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21-01-2018, 16:06   #61
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"What gives you the right to say that?"

"I'm a clinical psychologist"
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21-01-2018, 16:14   #62
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"What gives you the right to say that?"

"I'm a clinical psychologist"
I loved the immediate powerful calmness in that moment. It was beautiful.
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She did not even listen to what he was saying and heard only what she thought she heard. Also looks like she just read a couple of quotes from his book put together by researchers as well. She has no deep understanding of what he is saying. And she resorted to emotion rather than logic and facts.

She was completely destroyed on all facets of her arguments and counter arguments although I am sure she thinks she "won" the debate.

And lumping him in to the Alt-Right was disgraceful and intellectually dishonest. A complete ad-hominem side-swipe.

She really should watch the TED talk by Cassie Jaye where Jaye admitted that when she was conducting interviews with MRAs that she would be hearing them talk but would not be listening to what they were saying and "making up" what they really meant.
Exactly, sad part is she probably does think this and wont venture outside her own bubble - dismissing it all (including Jayes TED talk) as alt right fascist propaganda nonsense
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Wow that was painful to watch.
I've had similar discussions with people online and in real life.
The kind of person who's never had their ideas challenged, they just surround themselves with opinions that confirm their own.
And then one day they talk to someone with a contradictory opinion and it's like their whole world just falls apart.
It really shows the interviewer and Channel 4 in a bad light.
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21-01-2018, 16:41   #65
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As Been Sharpiro rightly says, if you call yourself a a man when you are clearly a woman or vice versa that's fine. But telling me that I have to do the same is wrong.(not verbatim)

If we all just follow along like sheep in this situation what we will have is a butt load of millennials constantly flip flopping genders for likes on social media while the actual real people with gender disphoria(sp) etc won't be any further along being accepted or considered normal as they should be.

EG. A man. John. John wants to be addressed as she. John does not want to be a woman (surgery) or even dress as a woman. John just wants to be addressed as she. John will still date woman, will still use male toilets, will still be in every way a male except he wants to be addressed as a she. This may sound ridiculous but I guarantee you that is happening somewhere in America right now.

This is the way the world is going thanks to all the PC bullsh1t and SJWs going around. Imo.
Worse is happening, you have almost 60 year old fat men that want to identify as 6 year old girls.

And the liberals love it, letting him play with their daughters and everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVRrybYWNE

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21-01-2018, 17:18   #66
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Why do bloggers on the right always have to use terms like CRUSHED and DESTROYED!!!!'???

It's a bit embarrassing.
THIS 100 times this, or the fact that every other interesting commentator on the right seems to have their videos uploaded and poorly edited by yokels randomly cutting bits out and inserting american flags/patriotic music all over the place.
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Ever see Noam Chomsky getting into twitter fights with journalists or celebrities?

No because he is an actual intellectual not like these spoofers Peterson. Shapiro is even worse. Lots of money to be made with the disaffected white male market though.
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Ever see Noam Chomsky getting into twitter fights with journalists or celebrities?

No because he is an actual intellectual not like these spoofers Peterson. Shapiro is even worse. Lots of money to be made with the disaffected white male market though.
Don't think Peterson got into a Twitter fight about this particular interview.

If anything, he was complimentary of Cathy Newman, thanked her for the debate, asked her if she would like an extended podcast on other issues related to the topics raised and asked those trolling her to desist.
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Ever see Noam Chomsky getting into twitter fights with journalists or celebrities?

No because he is an actual intellectual not like these spoofers Peterson. Shapiro is even worse. Lots of money to be made with the disaffected white male market though.
Chomsky had his moments back in the day..
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Ever see Noam Chomsky getting into twitter fights with journalists or celebrities?

No because he is an actual intellectual not like these spoofers Peterson. Shapiro is even worse. Lots of money to be made with the disaffected white male market though.

A clinical psychologist is a way better qualification if you're dealing with human behaviour.
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Don't think Peterson got into a Twitter fight about this particular interview.

If anything, he was complimentary of Cathy Newman, thanked her for the debate, asked her if she would like an extended podcast on other issues related to the topics raised and asked those trolling her to desist.
His last few tweets sound like a teenage kid throwing in some long words to try and sound intelligent.
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His last few tweets sound like a teenage kid throwing in some long words to try and sound intelligent.

Just so you know,the butt hurt is obvious.
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Just so you know,the butt hurt is obvious.
REKT!!!

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Not at all. He destroyed someone in argument and because that person was a feminist you're desperately trying to paint him as petulant child.

Maybe just accept JP came out on top?
No putting words in my mouth.
Didn't watch the video the have seen enough of him to know he's a charlatan cashing in. Don't care who "won" or lost the "debate" it's not a sport with sides.
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That was some painful viewing. Newman was clearly fully briefed with all the 4th wave feminist talking points for an attack interview on the patriarchal chauvinist pig. Peterson just completely outclassed her. I don't think she laid a glove on him.

Interviews and exchanges of ideas would be better served by non-ideological interviewers. Nothing Peterson said was especially controversial and he referred to evidence and relevant research when saying them. Ideology - wishing something wasn't so - is not too effective at disproving evidence based positions. Newman is probably wishing she had prepared better.

As Peterson said though, fair play to C4 for putting it up there uncut. There must have been a strong urge to recut the interview to try make Peterson look bad, but it was so one sided I guess Newman left them with nothing to work with.
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