View Poll Results: What do you believe happens when we die
We go to an afterlife (heaven or hell) 15 8.52%
That's it, there is no more 89 50.57%
I am undecided but feel that's the end of it for me 48 27.27%
I am undecided but feel there is some form of continued existance for me 25 14.20%
I don't care or mind 12 6.82%
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01-11-2020, 21:20   #46
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Less than a week for someone who was embalmed.
I just didn't think they'd do that, that's nuts
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I just didn't think they'd do that, that's nuts
Well it happened.
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The theory of your brain releasing its final flood of comforting hormones as life ends is credible and certainly would explain the common experiences of tunnels of light, feelings of peace and a sensation of floating above your body. Like a natural pain killer to ease the cessation of life.

But...it doesnt explain other aspects that thousands of people experience such as meeting people that they never met before, being able to see certain objects and recollect specific conversations between people when technically brain dead. Taking away conditioned religious upbringing theres enough variety there to convince me there may be something else beyond this world.
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I don’t know what happens when we die and I’m usually 100% practical about it. However I’ve had 3 separate things that have happened in my life that makes me think in some way we do go on. I don’t ever talk about what happened because people would think I’m a bit funny but it does make the topic a little bit less black and white for me.
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Like the famous Frédéric François Chopin, you decompose.
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Like the famous Frédéric François Chopin, you decompose.

Unless you can come Bach
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The theory of your brain releasing its final flood of comforting hormones as life ends is credible and certainly would explain the common experiences of tunnels of light, feelings of peace and a sensation of floating above your body. Like a natural pain killer to ease the cessation of life.

But...it doesnt explain other aspects that thousands of people experience such as meeting people that they never met before, being able to see certain objects and recollect specific conversations between people when technically brain dead. Taking away conditioned religious upbringing theres enough variety there to convince me there may be something else beyond this world.
If one experiences DMT or magic mushrooms in high doses one can often meet entities, spirits etc and converse with them. The brain produces DMT apparently. Maybe a flood of brain chemicals can explain for the things you pointed out.
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You're dead. The only ones who can give accurate details aren't here.

In a way it's better not to know. If you're religious, agnostic or atheist you can die on your own terms.
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02-11-2020, 10:07   #55
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There are two aspects for me. What happens to your consciousness and what happens to your body which houses and enables that consciousness to function. Clinical death is simply a failure of your body to facilitate the delicate balance required to sustain consciousness. You literally black out. Permanently. Your own personal consciousness ends as the mechanism i.e. your brain/body/senses can no longer perceive the physical world. The crude analogy is an electric circuit. Remove the battery and the current stops but the physical constituents of the mechanism remains. It just doesn't work or do any work anymore. The other aspect is what happens to your body. The hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen atoms and the molecules they coalesce into are still present after you die. If you get cremated then you will mostly be carbon. If you're buried then you chemically decompose in the earth itself.

This leads onto what happens to the earth itself and all of the atoms which make us and everything else up. Earth will ultimately get consumed when our star burns through it's fuel. Whatever forms of "life" on earth, be they physical or mechanical, will inevitably perish during that process. There is the hypotheses of the Big Crunch/Bounce which is one I would subscribe to. Ultimately all matter in the galaxies of the universe end up in the singularity of the supermassive black holes at their galactic centre via gravity. Over the course of trillions of years these billions of supermassive black holes will, again via gravity, slowly converge on themselves and collide. The Milky Way's black hole, and all of us, will participate. Ultimately we all end up with a hyper massive black hole containing all the matter of our universe. This black hole itself evaporates over the course of another trillion years or so until we're left with a primordial singularity with infinite density. As energy is a conserved quantity then all of the energy of the universe we knew is contained in that single point. This might lie dormant again for a few trillion years until a quantum fluctuation releases that energy into another universe. Whether this new universe has the proper conditions to allow it's particles to form into matter and ultimately into life will be down to probability. We're just part of that process, one which to us happened to work, and so we should be thankful, given the mind boggling scale of this process, to participate in it for even a short time.

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Other current theories suggest that time itself is an illusion and that all that is is present.
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There are two aspects for me. What happens to your consciousness and what happens to your body which houses and enables that consciousness to function. Clinical death is simply a failure of your body to facilitate the delicate balance required to sustain consciousness. You literally black out. Permanently. Your own personal consciousness ends as the mechanism i.e. your brain/body/senses can no longer perceive the physical world. The crude analogy is an electric circuit. Remove the battery and the current stops but the physical constituents of the mechanism remains. It just doesn't work or do any work anymore. The other aspect is what happens to your body. The hydrogen, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen atoms and the molecules they coalesce into are still present after you die. If you get cremated then you will mostly be carbon. If you're buried then you chemically decompose in the earth itself.

This leads onto what happens to the earth itself and all of the atoms which make us and everything else up. Earth will ultimately get consumed when our star burns through it's fuel. Whatever forms of "life" on earth, be they physical or mechanical, will inevitably perish during that process. There is the hypotheses of the Big Crunch/Bounce which is one I would subscribe to. Ultimately all matter in the galaxies of the universe end up in the singularity of the supermassive black holes at their galactic centre via gravity. Over the course of trillions of years these billions of supermassive black holes will, again via gravity, slowly converge on themselves and collide. The Milky Way's black hole, and all of us, will participate. Ultimately we all end up with a hyper massive black hole containing all the matter of our universe. This black hole itself evaporates over the course of another trillion years or so until we're left with a primordial singularity with infinite density. As energy is a conserved quantity then all of the energy of the universe we knew is contained in that single point. This might lie dormant again for a few trillion years until a quantum fluctuation releases that energy into another universe. Whether this new universe has the proper conditions to allow it's particles to form into matter and ultimately into life will be down to probability. We're just part of that process, one which to us happened to work, and so we should be thankful, given the mind boggling scale of this process, to participate in it for even a short time.

Well? see below that questions current thinking.


https://opensciences.org/gary-schwartz
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It's just like drifting off for a restful, dreamless night's sleep.......

Except you never wake up.
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The mind doesn't wake up after you die but consciousness survives.It never dies as it was never born,just always was and is constantly changing.

There are three states we are subjected to here.
Awake state.Consciousness is in the body and mind.
Dreaming state.Consciousness withdraws from the body to the mind alone.
Dreamless sleep.Consciousness withdraws from the body and the mind but is still aware..we wake up and start our new day.When we die consciousness leaves and forgets the body and mind forever and moves to that dreamless sleep state,but it then becomes aware of its full spectrum without the constant nagging of the mind.
When we die is when we really wake up.
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