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11-06-2019, 00:09   #16
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Your very naive if you think likes of priests/cardinals etc dont have sex
Well they clearly are, because that would be a sin. Lying about it would be another sin.......
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It's simply not possible to change gender anyway, It's cosmetic only. Maybe science will eventually come up with a way, but thats many years away at least. But I srtopped listening to what the church had to say in primary school
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I think from day 1 babies have their wires wired.
If they are heterosexual, LGBT, kleptomaniac, bipolar or normal that will be their path in life.
I don't think the Catholic Church can change that.
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I agree with a lot of what was written in this, but they made a huge mistake by trying to deny the existence of Intersex people. Science was actually with them up until that point.
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Anyone that pays any attention to this bunch are fools.
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11-06-2019, 00:38   #21
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Anyone that pays any attention to this bunch are fools.
Good man Lucifer.
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My friends call me Lou. Well, if I had any. They might. Probably not though .
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What can you say anymore about the RCC. They are just determined to destroy themselves from the inside. Remember they control our schools.

The Vatican has issued an official document rejecting the idea that people can choose or change their genders and insisting on the sexual “complementarity” of men and women to make babies.
Firstly the Catholic Church, of which I am not a member, is hardly going to change its views to conform to every crazy fad. Secondly the trans stuff is often insane.
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You’re also overlooking the fact that many more people who aren’t religious in the slightest, will argue against the idea that people can change their gender, and their disagreement with the idea has it’s foundations in science and politics as opposed to religion. My point is that people don’t have to be followers of any religion to be just as likely to ostracise people who don’t share their beliefs.
A science denier speaks.

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So we're relying on the RCC to state the bleeding obvious now?
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I agree with a lot of what was written in this, but they made a huge mistake by trying to deny the existence of Intersex people. Science was actually with them up until that point.
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Wow I agree with the church, that's a first.

Transgender is a mental illness and those people need help/support, we should not be denying biology just to not offend anyone.
Ooh look the armchair experts to deny trans people their existence! Hallelujah!
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A science denier speaks.

Oh do me a favour, you’re just boring now
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Oh do me a favour, you’re just boring now
Poor you, we had this conversation before where you denied the opinion of thousands of scientists. Must be awfully embarrassing for you!
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Ooh look the armchair experts to deny trans people their existence! Hallelujah!
We are all armchair experts here I would assume. There’s no science to transgenderism. It’s a ideology formed in the fever swamps of American identity politics, driven by American cultural imperialism and corporate interests.

It’s also self contradictory. If gender is a social construct then that means that it is something imposed on people by society, rather than being inate or biological.

A person with a vagina is treated as a gendered woman and thus acts like a woman. A person with a penis is treated as a man and thus acts like a man.

This is basically gender theory. However trans people manage to both overcome biological reality and the social construction of gender and get to decide their gender, which should be impossible for something that is either biological or socially decided.

Where this “real gender” comes from is something not explained, since it’s not biological. Must be a soul.
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Wow I agree with the church, that's a first.

Transgender is a mental illness and those people need help/support, we should not be denying biology just to not offend anyone.
If it were a mental illness though, why isn't it just treated as a mental illness? It is initially (which I think it should be, to eliminate the possibility) but when that avenue is explored, things are taken to the next stage for good reason.
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We are all armchair experts here I would assume. There’s no science to transgenderism. It’s a ideology formed in the fever swamps of American identity politics, driven by American cultural imperialism and corporate interests.
No, people have changed sex since the 1950's, it's nothing new. And it's nothing about imported American identity crap.

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It’s also self contradictory. If gender is a social construct then that means that it is something imposed on people by society, rather than being inate or biological.

A person with a vagina is treated as a gendered woman and thus acts like a woman. A person with a penis is treated as a man and thus acts like a man.

This is basically gender theory. However trans people manage to both overcome biological reality and the social construction of gender and get to decide their gender, which should be impossible for something that is either biological or socially decided.

Where this “real gender” comes from is something not explained, since it’s not biological. Must be a soul.
What? Their brains mismatch the body to put it simply, hence they change sex. There is nothing new about this as people have changed sex since the 1950's, nearly 70 years now.
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Poor you, we had this conversation before where you denied the opinion of thousands of scientists. Must be awfully embarrassing for you!

I didn’t deny the opinion of thousands of scientists at all. I disagreed with your interpretation of their opinions. They’re two very different things. Scientists disagree on fundamental concepts within their fields of expertise all the time and it’s not embarrassing for anyone, it’s how people gain knowledge and understanding of our world - through dialogue and discussion and the development of ideas. Quite the opposite of what you try to do by attempting to shut down anyone’s opinions you disagree with. Fortunately you just don’t have the kind of power it takes to dictate what other people should think for themselves.
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