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Fertilizer Value

  • 03-03-2020 11:39pm
    #1
    Smallglass
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭


    Which is better value for silage ground,20-2-12+3 Sul @ €300 or 24-2.5-10 @ €345? Tia


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  • #2
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Smallglass wrote: »
    Which is better value for silage ground,20-2-12+3 Sul @ €300 or 24-2.5-10 @ €345? Tia

    Is there any other option
    I’d prefer more P


  • #3
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Smallglass wrote: »
    Which is better value for silage ground,20-2-12+3 Sul @ €300 or 24-2.5-10 @ €345? Tia

    So if can is around 220 a ton and mop is 350 a ton and 18 6 12 is 320 a ton - you’ll need all three of these to work out how much value each is

    So start on n- 220 a ton for 27 units- 220/27 equals 8.15 for each unit of n
    K is 350 a ton for 50 units so 350/50equals. 7 euro for each unit
    No take 18-6-12 at 320 a ton- 18 units is worth 146.7 and 12 units of k is worth 84 so add these two together 146.7 and 84 equals 230.7- if 18-6-12 is 320 a ton then 320-230.7 equals 89.3- which is the value of 6 units of p- therefor 1 unit of p it worth 15 euro

    Sulphar usuals cost 5euro per per 3 units


    So to work out the street value of compounds multiply each figure by the value of each unit
    So 20-2-12 plus sulphar is 163+ 30 + 84 + 5= 282 worth of fertilizer

    24-2.5-10 equals 195+ 37.5 + 70 = 302.5
    Both figures are below there actual cost but which is closer- the 20-2-12 is better value than the 24.2.5.10 but actually 18-6-12 is better value than both


  • #4
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,124 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    For silage K be going 18-6-12 if you have no slurry 5 bags/acre. If you have slurry if you are spreading 3k gallons/ acre 60-70kgs of urea will only be required

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #5
    _Brian
    Registered Users Posts: 18,468 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    For silage K be going 18-6-12 if you have no slurry 5 bags/acre. If you have slurry if you are spreading 3k gallons/ acre 60-70kgs of urea will only be required

    That’s what we do, not that we spread much bag anyway.

    If slurry is going out then spread can, if no slurry then 18-6-12


  • #6
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭stanflt


    _Brian wrote: »
    That’s what we do, not that we spread much bag anyway.

    If slurry is going out then spread can, if no slurry then 18-6-12

    We go with 5000 gals slurry 3 bags 0-7-30 1 bag of mop 110 units n and 15 units sulphar- 4-5 cuts a year


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  • #7
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭stanflt


    stanflt wrote: »
    We go with 5000 gals slurry 3 bags 0-7-30 1 bag of mop 110 units n and 15 units sulphar- 4-5 cuts a year

    Maintenance then after first cut


  • #8
    Smallglass
    Registered Users Posts: 23 ✭Smallglass


    stanflt wrote: »
    So if can is around 220 a ton and mop is 350 a ton and 18 6 12 is 320 a ton - you’ll need all three of these to work out how much value each is

    So start on n- 220 a ton for 27 units- 220/27 equals 8.15 for each unit of n
    K is 350 a ton for 50 units so 350/50equals. 7 euro for each unit
    No take 18-6-12 at 320 a ton- 18 units is worth 146.7 and 12 units of k is worth 84 so add these two together 146.7 and 84 equals 230.7- if 18-6-12 is 320 a ton then 320-230.7 equals 89.3- which is the value of 6 units of p- therefor 1 unit of p it worth 15 euro

    Sulphar usuals cost 5euro per per 3 units


    So to work out the street value of compounds multiply each figure by the value of each unit
    So 20-2-12 plus sulphar is 163+ 30 + 84 + 5= 282 worth of fertilizer

    24-2.5-10 equals 195+ 37.5 + 70 = 302.5
    Both figures are below there actual cost but which is closer- the 20-2-12 is better value than the 24.2.5.10 but actually 18-6-12 is better value than both

    Thanks for that informative post!


  • #9
    MfMan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,360 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Any stir in prices, up or down? Though oil is weakening at the moment, I don't think it follows through to fertiliser for a long time?


  • #10
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,124 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    MfMan wrote: »
    Any stir in prices, up or down? Though oil is weakening at the moment, I don't think it follows through to fertiliser for a long time?

    Demand will jump over next 3-4 weeks hard to see prices slackening before June.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #11
    Waternotsoda
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Waternotsoda


    How much is urea? 10-10-20?

    What is mop?


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  • #12
    MfMan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,360 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Priced CAN at €245 in a couple of places, also Urea, Pasture Sward, 18-6-12 all at €345. Galway area.


  • #13
    Waternotsoda
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Waternotsoda


    Connaught Gold
    18 6 12 €350
    10 10 20 €370
    Gran lime €175
    UREA €350


  • #14
    red bull
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭red bull


    28 2.5 5 +5s+ca +mg €330
    25 2.5 10 +4s €340
    Urea €330


  • #15
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,201 ✭✭✭tanko


    Some crazy prices being quoted here.

    18-6-12 €315
    Cut 24.2.5.10 €315
    Pasture €310
    CAN €215
    Slurry balancer €285

    For small quantities.


  • #16
    Waternotsoda
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭Waternotsoda


    tanko wrote: »
    Some crazy prices being quoted here.

    18-6-12 €315
    Cut 24.2.5.10 €315
    Pasture €310
    CAN €215
    Slurry balancer €285

    For small quantities.

    What neck of the woods are you in? I think i'm being overcharged.


  • #17
    stanflt
    Registered Users Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭stanflt


    tanko wrote: »
    Some crazy prices being quoted here.

    18-6-12 €315
    Cut 24.2.5.10 €315
    Pasture €310
    CAN €215
    Slurry balancer €285

    For small quantities.


    I’ve seen prices 25-45 a ton cheaper than that


  • #18
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,201 ✭✭✭tanko


    Waternotsoda wrote: »
    What neck of the woods are you in? I think i'm being overcharged.

    Cavan. Shop around would be my advice.


  • #19
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,201 ✭✭✭tanko


    stanflt wrote: »
    I’ve seen prices 25-45 a ton cheaper than that

    Can you say where?


  • #20
    Limestone Cowboy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    18-6-12 330/ton delivered on account.


  • #21
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,542 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    tanko wrote: »
    Some crazy prices being quoted here.

    18-6-12 €315
    Cut 24.2.5.10 €315
    Pasture €310
    CAN €215
    Slurry balancer €285

    For small quantities.

    Small bags delivered?


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  • #22
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,201 ✭✭✭tanko


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Small bags delivered?

    I asked about big bags delivered, don't know if small are different prices,


  • #23
    rushvalley
    Registered Users Posts: 426 ✭✭rushvalley


    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    18-6-12 330/ton delivered on account.

    Who's that from?


  • #24
    Bleating Lamb
    Registered Users Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    tanko wrote: »
    I asked about big bags delivered, don't know if small are different prices,

    Most farm supply places charge an extra fiver or tenner a tonne per tonne in small bags.


  • #25
    Bleating Lamb
    Registered Users Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    Waternotsoda wrote: »
    Connaught Gold
    18 6 12 €350
    10 10 20 €370
    Gran lime €175
    UREA €350
    tanko wrote: »
    Some crazy prices being quoted here.

    18-6-12 €315
    Cut 24.2.5.10 €315
    Pasture €310
    CAN €215
    Slurry balancer €285

    For small quantities.

    Some differences in prices there lads....what part of country are ye in....I am in North Leitrim and priced 3 tonne of 18:6:12 in small bags yday and was quoted 335 a tonne on account.
    Some value at 315!.....is that cash on delivery?

    Just a quick question to the folks who are knowlegeable on Fert spreading queries,am thinking of putting out 18:6:12 on some grazing ground on Saturday,soil and air temps always colder up here in NW than sunny South East for eg.
    Is it a bit early yet for spreading 18:6:12?....my understanding is it would be out over a week before it would start to work at all so even if its cold for a while next week its as far on to have it out anyway?

    Thanks for any feedback lads and look after yourselves during these trying times.


  • #26
    kk.man
    Registered Users Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭kk.man


    320 18.6.12
    360 10.10.20

    Big bags collected cash.


  • #27
    memorystick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭memorystick


    €345 for Pasture Squart + Sulphur. That’s delivered and fix up for spreading then.


  • #28
    Limestone Cowboy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    rushvalley wrote: »
    Who's that from?

    Liffeys.


  • #29
    josephsoap
    Registered Users Posts: 647 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    Any prices on 18-6-12 + S ?


  • #30
    memorystick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭memorystick


    tanko wrote: »
    Can you say where?

    Well


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  • #31
    Bleating Lamb
    Registered Users Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    Bleating Lamb wrote: »
    Some differences in prices there lads....what part of country are ye in....I am in North Leitrim and priced 3 tonne of 18:6:12 in small bags yday and was quoted 335 a tonne on account.
    Some value at 315!.....is that cash on delivery?

    Just a quick question to the folks who are knowlegeable on Fert spreading queries,am thinking of putting out 18:6:12 on some grazing ground on Saturday,soil and air temps always colder up here in NW than sunny South East for eg.
    Is it a bit early yet for spreading 18:6:12?....my understanding is it would be out over a week before it would start to work at all so even if its cold for a while next week its as far on to have it out anyway?

    Thanks for any feedback lads and look after yourselves during these trying times.

    Just bumping this lads - appreciate thoughts on spreading 18-6-12 at mo?....was out around 6am here and was frost on grass but not that fierce cold.
    Thanks for any replies this evening folks.


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