View Poll Results: Is Northern Ireland culturally Scottish or Irish? | |||
Culturally Scottish |
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6 | 6.32% |
Culturally Irish |
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21 | 22.11% |
50/50: Split between Unionists and Nationalists |
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16 | 16.84% |
All three are culturally British |
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5 | 5.26% |
All three are culturally Celtic/Gaelic |
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5 | 5.26% |
Unionist culture is distinct from the rest of Scotland |
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2 | 2.11% |
Nationalist culture is distinct from the rest of Ireland |
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4 | 4.21% |
Northern Ireland has its own distinct culture |
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20 | 21.05% |
Why did you post this? Are you trying to start a fight?! |
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5 | 5.26% |
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11 | 11.58% |
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06-04-2017, 18:18 | #31 |
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But again as l said the dublin accent is more unique and no one would consider them different than the rest of ireland . The cork and galway accent are probably the original accents spoken here before english and scottish plantations/invasion .
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06-04-2017, 19:16 | #32 |
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If the original language of Dublin was Norse, and there were other languages along the east coast, then you would expect different regions to have different accents when speaking modern English.
I don't think there is any one "original" Irish accent. Also bear in mind that the "original" inhabitants of Ireland didn't speak Irish anyway. If you could travel back in time to when Newgrange was in its heyday, there would be no point trying to communicate with the locals as gaeilge. They would consider that to be a foreign language. They might guess (correctly) that it was some sort of central european celtic language. Last edited by recedite; 06-04-2017 at 19:21. |
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08-04-2017, 00:46 | #33 | |
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Even the neolithic and mesolithic people are not the original people of this island . What l meant was cork and galway accent are the orginal geal accents on this island before the scots english norse & normans .Yola language is interesting alright . My point is theres nothing that makes The so called northern irish unique enough to be considered their own thing . Not along enough history to develop a different culture,most northern irish culture republican and even loyalist cultures are just irish stuff repackaged . For example the red hand the loyalist seem to love is ironically an ancient irish symbol that existed long before they did . What really defines the northern irish and sets them apart from the rest of ireland ? Most of the irish in northern ireland have family across the border and are near culturally identical if not completely. The undemocratic partition of that part of Ireland was/is gross & silly . The existence of the northern irish is simply modern politics. Last edited by Fighting leprechaun 20; 08-04-2017 at 00:53. |
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08-04-2017, 17:23 | #35 | |
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With Newgrange and Tara both situated in the general area, there must have been a well established community around there during Roman times, but probably not all living in a town. So the "trading hub" could have been anywhere. |
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10-04-2017, 03:26 | #36 | |
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Also l never claimed people from ulster were scottish so l dont know why you are asking me that . |
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10-04-2017, 03:30 | #37 | |
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Also while we are on the topic is there any evidence newgrange was still actively being used during 100AD? Surely it was abounded and covered in rush grass and dirt . At any rate dublin existed before the vikings just not in its current state of course . Interesting theory is that dublin merged with the irish settlement of Áth Cliath . The name of dublin does not appear to be of norse origin dubh meaning black (so dublin is black pool) it seems to have old irish roots in its terminology. Last edited by Fighting leprechaun 20; 10-04-2017 at 03:54. |
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10-04-2017, 04:21 | #39 |
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The pale is the only part of ireland the english controlled and even there they didnt have full grasp of power on the region . Surnames are not great indicators of anything tbh they also are probably norman influenced not english . Many normans them selfs became more irish than even the irish . Yes the british(english) left negative political marks on ireland but idk about the rest .
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Controlled all Four Cities Most of them Still Look More English Today Than Irish . Galway is the Only Irish City that Looks More Irish . |
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10-04-2017, 04:42 | #41 |
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Like Limerick City for One Example 1194 the English Captured Limerick You Have King Johns Castle St Mary Cathedral English Settlers Came To Limerick City you have Kings Island In English Town New town Perry 1760 that is all of Limerick IS English that Just One of the Cities.
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So the new town would be founded at a place of strategic importance to them, ie a safe harbour or river estuary suitable for docking longships. Whereas any existing inhabitants might have been just cattle farming in the area, and would probably have moved on. |
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