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Nature on your farm.

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  • #482
    Little Miss Fairy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 165 ✭✭Little Miss Fairy


    Base price wrote: »
    Anyone know what this plant is.

    Think it could be foxglove


  • #483
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,119 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Little Miss Fairy wrote: »
    Think it could be foxglove
    Thanks. I just googled how to collect foxglove seeds and it's them alright. TBH I never noticed the seed heads on them before probably because I stopped using herbicides around the yard in the last couple of years. I use the strimmer to control most areas and let other parts go wild.


  • #484
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,104 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    This is interesting a Biodiversity Farm of the year. Hadn't heard of it before. Now, I don't generally agree that everything has to be a competition. I would be quite happy with a regular feature article on a farmer engaged in some good aspects of biodiversity. Anyway it will highlight the area in a positive way.
    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/could-you-be-this-years-biodiversity-farmer-of-the-year/


  • #485
    ganmo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    522844.jpg
    Any ID for this bloke?


  • #486
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,119 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    ganmo wrote: »
    Any ID for this bloke?
    Looks a bit like this fella http://www.irishmoths.net/pages-moth/m-672.html


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  • #487
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,104 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Ah, a West Cork moth.


  • #488
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,119 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Water John wrote: »
    Ah, a West Cork moth.
    Ha, ha :)


  • #489
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    I came across this wee lad tonight while feeding the cats. Fine healthy lump he is too.
    8BK2FO1.jpg


  • #490
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,104 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    You gave him a rub too. I think they have lots of fleas.


  • #491
    Dinzee Conlee
    Registered Users Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Seen this lad when I was out over the weekend, never seen one like it before..


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  • #492
    Meleftone
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭Meleftone


    Thats a Six-spot Burnet Moth


  • #493
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »
    I came across this wee lad tonight while feeding the cats. Fine healthy lump he is too.

    It is safe to feed cat food to hedgehogs, I gave some to a little small fellow, he sniffed it out on the grass and ate it.


  • #494
    Rosahane
    Registered Users Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭Rosahane


    Lime Tree Farm wrote: »
    It is safe to feed cat food to hedgehogs, I gave some to a little small fellow, he sniffed it out on the grass and ate it.

    Cat or dog food either wet or dry are good for them. Not bread or dairy though!


  • #495
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Lime Tree Farm wrote: »
    It is safe to feed cat food to hedgehogs, I gave some to a little small fellow, he sniffed it out on the grass and ate it.

    Was only reading on it last night, anything with a higher meat content than fillers of grains so the dry cat food might be better.

    https://twitter.com/dancingtrsrs/status/1295754339584282624


  • #496
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,119 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    The Dept of Heritage is to pay farmers to rewild land - https://www.farmersjournal.ie/government-to-pay-farmers-for-small-scale-rewilding-565017


  • #497
    Dinzee Conlee
    Registered Users Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Base price wrote: »
    The Dept of Heritage is to pay farmers to rewild land - https://www.farmersjournal.ie/government-to-pay-farmers-for-small-scale-rewilding-565017

    Any chance you could paste the article Base?


  • #498
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,119 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Dinzee Conlee wrote: »
    Any chance you could paste the article Base?
    Farmers will be paid to rewild land on a small scale by the Department of Heritage, the Irish Farmers Journal can reveal.
    The Department will support rewilding options which support biodiversity and habitat creation, documents from the Department show.
    It has defined small scale as one hectare of land. The Department will “actively promote and support farm forestry/rewilding options that do not affect agricultural production and support biodiversity and habitat creation.
    “We will incentivise the option of small-scale (eg 1ha) forestry/rewilding,” it said.
    The Department will also review the protection, including the enforcement of relevant legislation, of the country’s natural heritage, including hedgerows, native woodland and wetlands.
    Land use plan
    As was contained in the programme for government, a review is to be carried out of national land use including farmland, forests and peatlands “so that optimal land use options inform all relevant Government decisions”.
    Policy co-benefits, such as rewetting or forest regrowth to mitigate flooding risks in river catchments will be considered
    The review will balance environmental, social and economic considerations and involve a process of evaluation of the ecological characteristics of the land, according to the Department.
    “It will include consideration of emissions to air and water, carbon sequestration, as well as climate adaptation challenges.
    “Policy co-benefits, such as rewetting or forest regrowth to mitigate flooding risks in river catchments will be considered. All stakeholders will be consulted.
    “Such a review would allow knowledge transfer to policy makers, advisory services and landowners, to assist farmers in making an informed choice as to how best to use their land while also benefiting from available supports and incentives,” it said.
    Biodiversity survey
    The Department will also carry out a “baseline biodiversity survey on every farm” to inform future policy development and is to complete a national hedgerow survey. This was part of the programme for government talks earlier this year.
    Department documents also show that the National Parks and Wildlife Service is to be reviewed.


  • #499
    ganmo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Base price wrote: »
    Farmers will be paid to rewild land on a small scale by the Department of Heritage, the Irish Farmers Journal can reveal.
    The Department will support rewilding options which support biodiversity and habitat creation, documents from the Department show.
    It has defined small scale as one hectare of land. The Department will “actively promote and support farm forestry/rewilding options that do not affect agricultural production and support biodiversity and habitat creation.
    “We will incentivise the option of small-scale (eg 1ha) forestry/rewilding,” it said.
    The Department will also review the protection, including the enforcement of relevant legislation, of the country’s natural heritage, including hedgerows, native woodland and wetlands.
    Land use plan
    As was contained in the programme for government, a review is to be carried out of national land use including farmland, forests and peatlands “so that optimal land use options inform all relevant Government decisions”.
    Policy co-benefits, such as rewetting or forest regrowth to mitigate flooding risks in river catchments will be considered
    The review will balance environmental, social and economic considerations and involve a process of evaluation of the ecological characteristics of the land, according to the Department.
    “It will include consideration of emissions to air and water, carbon sequestration, as well as climate adaptation challenges.
    “Policy co-benefits, such as rewetting or forest regrowth to mitigate flooding risks in river catchments will be considered. All stakeholders will be consulted.
    “Such a review would allow knowledge transfer to policy makers, advisory services and landowners, to assist farmers in making an informed choice as to how best to use their land while also benefiting from available supports and incentives,” it said.
    Biodiversity survey
    The Department will also carry out a “baseline biodiversity survey on every farm” to inform future policy development and is to complete a national hedgerow survey. This was part of the programme for government talks earlier this year.
    Department documents also show that the National Parks and Wildlife Service is to be reviewed.

    What I see happening
    - dept of heritage pay for the rewilding
    - after 2 years the place is overrun with thistles and rag worth
    - gets reported to the dept of ag
    - landowner has to decide which department to piss off


  • #500
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,104 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Looks like a lot of jobs there, surveying every farm. And who'll pay, towser?


  • #501
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,119 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Water John wrote: »
    Looks like a lot of jobs there, surveying every farm. And who'll pay, towser?
    There are nearly 400,000 km's of hedgerows in Ireland. How many people would it take to survey them in one or two years?


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  • #502
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Base price wrote: »
    There are nearly 400,000 km's of hedgerows in Ireland. How many people would it take to survey them in one or two years?

    There's a head guy after being recruited so I imagine there will be quite a few on the ground early next year.

    Or just use ex Ministers of Ag, looks like we could have another one available soon.:)


  • #503
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,119 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »
    There's a head guy after being recruited so I imagine there will be quite a few on the ground early next year.

    Or just use ex Ministers of Ag, looks like we could have another one available soon.:)
    I wonder are the press releases just talk cause I wonder where the money is going to come from to pay for these incentives.


  • #504
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,606 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »
    There's a head guy after being recruited so I imagine there will be quite a few on the ground early next year.

    Or just use ex Ministers of Ag, looks like we could have another one available soon.:)

    or up in the sky looking down


  • #505
    80sDiesel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭80sDiesel


    Interesting re rewilding. I just started to rewild an acre of land . Borders an area I plan to sow wildflowers and was just awkward enough of an area that it suited trying it. Borders a stream with ash and hawthorn. Already seeing the blackthorn suckers getting good growth and an abundance of hedge nettles( not to be confused with stinging nettles). Definitely an interesting thing to watch.

    A man is rich in proportion to the number of things which he can afford to let alone.



  • #506
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,104 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Interestingly I had two areas that were never tamed on the farm, one was about an acre and had some very old sallies mainly ie scrub woodland. That was on a parcel of land I sold. The second is small but of a similar nature. The natural state of our land is, scrub woodland. Not many species of plant thrive under the canopy.
    I thinking flowering meadow would be a much more diverse flora.


  • #507
    Birdnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Water John wrote: »
    Interestingly I had two areas that were never tamed on the farm, one was about an acre and had some very old sallies mainly ie scrub woodland. That was on a parcel of land I sold. The second is small but of a similar nature. The natural state of our land is, scrub woodland. Not many species of plant thrive under the canopy.
    I thinking flowering meadow would be a much more diverse flora.

    Your probably right - I'm currently working with a lad from home(Kildare) who wants to restore a Fen on his land. Its all overgrown atm so first thing he needs is to get some light hardy cattle to clean it out.


  • #508
    Birdnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    ganmo wrote: »
    What I see happening
    - dept of heritage pay for the rewilding
    - after 2 years the place is overrun with thistles and rag worth
    - gets reported to the dept of ag
    - landowner has to decide which department to piss off

    If its designed by the same folk in the DAFM that came up with REPS and GLAS then I would have similar concerns. Why they didn't just copy proven schemes that have worked very well in the UK i just don't know:rolleyes:


  • #509
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,119 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    Your probably right - I'm currently working with a lad from home(Kildare) who wants to restore a Fen on his land. Its all overgrown atm so first thing he needs is to get some light hardy cattle to clean it out.
    A few Tamworth, Saddleback or GOS pigs would probably do a better job.


  • #510
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,104 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    More worrying, it's a different Dept.


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  • #511
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,119 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Water John wrote: »
    More worrying, it's a different Dept.
    The auld divide and conquer act ;)
    Don't trust the Greenies.


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