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Bundled tank or not

  • 03-02-2021 9:06pm
    #1
    naughtysmurf
    Registered Users Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭


    The folks have to get a replacement oil tank, legally does it need to be bunded in this setting?
    They live in a city residential area, the old tank is about 1 meter from the rear of the house, there are drains related to downpipes close enough too.
    Thanks


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  • #2
    Wearb
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,205 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wearb


    Here is some info and places to find more.

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  • #3
    naughtysmurf
    Registered Users Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    Thanks, also the new oil burner is situated outside, I’d say approximately 2m from the existing tank, from the info I’ve given do you think it should be bunded, at a guess I’d say yes?


  • #4
    Wearb
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,205 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wearb


    The bund is to protect the environment from leakage contamination. It offers no real fire protection.

    Please follow site and charter rules. "Resistance is futile"



  • #5
    naughtysmurf
    Registered Users Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    Wearb wrote: »
    The bund is to protect the environment from leakage contamination. It offers no real fire protection.

    So what kind of tank would you buy if you were in their situation, single skin or bunded?
    Thanks


  • #6
    Wearb
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,205 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wearb


    Nowadays I always recommend bunded in every instance.

    At 2 metres, you might be far enough away from the boiler (flue). I don't have the most up-to-date regs to hand, but you should be able to find what you need on the oftech site or part J of building regs.

    BTW Read what I sent regarding how close it can be to the house. The house wall AFAIK is considered fire rated if it doesn't have an opening.

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  • #7
    dathi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭dathi


    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/25ed9-technical-guidance-document-j-heat-producing-appliances/


    pages 47 48 and 49 of above it part J of building regulations that apply to oil storage not part L


  • #8
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,716 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Nowadays, the only place you’d realistically get away with a single skin tank is in the middle of a large field, to comply with all clearances. Always fit a bunded tank. I’d always make note in the boiler passport too that a bunded tank should be fitted because almost no current single wall tank that’s fitted in Ireland is up to current standards


  • #9
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    How much is a bunded 1000L tank ?
    I need a new one this year.


  • #10
    stoneill
    Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭stoneill


    Can you not build your own bund for the tank to sit in?
    A bund is just a secondary containment - doesn't have to be sealed on top as long as it stops oil from leaking to environment.


  • #11
    Dtp1979
    Registered Users Posts: 12,716 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    stoneill wrote: »
    Can you not build your own bund for the tank to sit in?
    A bund is just a secondary containment - doesn't have to be sealed on top as long as it stops oil from leaking to environment.

    The expense of that would be outweigh the cost of the tank.
    A 1,000 l tank is around 800-900


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  • #12
    looksee
    Registered Users Posts: 28,018 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    BUNDED every time.


  • #13
    i57dwun4yb1pt8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭i57dwun4yb1pt8


    i just bought a bunded tank after the old one started to crack on top
    have a water well so taking no risks with oil
    installing next week

    BUT

    it has a 4 inch cap opening and a second metal spout opening 2 inch with a cap on top and a stop float inside - which one do they use to fill the tank
    as im baffled ?


  • #14
    Wearb
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 6,205 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wearb


    Jaxon Brief Sister-in-law wrote: »
    i just bought a bunded tank after the old one started to crack on top
    have a water well so taking no risks with oil
    installing next week

    BUT

    it has a 4 inch cap opening and a second metal spout opening 2 inch with a cap on top and a stop float inside - which one do they use to fill the tank
    as im baffled ?
    The 4". The other one is usually used for remote filling.

    Please follow site and charter rules. "Resistance is futile"



  • #15
    i57dwun4yb1pt8
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭i57dwun4yb1pt8


    i put in the 650 litre bunded tank myself , took me 5 hours including pumping 250 litres from old to new with a tiny drill powered pump
    i also strapped the tank down as it gets very windy here if the tank was low it may move .

    great peace of mind now its in ,and i can start ordering larger and cheaper deliverys .


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