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15-06-2019, 22:34   #781
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Does having an Allied Irish over lezzer porn count?
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15-06-2019, 22:35   #782
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Just to balance things up...an interesting article from the UK on discrimination against hetrosexual couples.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/supreme-court-victory-for-heterosexual-couple-in-civil-partnership-fight-851422.html
Whatabout whataboutery
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15-06-2019, 22:37   #783
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To be clear and to not be misrepresented;

I believe there is no difference between heterosexuals and homosexuals apart from what they get up to in the bedroom.

I don't feel a need to celebrate their sexuality as it is a non issue to me.

I think being proud of your sexuality is a little odd but I understand that after years of oppression, you would want to celebrate it, therefore the pride festival, although something I wouldn't attend, is fair enough.

People get attacked for all kinds of reasons. It's abhorrent that a gay person would be attacked for being gay. It's equally abhorrent for someone to be attacked for the color of their skin/hair or their weight or their sight.

Bad people will hurt other people regardless and use hurtful names. It doesn't make it right, but it doesn't mean you are a perpetual victim.

I have been attacked unprovoked on countless times and had many insults and slurs thrown at me while I got beaten. One one occasion, I was nearly beaten to death. It's a horrible and frightening scenario and I genuinely feel for those who are in constant fear of it.

But when I am told that I am homophobic for refusing point blank to accept that gay people are victims and saying that this country offers more protections than most for these people then I get a little pissed off.

I'm not homophobic, I treat gay people as equals, not some precious and brave subsection of culture.

Most of the gay people I know appreciate that. Those who don't can continue to be victims.
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15-06-2019, 22:37   #784
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Please fvck all the way off, anyone and everyone using this as grounds for debate. You look like an idiot when you do it and it’s just so transparent it’s pathetic
Woah woah woah. Trans Parents are people too pal.
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15-06-2019, 22:38   #785
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As I said, time for you to stop throwing the accusations when someone disagrees with you.

Just to balance things up...an interesting article from the UK on discrimination against hetrosexual couples.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/su...ht-851422.html
Gays did not discriminate against that couple, it was other heterosexuals who set the law. Your anger is misdirected, that case was nothing to do with homosexuals at all, they do not set the laws. Heterosexuals set the laws for everyone!!
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Gays did not discriminate against that couple, it was other heterosexuals who set the law. Your anger is misdirected, that case was nothing to do with homosexuals at all, they do not set the laws. Heterosexuals set the laws for everyone!!
The voting citizens of a country set the laws not just one section of that group
Everyone is on about marriage equality for homosexuals. This was a case of marriage inequality for hetrosexuals. So much for being equal !
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15-06-2019, 22:54   #787
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The voting citizens of a country set the laws not just one section of that group
Everyone is on about marriage equality for homosexuals. This was a case of marriage inequality for hetrosexuals. So much for being equal !
Don't think you understand do you?

The vast majority of the country's population is heterosexual hence those elected represent heterosexual viewpoints. Those in power are vastly populated by heterosexuals, they set the laws hence they when setting that law in the UK "forgot" about civil marriage for heterosexuals. Nothing to do with homosexuals at all despite your stretch of the imagination.
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16-06-2019, 00:21   #788
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Talking of absurd comments, equating Halloween and hetrosexuals with pride is just weird.

You don't see hetrosexuals having parades declaring their hetrosexuality.

If homosexuals want to be equal its time to behave as though you are instead of having a declaration of how different you are.

Hetrosexual couples get beaten up to. Time to grow up boys and girls. Play with the grown ups and stop throwing your toys out of the pram with accusations when someone disagrees with you.
You don't get it at all. I was joking about halloween because of the comments about ass less chaps and gays expressing themselves by wearing sexy costumes in the street, halloween is a prime example of heteros wearing sexy costumes in the streets.
Gay pride is a response to being shamed. People don't march in pride parades because being queer all by itself is an accomplishment, what people take pride in is what they've managed to do about their queerness despite the shame, hostility, violence, the judgement (see this thread for details), the religious condemnation. Real violence is done to queer people by their families, churches, governments, we have been/are still told that fact about us is sick and wrong and not something we should ever tell anyone about ever and yet we manage to find each other and we manage to find it within ourselves to reject the shame and the fear and despite violence live openly, proud of the history for example proud of people who fought for gay marriage in Ireland and legalisation of homosexuality in very recent times and to highlight oppression in other countries. Marching for many signifies how far we've come and we march in solidarity in a sense to make our own contribution. This year is also the 50th anniversary of the stonewall riots which marked one of the most successful movements for social justice in the last 100 years. That is worth marking. I'm sorry you don't get it and maybe that's because of the recent co-opting of pride by corporations I don't know but pride is much more than just a parade there is a lot going on in terms of events and a history behind it.
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16-06-2019, 00:25   #789
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I liked it when straight people were terrified of gay events.
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Possibly?

Least he has the guts to protest against the gays to their faces rather than the insipid and relentlessly stupid keyboard warrior nonsense we see on here.

‘I have no problem with the gays BUT’

Please fvck all the way off, anyone and everyone using this as grounds for debate. You look like an idiot when you do it and it’s just so transparent it’s pathetic
So brave...
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So brave...
Too right. Better to be brave than beaten to a pulp for being gay. (Yes it still happens in this country)
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16-06-2019, 01:06   #792
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My only issue with Pride is that it should be more solidly political. I think there's been a wishy-washy commercialisation of what is still very much a live civil rights movement. It's been morphed into commercialised Mardi gras.

I'm not saying it can't be fun, but the serious message is being lost to many the more commercialised that the festival gets.

I'm fine with people being allies and companies being supportive but when you've an LGBT sandwich in M&S donating pennies to a charity and many companies just throwing an old rainbow flag in absolutely anything and everything without any commitment to anything at all you'd start to wonder about what's going on. That flag means something. It's not Christmas wrapping paper.

Yeah, things have finally radically improved in Ireland but you still have some issues and residues of homophobic stuff going on and globally LGBT rights aren't great at all and are even rolling backwards in places like the US. Even up North the whole marriage equality issue hasn't been processed at all.

I'm all for positive celebration but I don't think big commercial Pride festivals in places like Ireland are doing nearly enough to really hammer home those issues.

Pride has to be a serious event at its core or it just turns into nothing more than a street festival.

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What about a private inner pride to complement the public outer pride... or is that just stupid?
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Pride!!! What for. Fu5k off.
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What about a private inner pride to complement the public outer pride... or is that just stupid?
Ye wha?
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