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15-06-2019, 17:46   #61
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Yeh.

1) they aren’t. It’s a pretty crap false flag.
2) any war will cripple oil trade in the strait of Hormuz.
1) do you have intelligence that says different or was it on a YouTube video?
2) in the short term possibly. But again for the greater good
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1) do you have intelligence that says different or was it on a YouTube video?
2) in the short term possibly. But again for the greater good
1) the crap YouTube video was in fact from the US. I’m not believing crap YouTube videos. You are.
2) it would be fairly long term. Iran isn’t easily invaded and as long as it continues to fight it can destabilise shipping.
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1) the crap YouTube video was in fact from the US. I’m not believing crap YouTube videos. You are.
2) it would be fairly long term. Iran isn’t easily invaded and as long as it continues to fight it can destabilise shipping.
So what do you believe?
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So what do you believe?
Not a word the yanks/brits say anyway
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So what do you believe?
I believe it’s either a false flag by the US or it’s allies, or the allies (Saudi) are misleading the US.

Iran has no reason to do this. And the original story has been mostly debunked anyway.
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I believe it’s either a false flag by the US or it’s allies, or the allies (Saudi) are misleading the US.

Iran has no reason to do this. And the original story has been mostly debunked anyway.
Your conclusion is definitely possible. Nonetheless I wouldn't be against the Us enforcing a regime change to a party more favourable to Western interests. Control of the oil supply will become more and more important going forward.
I would prefer an American led global economy than a Chinese.
The balance may eventually shift.
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Your conclusion is definitely possible. Nonetheless I wouldn't be against the Us enforcing a regime change to a party more favourable to Western interests
This will.just lead to civil war as accusations of it being a puppet government would be impossible to counter?
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Bolton has never seen a war he did not like.

Maybe America are telling the truth about this incident, but given their history of telling lies to advance their geo political aim over the years , i doubt it.
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This will.just lead to civil war as accusations of it being a puppet government would be impossible to counter?
The American war hawks are capable of anything.

Remember this classic.
https://www-independent-co-uk.cdn.am...r-9551174.html
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Your conclusion is definitely possible. Nonetheless I wouldn't be against the Us enforcing a regime change to a party more favourable to Western interests. Control of the oil supply will become more and more important going forward.
I would prefer an American led global economy than a Chinese.
The balance may eventually shift.
You haven’t been paying attention if you think that American led wars in the Middle East have promoted stability in any way, shape or form.
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He probably learned from Obama's mistakes in that department so.
Trumps has more drone strikes under his belt that his predecessor.

No idea where this notion comes from that he is moderate or interested in stopping the us actions abroad.

He loves the thrill of it and bragging about it afterwards
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The only thing you need to know about Trump is this: the only reason he has not been indicted, is because he is the President. if he loses the election in 2020, he will be arrested and charged and will die in jail, just like his campaign adviser Paul Manafort.

Trump knows this.

What you will see over the next 18 months will be a barrage of lies, criminality and the worst of human life. An invasion of Iran is a certainty. The next 18 months is going to be horrific for the US, and possibly all of us. The only hope we have is that he is impeached by his own colleagues in the Republican Party. He has already said he won't stand down, as Nixon did, so we are in for a very rough ride. He is already "wagging the dog" in Iran, and invasion seems a certainty and will result in thousands of civilian deaths.

He may be a fat orange clown, but we are in for a hellish 18 months. 18 months that all Americans should remember next time they go to a polling booth.

Not much consolation for the Iranian family, dropping their children to school, before the US bombs begin to fall on them to keep Trump out of jail.

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And the original story has been mostly debunked anyway.
Which part was debunked? There were 4 ships attacked in that area and in all cases they were attacked for effect rather than to sink them.
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You haven’t been paying attention if you think that American led wars in the Middle East have promoted stability in any way, shape or form.
Iraq's oil fields were opened up to American companies who now control many of them.
Mission accomplished.

Destabilising the region is only collateral damage. Not important
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Oil is central to Iraq's present and future. It accounts for 99% of all government revenue. Along with existing reserves of 143 billion barrels (5th in the world) it is estimated there are 50 to 200 billion barrels yet to be discovered making it the largest unexplored market in the world.

And with a pro American government in place that oil is as good as in Us hands.

Iran next
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