The Tipperary GAA (Club and Intercounty) Thread

kilkennyboy · 19-02-2020 10:08am

MilfordBud wrote: »

I meant starting/playing in a winning All Ireland final. Of the extra KK lads named above only Willie O'Dwyer ever played in a final.

John dalton only played in 2010.and as of 2015 no galway man had won a all Ireland in nearly30 years. Fairly poorly researched article. .

Rasputin11 · 19-02-2020 2:59pm

Will the match go ahead in Nenagh on Sunday? The pitch will struggle to handle the weeks rain. I could see it being moved to Thurles yet.

Xenophile · 19-02-2020 9:12pm

Paddico wrote: »

Are Tipp FM covering it?

Xenophile wrote: »

They will have a reporter there, but the game will not be covered live.

Half Time. Limerick: 0 02 Tipperary: 0 03.

Banner2theend · 19-02-2020 9:20pm

Limerick 0-5 Tipp 0-3 after 45 mins in the Munster U20 football championship quarter-final. Absolute biblical conditions in Rathkeale tonight. No stand either so patrons getting completely soaked to their skins. This is John Horan's legacy folks. Squeeze all these competitions into a few weeks. Treating the likes of the Sigerson, Fitzgibbon Cups and other third level tournaments with distaste. Along with the scheduling of the U20 football championship this is one fine mess we have.

The sugardaddy of the Super 8's and the wellbeing of Dublin GAA is what's most paramount to Mr Horan and his allies in Croke Park. Forget the other 31 counties. There won't be many tears when the Na Fianna clubman leaves his role as GAA President in 12 months time.

Back to the U20 football game it's level pegging 6 all. Extra time perhaps?

Xenophile · 19-02-2020 9:34pm

Tipperary lose by 1 point.

[Deleted User] · 20-02-2020 1:03am

Xenophile wrote: »

Tipperary lose by 1 point.

Hard luck to the lads. Unfortunate

Ompala · 21-02-2020 10:21pm

Tipp team announced to play Westmeath in Nenagh at 2pm on Sunday

1. Brian Hogan
2. Cathal Barrett
3. Barry Heffernan
4. Sean O'Brien
5. Seamus Kennedy
6. Ronan Maher
7. Bryan O' Mara
8. Alan Flynn
9. Michael Breen
10. Mark Kehoe
11. Niall O' Meara
12. Cian Darcy
13. Jason Forde
14. Seamus Callanan
15. Jake Morris
16. Barry Hogan
17. Paddy Cadell
18. Jerome Cahill
19. Paul Flynn
20. Paul Maher
21. Brian McGrath
22. John McGrath
23. Noel McGrath
24. Craig Morgan
25. Joe O'Dwyer
26. Dillon Quirke

Ompala · 22-02-2020 2:37pm

Match has been moved to Semple Stadium tomorrow at 2 pm

digzy · 24-02-2020 12:11am

Will there be highlights of the Westmeath game on the tv tonight? Looks like we’re getting the auld ‘stoke v West Brom’ treatment from motd!

[Deleted User] · 24-02-2020 1:44am

digzy wrote: »

Will there be highlights of the Westmeath game on the tv tonight? Looks like we’re getting the auld ‘stoke v West Brom’ treatment from motd!

Did they show any bit of the Tipp game? Well able to show even snippets of Kilkenny, Cork or Galway battering minnows. As expected, a comprehensive win today. I would persist with the youngsters and see how we get on. We cant be relegated now anyway so we've nothing to lose. We're in a good place ahead of May. Everything is nice and calm.

Hardest of luck to the gallant footballers yesterday. In spite of losing so much personnel they battle on. To hit 21 points against the runaway leaders of the division is mightily impressive. We need to keep believing. 3 winnable games left.

Rasputin11 · 24-02-2020 9:14am

tipp_Gunner wrote: »

Did they show any bit of the Tipp game? Well able to show even snippets of Kilkenny, Cork or Galway battering minnows. As expected, a comprehensive win today. I would persist with the youngsters and see how we get on. We cant be relegated now anyway so we've nothing to lose. We're in a good place ahead of May. Everything is nice and calm.

Hardest of luck to the gallant footballers yesterday. In spite of losing so much personnel they battle on. To hit 21 points against the runaway leaders of the division is mightily impressive. We need to keep believing. 3 winnable games left.

No highlights of the match at all.

Mantis Toboggan · 28-02-2020 1:06pm

Just in case people hadn't seen this.

https://twitter.com/HurlerD/status/1233147136721682432?s=19

Joe_ Public · 28-02-2020 1:20pm

Pity about Killian O'Dwyer. Liked him underage and thought we could do with a specialist left back or two. Hopefully can get himself back into contention over next couple of years. I imagine there's still a bit more pruning to do before final squad is settled.

Mantis Toboggan · 28-02-2020 10:00pm

Tipp team v Waterford
First senior starts for Brian McGrath & Dillon Quirke
Brian Hogan
Cathal Barrett
Ronan Maher
Brian McGrath
Alan Flynn
Barry Heffernan
Padraic Maher
Noel McGrath
Michael Breen
Jason Forde
John McGrath
Niall O'Meara
Willie Connors
Seamus Callanan
Dillon Quirke

Ompala · 28-02-2020 10:36pm

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Tipp team v Waterford
First senior starts for Brian McGrath & Dillon Quirke
Brian Hogan
Cathal Barrett
Ronan Maher
Brian McGrath
Alan Flynn
Barry Heffernan
Padraic Maher
Noel McGrath
Michael Breen
Jason Forde
John McGrath
Niall O'Meara
Willie Connors
Seamus Callanan
Dillon Quirke

Odd looking team I must say

Xenophile · 28-02-2020 11:19pm

Substitutes deserve a mention.

1 Brian Hogan – Lorrha-Dorrha
2 Cathal Barrett – Holycross-Ballycahill
3 Ronan Maher – Thurles Sarsfields
4 Brian McGrath – Loughmore-Castleiney
5 Alan Flynn – Kiladangan
6 Barry Heffernan – Nenagh Éire Óg
7 Padraic Maher – Thurles Sarsfields
8 Noel McGrath – Loughmore-Castleiney
9 Michael Breen – Ballina
10 Jason Forde – Silvermines
11 John McGrath – Loughmore-Castleiney
12 Niall O’Meara – Kilruane MacDonaghs
13 Willie Connors – Kiladangan
14 Séamus Callanan (Capt.) – Drom-Inch
15 Dillon Quirke – Clonoulty-Rossmore

16 Daragh Mooney – Éire Óg Annacarty-Donohill
17 Paddy Cadell – JK Brackens
18 Jerome Cahill – Kilruane MacDonaghs
19 Cian Darcy – Kilruane MacDonaghs
20 Paul Flynn – Kiladangan
21 Mark Kehoe – Kilsheelan-Kilcash
22 Paul Maher – Kilsheelan-Kilcash
23 Craig Morgan – Kilruane MacDonaghs
24 Jake Morris – Nenagh Éire Óg
25 Joe O’Dwyer – Killenaule
26 Bryan O’Mara – Holycross-Ballycahill

Xenophile · 28-02-2020 11:23pm

Tipperary football team to play Longford.

1 Evan Comerford – Kilsheelan-Kilcash
2 Alan Campbell – Moyle Rovers
3 John Meagher – Loughmore-Castleiney
4 Tadhg Fitzgerald – Moyle Rovers
5 Kevin Fahey – Clonmel Commercials
6 Robbie Kiely – Carbery Rangers
7 Bill Maher – Kilsheelan-Kilcash
8 Steven O’Brien – Ballina
9 Conal Kennedy – Clonmel Commercials
10 Emmet Moloney – Drom-Inch
11 Jack Kennedy – Clonmel Commercials
12 Brian Fox – Éire Óg Annacarty-Donohill
13 Conor Sweeney (Capt.) – Ballyporeen
14 Sean O’Connor – Clonmel Commercials
15 Riain Quigley – Moyle Rovers

16 Kuba Beben – JK Brackens
17 Colm O’Shaughnessy – Ardfinnan
18 Daire Brennan – Kilsheelan-Kilcash
19 Jack Harney – Moyle Rovers
20 Jimmy Feehan – Killenaule
21 Alan Moloney – Rockwell Rovers
22 Padraic Looram – Clonmel Commercials
23 Liam Boland – Moyle Rovers
24 Philip Austin – Borrisokane
25 Kevin O’Halloran – Portroe
26 Jason Lonergan – Clonmel Commercials

Mantis Toboggan · 29-02-2020 12:22am

Ompala wrote: »

Odd looking team I must say

3 McGrath brothers, first time 3 brothers start since the Bonners of Cashel.

Joe_ Public · 29-02-2020 12:34am

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

3 McGrath brothers, first time 3 McGrath brothers start since the Bonners of Cashel.

The Bonner McGraths? ;-)

Great to see mcgrath the youngest finally. I think he'll go well. Interested in our halfforward line, a good balance there is critical.

Mantis Toboggan · 29-02-2020 9:48am

Joe_ Public wrote: »

The Bonner McGraths? ;-)

Great to see mcgrath the youngest finally. I think he'll go well. Interested in our halfforward line, a good balance there is critical.

LoL

Yeah big game for Brian he's been waiting a long time for opportunities. I'd imagine he'll start in the half back line with Alan Flynn dropping back? Same with Quirke maybe start wing forward with Forde moving in.

Should be a good game, Cahill will want to make an impression and they will be ready for a battle. Hopefully the weather doesn't affect it too much. Live on TV so I'll probably watch it on the box. Too risky to be travelling down for it.

iebamm2580 · 29-02-2020 9:49am

good player brian mcgrath, would be slightly worried about his pace however.

Tipperary animal lover · 29-02-2020 10:01am

iebamm2580 wrote: »

good player brian mcgrath, would be slightly worried about his pace however.

That was said many a time about Ronan Maher over the years, one of the best center backs in the country atm, he has experience crafty as f'ck toughness able to read the game in abundance that helps big time when your opponent has the legs on ya, mcgrath has most of this(experience at this level will come),

Joe_ Public · 29-02-2020 10:09am

I do think the pace angle can be a bit overplayed alright. Also heard it said about john mcgrath and I'm sure a few others too, forde probably. Its nice to have of course, but give me a hurling brain and reading of the game everytime. If pace was all it was cracked up to be, then cork would probably have racked up a couple of all irelands over the past decade.

iebamm2580 · 29-02-2020 10:13am

Ronan maher is an exceptional reader of the game as is paudie, pace is important if you dont have certain attributes, hope im wrong but would be slightly worried. Pace for a forward is not as important if you have great stick work which our forwards have in abundance. Ronan also seems to be getting settled in to the full back role. Wexford had us all over the shop int the semi with their running game.

Joe_ Public · 29-02-2020 10:26am

Its a good discussion. I'd wonder what attributes a defender might lack that pace could compensate for. And i think its equally a factor in all positions when you consider defending starts from the front now, especially when teams like limerick and wexford are all about penetrating runs from deep where I'd accept pace can expose you. But kilkennys nullifying of limericks threat from deep in the sf showed how to best deal with that imo. And cork look to be going more direct from what I've seen of them this year, you have a guy like pa horgan so stop fannying about with runs from deep and get it into him tout suite.

iebamm2580 · 29-02-2020 10:30am

Running from deep is a tiring game plan, hard to keep up fro 70+minutes, think tipp have by far the best and most enjoyable style to watch.

robbiezero · 29-02-2020 10:32am

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Its a good discussion. I'd wonder what attributes a defender might lack that pace could compensate for. And i think its equally a factor in all positions when you consider defending starts from the front now, especially when teams like limerick and wexford are all about penetrating runs from deep where I'd accept pace can expose you. But kilkennys nullifying of limericks threat from deep in the sf showed how to best deal with that imo. And cork look to be going more direct from what I've seen of them this year, you have a guy like pa horgan so stop fannying about with runs from deep and get it into him tout suite.

Reading of the game I would think. Most runs out to a ball are short sprints so it's all about that first step.
If the defender times it right and sprints before the forward and gets a step on him he is unlikely to be beaten.
Structure is very important also. Keeping the six backs in position and ensuring that there is no big pockets of space for a forward to run into.
Wouldnt underestimate the importance of having a few really quick defenders either. The likes of barrett and brendan maher are brilliant at getting back to cover if another defender is beaten or an overlap.

robbiezero · 29-02-2020 10:54am

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Running from deep is a tiring game plan, hard to keep up fro 70+minutes, think tipp have by far the best and most enjoyable style to watch.

Agreed. We can go short with stick passing when needed and can go long with diagonal balls etc and the odds lump. Very good to watch.
Teams need to be able to mix it up. Limerick last year v KK just kept on trying to work it through a crowded middle third and played right into their hands instead of trying some quick long balls and moving the defence around.

Mantis Toboggan · 29-02-2020 10:58am

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Running from deep is a tiring game plan, hard to keep up fro 70+minutes, think tipp have by far the best and most enjoyable style to watch.

Yeah but also very tiring on defences having to track all the runs. Can be very disheartening.

Joe_ Public · 29-02-2020 10:59am

Agree re points on last couple of posts. Covering is crucial and i agree a guy like brendan is invaluable in that regard, total legend of the game already.

Watching the wexford game recently, i think our big problem was exposed there. Same in Munster final too. When you dont track runners, there's not much defenders can do when they've got a man to mark and another bearing down on them. No defensive attribute going to get you out of that one i think. I like so much about Niall O'Meara but repeatedly he and bubbles let their men go and the end result was carnage at the other end. Kilkenny stopped limerick at source in other sf. Character got us out of that, but only just.

I think we need to fix that this year and we're back in business. I believe a good intelligent direct team should beat a good running team but you still have to go execute the plan.

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