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    #7352
    Neil3030
    Registered Users Posts: 16,981 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Zzippy wrote: »
    I'm loving the grizzly updates. Are any bookies offering odds? I feel like we have an inside track with Neil...

    Would Paddy Power get a price back to you before tomorrow?

    Would be very surprised if Holly doesn't win...


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    #7353
    Neil3030
    Registered Users Posts: 16,981 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    Happy Fay Bear Tuesday to you and yours.

    Holly is currently destroying Lefty in the grand finale.

    I'm conflicted. Lefty was my second pick behind 747. Hhas good size, very solid build. The belly flop was also epic.

    That said, even Holly's ears are cubby, so you really can't knock that sort of commitment.


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    #7354
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I knew bears hibernated but never fully thought about it. I didn't realise they have such an extreme weight gain in advance of their slumber. It's obvious now that I see it.


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    #7355
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Craft beer pub recommendations in London please! Something similar to The Rake in Borough Market would be ideal.


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    #7356
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 5,960 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Craft beer pub recommendations in London please! Something similar to The Rake in Borough Market would be ideal.

    The Walkabout. Any Walkabout.


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    #7357
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Yeah_Right wrote: »
    The Walkabout. Any Walkabout.

    There doesn't seem to be any around the city centre? The closest is Watford.


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    #7358
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    There doesn't seem to be any around the city centre? The closest is Watford.

    There definitely was one on the river for years, near South Bank I think. But don't ever go there! :pac:

    There are loads and loads, just depends what part of the city you're in


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    #7359
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 5,960 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    There doesn't seem to be any around the city centre? The closest is Watford.

    Shebu? Clapham?


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    #7360
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    If you ever need to go to the bathroom whilst cutting chillies, wash your hands before you go.


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    #7361
    part time punk
    Registered Users Posts: 456 ✭✭part time punk


    Deleted User wrote: »
    If you ever need to go to the bathroom whilst cutting chillies, wash your hands before you go.

    Ouch. Yoghurt is apparently, not a cure, but some relief


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    #7362
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    part time punk wrote: »
    Ouch. Yoghurt is apparently, not a cure, but some relief

    I'm toughing it out.

    It's gone from unpleasant stinging through to 'uncomfortable', but warm.

    There might be hope for this yet.


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    #7363
    Dave_The_Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's gone from unpleasant stinging through to 'uncomfortable', but warm.

    Perfect stage for a bit of ... self pleasure. I'm told.


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    #7364
    DGRulz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭DGRulz


    Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »
    Perfect stage for a bit of ... self pleasure. I'm told.

    I'm told it's called the Mt. Vesuvius.


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    #7365
    Dave_The_Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭Dave_The_Sheep


    DGRulz wrote: »
    I'm told it's called the Mt. Vesuvius.

    You don't want to admit too much knowledge of it, do you?


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    #7366
    mfceiling
    Registered Users Posts: 12,774 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    part time punk wrote: »
    Ouch. Yoghurt is apparently, not a cure, but some relief

    Take it out of the pot first.


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    #7367
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,605 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Take it out of the pot first.

    Do you not just dip the tip, seal it back up and put it back in the fridge?


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    #7368
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,365 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Two hour marathon, insane.

    And he looked fresh as a daisy at the finish, not a drop of sweat ffs. :rolleyes:


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    #7369
    joseywhales
    Registered Users Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    I don't believe athletics or cycling anymore, unless they actually segregate the athletes for at least a year before competition and inspect everything that gets consumed.


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    #7370
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,288 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I don’t even overly care whether he’s doping (hopefully he isn’t obviously). That is still an absolutely bonkers run.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Podge_irl wrote: »
    I don’t even overly care whether he’s doping (hopefully he isn’t obviously). That is still an absolutely bonkers run.

    It's an incredible feat, but given how many of the low 2 hour club are subsequently done for EPO I have virtually no faith that this wasn't a performance based on an incredibly sophisticated doping programme. The training required to be able to turnover like this is not sustainable without medical assistance in my opinion.

    Still though, sub 2 hours for the marathon is hard to fathom. Low 14 minutes for the 5k 8 times in a row. It's mind bending.

    Think of the fittest person you know. They probably couldn't last 1km at that pace. If you happen to know a few competitive runners they might last 3km just about. People on the fringe of International level are going to struggle beyond 5k.

    It really is hard to describe just how fast he was running for 26 miles.

    But still it's impossible to share in the enjoyment of the achievement because it most likely was made possible in a lab.


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    #7372
    mfceiling
    Registered Users Posts: 12,774 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    [Deleted User] wrote: »

    Still though, sub 2 hours for the marathon is hard to fathom. Low 14 minutes for the 5k 8 times in a row. It's mind bending.

    Running the 100 metres in 17 seconds 422 times in a row.

    Really?


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    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's an incredible feat, but given how many of the low 2 hour club are subsequently done for EPO I have virtually no faith that this wasn't a performance based on an incredibly sophisticated doping programme. The training required to be able to turnover like this is not sustainable without medical assistance in my opinion.

    Still though, sub 2 hours for the marathon is hard to fathom. Low 14 minutes for the 5k 8 times in a row. It's mind bending.

    Think of the fittest person you know. They probably couldn't last 1km at that pace. If you happen to know a few competitive runners they might last 3km just about. People on the fringe of International level are going to struggle beyond 5k.

    It really is hard to describe just how fast he was running for 26 miles.

    But still it's impossible to share in the enjoyment of the achievement because it most likely was made possible in a lab.

    Can doping really have that much impact. Obviously it can improve performance or people wouldn’t do it, but to that degree?

    The comparison I saw was running on a treadmill set at 21 for two hours, that’s insane. Even with drugs that’s just completely insane that the human body can withstand that sort of pace. I’d be dying after 30 seconds (probably literally since the heart attack).


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    #7374
    ClanofLams
    Registered Users Posts: 4,210 ✭✭✭ClanofLams


    stephen_n wrote: »
    Can doping really have that much impact. Obviously it can improve performance or people wouldn’t do it, but to that degree?

    The comparison I saw was running on a treadmill set at 21 for two hours, that’s insane. Even with drugs that’s just completely insane that the human body can withstand that sort of pace. I’d be dying after 30 seconds (probably literally since the heart attack).

    Don’t have any expertise in the area but would think it can have a fairly massive impact. Look at Michelle Smith, from a virtual nobody who was 40th in the world to an Olympic superstar who won three gold and bronze.


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    [Deleted User]
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    mfceiling wrote: »
    Running the 100 metres in 17 seconds 422 times in a row.

    Really?

    For EPO it's a 3 - 10% improvement.

    So a 15 min 5k runner is pushing for Olympic qualification as a 13.30 5k runner after doping.

    There are other strength building steroids on top of that. It's a significant performance increase.


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    #7376
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,365 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    It's like 21k an hour for 2 hours.

    Which is pretty much a speed that a lot of amateur distance cyclists will go at.


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    #7377
    joseywhales
    Registered Users Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Given the influence that superstar drug cheats have on young athletes, they are partially responsible for the deaths resulting from doping in young people and retired athletes, whatever about the fairness of the competition. I am not in favour of convictions for drug use generally but for high profile figures like Lance Armstrong or Salazar(if he is convicted) they should receive a custodial sentence, the damage they cause society and sport is too much.


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    #7378
    joseywhales
    Registered Users Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    And as for combat sports, they should be up on charges of battery and gbh if they compete while doping as if it is not a sanctioned competition, since they broke the rules of the competition


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    #7379
    dregin
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    QF beers happening??


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    #7380
    shootermacg
    Registered Users Posts: 4,833 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    What I love about the drug testing now is, they store samples for when the testing catches up with the doping. I look forward to seeing these dopers having their medals revoked.


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    #7381
    Neil3030
    Registered Users Posts: 16,981 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    I don't know jack about long distance running, but I've never seen a more muscular marathon specialist.


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