FG to just do nothing for the next 5 years.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Me and 56% of the electorate that didn't vote for FF or FG

OK so.

Lets make that happen, can't be that hard with those numbers can it?

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

OK so.

Lets make that happen, can't be that hard with those numbers can it?

Where's the FG/FF government JJ? You counting chickens again?

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Dunno.

But those numbers you gave look like a great chance to form a government that isn't FG/FF.

Wonder what's holding them up?

Too many big mouths who dont want to give up public profile.
Imagine McDonald, Rich Boy, Paul Murphy trying to come to an agreement about what biscuits they wouId for coffee break. They could for a Marxist Trotskyist Slabist coalition until they started eliminating each other.
At least those other heroes of the Left, Wallace and Daly, had the cop on to go and get their heads into the biggertroughin Brussels

RandomViewer wrote: »

See big thick Phil thinking of heading to the WTO, space for Varadker in Brussells?

Big thick Phil?
Not so thick is he.

Interesting article in the Irish Times today

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/patience-wearing-thin-as-three-parties-crawl-towards-a-government-1.4266008

A draft agreement was hoped for by this weekend, but that will not happen. Maybe next week, some now suggest. Others wonder if the middle of June – or even later in the month – is not more realistic.

There, a topic, if agreed, is signed off. Difficulties, if there are some, are worked through by party deputy leaders: Simon Coveney for Fine Gael, Dara Calleary for Fianna Fáil, and the Greens’ Catherine Martin.

Both the Greens and Fine Gael say that Fianna Fáil’s impatience to conclude a deal at any price is jarring

If they fail, the issue is escalated to the party leaders. However, some issues take the short route, going directly to Micheál Martin, Leo Varadkar and Eamon Ryan. Too many things are being pushed upstairs, some fear.

The old truism of Irish politics, as recounted by numerous smaller parties and Independents with experience of coalition negotiations past – that Fianna Fáil easily accepts policy demands, but Fine Gael digs in – is proving true again.

Fine Gaelers complain that Fianna Fáil is too ready to bow to the Greens; Greens say that Fine Gael, with Coveney to the fore, are unwilling to bend, and, by and large, that dealings with Fianna Fáil are unproblematic.

Basically it goes on to show that there is considerably more infighting going on than is released to the media, that FF seem to be so eager for an agreement that they will agree with virtually anything the Greens demand, but FG seem to be digging their heels in on every issue that is related to the economy or requires spending.

Pat Leahy and Fiach Kelly go on to suggest that although it likely that an agreement will finally be arrived at although one that is very much delayed, and this now might not be until the end of June.

The question is is will the party members of all three parties actually vote for an agreement in a postal vote where it seems there appears to be major disagreement in some places.

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Opinion poll expected tomorrow morning in the business post.

Apart from the usual questions, it will also ask the public to rate each party's response to Covid.

Predictions?

FF down more, 10-11%?.

Bishop of hope wrote: »

You don't like Phil do you:)?

Let's put it like this, if I was drowning in quicksand and the unlikely event that it offered to save me, I'd prefer to drown than be beholden to something like that

The only thing Fine Gael are going to accomplish is a merger with whatever rump Fianna Fail emerges after Michéal Martin finally stops being party leader.

efanton wrote: »

Was that a serious question?


Even TD's from his own party disliked the man, and for good reason too. He would sell his soul for self advancement.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/hogans-eu-job-in-jeopardy-as-fg-fears-beef-deal-fallout-38280905.html

I thought the smiley face might give it away.

Two polls from 2 different polling companies saying the same thing.

'We want FG and SF in government and FF can sling their hook'.

With FF being so unpopular and the 'leaders' in the new government can a government survive for 5 years?

Having Micheal as Taoiseach would be laughable at this stage. He has no mandate

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

This is a poll. A mandate is derived from election results.

I think they have to take notice of two different polls from two different companies, saying the exact same thing about all of them Colonel. They might not say it...but it will be having an impact.

Internal dissent in FF will get bolder and louder. McMurphy might not be too far off the money...popcorn time!

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

The bile meter is high these days?

Could be the heat.

Visited that Twitter cesspit this morning, Brendan. The shinnerbots; hammer and sickle crowd, Gemma O’Doherty sorts are all very angry.

This opinion poll seems to have riled them all up.

Very entertaining to read. So much anger. What a wasteful emotion.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Link?

www.twitter.com

Be carful Francis. You mightn’t get any sleep at all if you discover the old twitter machine...,