are being made to introduce it it the USA, but I think it could be a while before it would be considered on these shores.
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It is a delicate topic for sure. But slowly moves are being made to introduce it it the USA, but I think it could be a while before it would be considered on these shores.
State of Oregon. The Death with Dignity Act (DWDA).
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State of Oregon. The Death with Dignity Act (DWDA).
A good start!
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It is a delicate topic for sure. But slowly moves are being made to introduce it it the USA, but I think it could be a while before it would be considered on these shores.
Divorce, equal marriage and abortion have all been approved by referrendum, assisted suicide, for me, is the last great reform needed to truly become a civilised society and a real republic.
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Divorce, equal marriage and abortion have all been approved by referrendum, assisted suicide, for me, is the last great reform needed to truly become a civilised society and a real republic.
There's religious opposition to assisted suicide. Difficult to overcome for those interested in this.
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There's religious opposition to assisted suicide. Difficult to overcome for those interested in this.
There was significant religious opposition to divorce, equal marriage and particularly abortion.

My view is that religious opposition to Assisted Suicide, which would be an act of kindness to assuage intolerable pain and suffering and thus allow people of clear mind some dignity in death, would be far less than it was for abortion once the merits of such a change were presented in a clear fact based manner.

Archbishop Desmond Tutu is a good example of how caring rather than fundamentalist christian's can see beyond the black and white of simplistic commandments to see how allowing terminally ill people some comfort at the end of their life can actually be the (modern) christian thing to do.

Terminally ill people ‘should have right to choose a dignified assisted death’, writes archbishop on his 85th birthday.
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In the States today there are exceptions like Oregon. It will take decades for all 50.
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https://www.thejournal.ie/dutch-doct...05617-Sep2019/

Very interesting development. Of course Euthanasia already legal in Netherlands but in ways, a welcome development. The abuse aspect of such cases (not in this case but the potential for abuse) is however still a factor
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The abuse aspect of such cases (not in this case but the potential for abuse) is however still a factor
Questions how it should be regulated if allowed.
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