General Irish Government discussion thread [See Post 1805]

tayto lover · 14-01-2020 12:40pm

markodaly wrote: »

Who are they?
It's obvious you do not remember, nor care.

You’re the one who suggested that FG did something in 02, so it’s up to you to do the convincing.

L1011 · 14-01-2020 12:45pm

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Speculation now that the election will be held on 8th Feb which will be a Saturday. If that is confirmed it would be the first ever GE on that day of the week.

Last vote on a Saturday I'm aware of was the Childrens Rights Referendum in 2012 and before that possibly the 1918 GE.

UsBus · 14-01-2020 12:51pm

Whatever about calling it on the same day as the 6 nations, at least for a change it is not on a weekday, forcing every school in the country to close. The teachers won't be happy i'd say.....they were probably expecting a day off for it. It makes complete sense to hold it at the weekend. If the majority of people want to vote they can make it..

seamus · 14-01-2020 12:54pm

corcaigh07 wrote: »

Is there enough time for voters to process change of address/voting region?

My vote is in Dublin but moved to West Cork recently.

There may be time to get included on the supplemental register.

If they go for the 8th Feb date, then the last date for getting your registration in will be Wednesday 22nd January.

If they go for 13th February (the latest it can be), then the last date for the register will be Monday 27th.

Sierra Oscar · 14-01-2020 1:01pm

Taoiseach will visit the Áras at 2pm today to seek a dissolution of the Dáil.

marieholmfan · 14-01-2020 1:04pm

Varadkar put his posters up at the weekend.

<SNIP>

Cork Boy 53 · 14-01-2020 1:08pm

marieholmfan wrote: »

Varadkar put his posters up at the weekend.

I thought there was a regulation against putting up any posters before the election date has been officially announced. Obviously I was mistaken.

Sierra Oscar · 14-01-2020 1:16pm

marieholmfan wrote: »

Varadkar put his posters up at the weekend.

What a scumbag,

They only went up this morning as fas I can see? Still before they should have went up nonetheless.

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I thought there was a regulation against putting up any posters before the election date has been officially announced. Obviously I was mistaken.

There are. All parties are at it now though given that the election has been confirmed.

L1011 · 14-01-2020 1:19pm

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I thought there was a regulation against putting up any posters before the election date has been officially announced. Obviously I was mistaken.

There are regs. Polling order has to be made, which it hasn't been yet.

If the date is more than 30 days after the polling order; which is normal for all non-General elections, its 30 days back from the date of the election.

In reality once the election date is sure everyone runs to get the spaces, so most will be up tonight. This is not a snap election in any real sense so everyone has posters ready.

tobsey · 14-01-2020 1:24pm

tayto lover wrote: »

What did they do in 02?

With Michael Noonan as leader FG stated that FF were grossly inflating public spending which was putting the country at risk. The FG manifesto called for a reduction in spending to more sustainable levels. The Irish people wiped the floor with them, returning the fewest seats ever for FG I believe (maybe not fewest ever but definitely a terrible performance). FG said themselves OK, the Irish people don't want prudent economic policy and they made Enda leader. Cut to 2009 and we have puclic expenditure of over €50bn and receipts fall below €30bn. We are insolvent and go for the bailout because we can't pay our bills.

is_that_so · 14-01-2020 1:25pm

I see Marian Harkin is intending to run in Sligo-Leitrim. That could make it interesting.

marieholmfan · 14-01-2020 1:28pm

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I thought there was a regulation against putting up any posters before the election date has been officially announced. Obviously I was mistaken.

There are such regulations but he used his inside knowledge to give himself an advantage.:mad:

is_that_so · 14-01-2020 1:31pm

tobsey wrote: »

With Michael Noonan as leader FG stated that FF were grossly inflating public spending which was putting the country at risk. The FG manifesto called for a reduction in spending to more sustainable levels. The Irish people wiped the floor with them, returning the fewest seats ever for FG I believe (maybe not fewest ever but definitely a terrible performance). FG said themselves OK, the Irish people don't want prudent economic policy and they made Enda leader. Cut to 2009 and we have puclic expenditure of over €50bn and receipts fall below €30bn. We are insolvent and go for the bailout because we can't pay our bills.

2002 was a bland and waffly manifesto from FG and a poor campaign. Noonan was always a poor choice as leader. Feisty in individual exchanges but not in any way inspirational. FF had a better, more focused approach. They also had the brilliantly simple slogan of "A lot done. More to do".

Cork Boy 53 · 14-01-2020 1:32pm

marieholmfan wrote: »

There are such regulations but he used his inside knowledge to give himself an advantage.:mad:

Did you yourself personally see posters up at the weekend or are you going by second hand stories?

Kermit.de.frog · 14-01-2020 1:45pm

Nick Griffin is quite pious these days for a right wing racist isn't he?

https://twitter.com/NickGriffinBU/status/1217064090834821120

L1011 · 14-01-2020 1:45pm

is_that_so wrote: »

I see Marian Harkin is intending to run in Sligo-Leitrim. That could make it interesting.

Ind or FG? FG were trying to get her ever since she retired. She's held the seat before (well in a precursor constituency)

L1011 · 14-01-2020 1:46pm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Nick Griffin is quite pious these days for a right wing racist isn't he?

https://twitter.com/NickGriffinBU/status/1217064090834821120

Did he have any concerns over the prorogation in the UK? Suspect not

Our constitution not only allows for short campaigns, it actually requires them - the longest possible campaign here is about the length of an average UK on!

hotmail.com · 14-01-2020 1:47pm

is_that_so wrote: »

2002 was a bland and waffly manifesto from FG and a poor campaign. Noonan was always a poor choice as leader. Feisty in individual exchanges but not in any way inspirational. FF had a better, more focused approach. They also had the brilliantly simple slogan of "A lot done. More to do".

FG promised to compensate taxi drivers affected by deregulation in their 2002 manifesto.

It was anything but bland! They were promising anything in order to get back into power.

hotmail.com · 14-01-2020 1:48pm

Finian McGrath getting out. He obviously can't guarantee he'll be re elected.

hotmail.com · 14-01-2020 1:49pm

Leo's posters went up this morning, not at the weekend.

Yes it's breaking the law and he shouldn't do it.

But this nonsense seems to get mileage every election here.

marieholmfan · 14-01-2020 1:51pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

Leo's posters went up this morning, not at the weekend.

Yes it's breaking the law and he shouldn't do it.

But this nonsense seems to get mileage every election here.

That's not what I was told.

is_that_so · 14-01-2020 1:52pm

L1011 wrote: »

Ind or FG? FG were trying to get her ever since she retired. She's held the seat before (well in a precursor constituency)

Independent once again. Yeah I think she'll figure, very good on transfers.

hotmail.com · 14-01-2020 1:52pm

marieholmfan wrote: »

That's not what I was told.

No one cares about this poster stuff.

is_that_so · 14-01-2020 1:53pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

No one cares about this poster stuff.

You do if you're on Twitter.

L1011 · 14-01-2020 1:54pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

Finian McGrath getting out. He obviously can't guarantee he'll be re elected.

As soon as he got the Junior Ministerial seal he wasn't getting re-elected.

hotmail.com · 14-01-2020 1:56pm

is_that_so wrote: »

You do if you're on Twitter.

Twitter gets enraged about anything that's for sure.

Liberta Per Gli Ultra · 14-01-2020 2:02pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

No one cares about this poster stuff.

They do if they block the traffic lights.

Water John · 14-01-2020 2:02pm

I respect that Leo informed the Cabinet not like Bertie.

hotmail.com · 14-01-2020 2:06pm

Will Leo resign as FG leader if FG don't get back into office?

hotmail.com · 14-01-2020 2:08pm

Eventually we'll progress to having elections on Sundays like on the continent.

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