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19-05-2019, 09:05   #331
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I had the pleasure of seeing NPD posters here in my town telling me "Germany for us Germans". Not something you want to be told as a foreigner.
I used to get flyers through my letterbox when I lived there. They made me laugh very loudly. Prize idiots whose support ebbs and flows amongst a very small, very angry but very fickle base.
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19-05-2019, 13:57   #332
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http://www.whichcandidate.ie its got very basic questions
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I don't post (ever) on politics forums, so please go easy on me, I've read a few of the pages back and most of you seen very clued in. I'm an amateur politics fan, so have a big interest in electoral results, and also with predictions. In light of the latter, I've got to say I'm astounded at some of the "polling". It would be important to point out that I've no ties to any political party, or to a politician.
Dublin would be my constituency this time around, whereas previously it would have been Midlands-North-West.

In Dublin, in my opinion there isn't a hope of Lynn Boylan not being elected. The Shinners have canvassed hard, and there support base in Dublin is huge. That the polls would have Barry Andrews - no offence to him- at such at a high percentage compared to Lynn Boylan immediately makes me sceptical. Bar the two bays, there isn't an area of Dublin where Fianna Fail would outvote SF. And the Shinners have been excellent in getting people to turn out to the polls.

Everyone knows Francis Fitz will do well. She's the biggest name on the ballot paper.
She is corrupted to the core MMC and her recent doggy thing.. Yet alone her overphotoshopped posters
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CIE have suspended all advertising for political parties, just as a bus with Irexit branding was about to enter service and days after ACI banners for Gemma O D

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/i...uses-05ndzqjnz

https://twitter.com/IrexitFreedom/st...74725043118080

Differently some meddling going on, Irexit registering as a party was held up as well. It will backfire and everybody knows the advertising on the bus would really help the vote given the narrative.

Meanwhile a Red Sea Poll has thrown up some interesting data.

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/sta...71580091015168

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/sta...65565580693504

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/sta...65562791342080
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Deirdre Clune will be disappointed, a wall of money in posturing and that is all she scores
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19-05-2019, 20:36   #336
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The article in the Irish Times today by Stephen Collins shows again that the urban media don't really understand rural politics.
There's nothing wrong with electing Independent candidates.
In fact, it's a sign of a healthy democracy
Voting Ind in both Euro & locals ðŸ‘
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CIE have suspended all advertising for political parties, just as a bus with Irexit branding was about to enter service and days after ACI banners for Gemma O D
Really dislike their politics. But changing the rules midway through the campaign is taking a position in the campaign. Everyone has a right to run and be judged, and media and campaign plans for spending are set in advance. A company bowing to pressure after the campaign period has launched and deciding to stop certain types of advertising (happened with Google I believe also during the abortion ref) is by its very nature going to then have an impact on the visibility of campaigns that could have spent their money elsewhere. Democracy is like justice, it only works properly when even the most vile types get a fair trial.

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CIE have suspended all advertising for political parties, just as a bus with Irexit branding was about to enter service and days after ACI banners for Gemma O D

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/i...uses-05ndzqjnz

https://twitter.com/IrexitFreedom/st...74725043118080

Differently some meddling going on, Irexit registering as a party was held up as well. It will backfire and everybody knows the advertising on the bus would really help the vote given the narrative.

Meanwhile a Red Sea Poll has thrown up some interesting data.

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/sta...71580091015168

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/sta...65565580693504

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/sta...65562791342080
Hermann Kelly is a clown...take back our borders!
No to the EU!
Registered address.....Brussels....lol.
How is he polling? I am guessing he is in the others?

I think the Irexit registering delay was to do with them not completing the paperwork?....or is it the illuminati cabal that are working against Gemma ODoherty at it again?
I have been seeing the Gemma O Doherty buses for a good while..so not days after being put up.
The real question should be who is paying for these?
Who is paying for the Irexit movement?
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...mate-1.3844811

The sooner they ban posters and advertising the better.

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I agree. It's time political advertising was seriously curtailed. If people want to be informed they should go to the websites of the various parties themselves and read their manifestos before voting. Buzzword one line posters are a joke, regardless of the party or cause. A list of all candidates websites could be listed on a central website. It's just too easy to sway people with utter garbage these days.
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I agree. It's time political advertising was seriously curtailed. If people want to be informed they should go to the websites of the various parties themselves and read their manifestos before voting. Buzzword one line posters are a joke, regardless of the party or cause. A list of all candidates websites could be listed on a central website. It's just too easy to sway people with utter garbage these days.
I think in France they don't allow any posters etc.
There is a board in one area and each candidate is allowed one poster, that makes sense to me.
As you say the people stances can be found online as well.
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I agree. It's time political advertising was seriously curtailed. If people want to be informed they should go to the websites of the various parties themselves and read their manifestos before voting. Buzzword one line posters are a joke, regardless of the party or cause. A list of all candidates websites could be listed on a central website. It's just too easy to sway people with utter garbage these days.
I actually agree. But doing it with a week left in the campaign on particular platforms is not the right way to do it.
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The real question should be who is paying for these?
Who is paying for the Irexit movement?
The lads at the @IrexitP twitter have done some digging on these questions.
It's at least as bad as you'd imagine.

https://medium.com/@irexitparody/bri...d-1e863cea0267
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The lads at the @IrexitP twitter have done some digging on these questions.
It's at least as bad as you'd imagine.

https://medium.com/@irexitparody/bri...d-1e863cea0267
Fascinating. I wonder does Carole Cadwalladr know about this too. They are not even very good at covering their tracks. No real Irish person would ever use that logo on the Munitir na hEireann website.
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The lads at the @IrexitP twitter have done some digging on these questions.
It's at least as bad as you'd imagine.

https://medium.com/@irexitparody/bri...d-1e863cea0267
Yikes.....that doesn't seem dodgy at all does it! Very worrying.
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CIE have suspended all advertising for political parties, just as a bus with Irexit branding was about to enter service and days after ACI banners for Gemma O D

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/i...uses-05ndzqjnz

https://twitter.com/IrexitFreedom/st...74725043118080

Differently some meddling going on, Irexit registering as a party was held up as well. It will backfire and everybody knows the advertising on the bus would really help the vote given the narrative.

Meanwhile a Red Sea Poll has thrown up some interesting data.

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/sta...71580091015168

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/sta...65565580693504

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/sta...65562791342080

Interesting polls that should lead to an interesting election count.

Midlands North-West: 4 seats: Quota 20%

McGuinness on 27 will be elected first count with a surplus. Said surplus will then be distributed. If half goes to Walsh, she is neck-and neck with Carthy after second count.

There are 5 candidates - Carthy, Walsh, Flanagan, Casey, Smith - probably in that order after the second count - for the three seats. While Smith is behind, he has the advantage of a running mate. This will be interesting.

Dublin: 4 seats: Quota 20%

Fitzgerald will get in, but there aren't enough FG votes to elect Durkan as well. I think Cuffe will pick enough transfers to get in as well, with Boylan and Andrews favourite for the last. However, even a small swing to Daly from Boylan could see her get in as she is more transfer-friendly than SF.


South: 5 seats: Quota 16.6%

If FG had run 2 candidates, they would have got two seats. Kelly is certain, but second seat is at serious risk. FF seem to have their candidate split working and could take two seats. Ni Riada is close enough to the quota and won't miss out, even given SF's transfer toxicity. Last seat between Greens, Wallace and second FG.
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