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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 legend44


    Thanks for that, my GP has now referred me to Dr Murtagh. I didn't realise the waiting list would be so long. I was hoping to start a masters next week but I deferred it until September because I don't think I would of succeeded studying online, whatever chance I would have at face to face classes. So hopefully I can get it an appointment before September.

    I really don't have the messy, untidy traits that most people with ADHD seem to present. I am quite tidy and in a lot of cases I search for perfection and this leads to me getting overwhelmed and not doing the task at all. Can anyone else relate to this?



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,208 ✭✭✭✭recode the site


    When I was a baby and young child I hardly ever slept, and although intelligent and creative, found it very hard to focus on anything at school, and right to this very dat. I can be all over the place and at time hyper-reactive to situations. My late mother believed I most definitely was a case of ADHD as she had never quite known a child like me, and in very positive ways too I might add. I find stressful situations, especially other people’s situations, very hard to cope with, although I have coped well with my own serious illness in the past, which is now cured.

    Can I get away with anything if I pay the piper, so to speak?



  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    My mother-in-law suspects she has it or that she had it as a child at least and her house is always spotless.



  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse



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  • Registered Users Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Anyone have experience of Anger Management therapys ?

    Coming out from a massive break up months after getting my Austism diagnosis , mentally tired atm

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    Anyone have experience with Dr Seán Ó Domhnaill? Considered getting an assessment in his clinic but not much information to be found online.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 706 ✭✭✭SATSUMA


    Hello all just to say there are other psychiatrists that carry out assessments. I think I waited about a month to be seen...

    https://adhdireland.ie/general-information/adhd-irelands-list-of-clinicians/#adults



  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    Who did you go to, if you don’t mind me asking and were you happy with them?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 -Ava-


    Argh sorry, first time posting and just figuring out how to quote and stuff. Looks like responses can't be removed 🙈



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 -Ava-


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5 -Ava-



    Hi! I just posted a response on him, would not recommend him at all, see explanation I guess just above this response?



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 -Ava-



    I signed up to reply to your post! I'm currently patient with him and he's probably the worst psych or doctor in general I've ever seen and I'm only still patient, because it's next to impossible to find someone else who specialises in adult ADHD and doesn't insist on doing a new assessment that'll cost me another 700ish (Dr. Murtagh for example won't treat me without doing a new assessment).


    To the reasons why he's not recommended:

    - highly unreliable

    Like: being late for appointments or not showing up (remote)

    - not sending prescriptions in time, even with 2-3 weeks notice

    - loves to talk about himself and what a great doctor he is (during the appointment you pay a lot of money for)

    -doesn't listen and speaks over you

    - believes Concerta is the only medication that works


    He insisted I travel from the South up to Dublin for a review appointment which could have been done over the phone and spent most of the time talking about himself. I'm patient since last June and still not at the right medication dose, even though I keep telling him.


    So rather check the ADHD Ireland website for consultants and get on one of their waiting lists. There's probably a reason why he isn't listed there. Good luck for your daughter!



  • Registered Users Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Are taking Valium for a few weeks worth it ? Feeling extremely stressed atm with a lot going on

    I have a fear about taking medications after putting on a serious amount of wait a few years ago after been prescribed



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 59,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Discuss with gp and be closely monitored as they are some of the most addictive things out there. Useful in controlled environments with strict guidance..



  • Registered Users Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Have no trust with GP advice after been prescribed 'Risperidone' which really messed me up

    That was through the public mental system which is a mess at times



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 59,697 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Do you have your own gp not attached to mental health services?. Tbh doctors not very free about prescribing valium and it's ilk anymore freely..



  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭BK92


    I was about to contact Dr Murtagh’s clinic about why they had me down for a new assessment as I only requested a consultation and specifically mentioned that I already had been diagnosed by a different psychologist !

    The psychologist who diagnosed me has a working relationship with a GP. It seems like a win-win because she only charges €50 a consultation and will do it over the phone with a few hours notice.

    The reason why I got referred to Dr Murtagh by a different GP is that she is only fine with prescribing Concerta, a bit like what has been mentioned above. When I mentioned Tyvense to her, she said she had never heard of it before. For the past 3 months I have been trying to convince her to prescribe me Strattera, Tyvense has worked wonders for me but I still have difficulties with emotional regulation. Last month, I pressed her on it and she said that Strattera would ‘react’ with the Tyvense. It’s thought that one might make the other slightly less effective but overall, combination therapy shows great potential.

    Now, I’m very happy that I’m going to see Dr Murtagh but … the waiting list … and then the few weeks for him to write a report … and then to have to arrange another appointment with him to finally talk about my emotional regulation issues …



  • Registered Users Posts: 5 -Ava-


    I think Tyvense is not listed as adhd medication in Ireland, but to stop smoking. That may be why.


    I paid 650 for my assessment the first time with a psychologist, because my previous psychiatrist doesn't do them and told me she can only prescribe stimulants with an official diagnosis. So if course I'm a bit reluctant paying another 650 :/

    Tried Strattera before, but it didn't work for me. Maybe because she never adjusted the dose. Titration was non present in general, that's why I moved to a psych who specialises in ADHD.

    Did well on Equasym (which apparently was an alternative for the psych), but needed a dose adjustment and for some reason he moved me to a higher dose of Concerta instead. Trying to get back on Equasym for the past 2 months now, but for one I have to run after them constantly to get my prescriptions and then it's again for Concerta.

    On the waiting list with myclinic at the moment as they said they would accept the diagnosis and I just need the initial consultation. They said it'll be July until they make new appointments.


    Quite frankly it's shocking how hard it is made for people who struggle with organising and staying on top of things. Very frustrating and disheartening.



  • Registered Users Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Feu


    Lisdexamfetamine (aka tyvanse, elvanse, vyvanse) is licensed for use for children, same as methylphenidate. Both are prescribed "off label" for adults. Some people find they prefer tyvanse, it has a less speedy feel than ritalin. This brief segment on Trinity website actually explains the main medications used here fairly well.

    As you've said Ava, there is an awful irony in the difficulty getting ADHD treatment here for those with executive functioning difficulties. Access to life changing assessments and treatments should not be so difficult to access, but i think its a reflection of our crappy health system. If you have the money, you can go private - private psychiatrist, private psychologist, private OT - but even that's not a "system", you have to organise all that yourself. And if you don't have the money, you just wait, and wait, and wait.



  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    My understanding is that you need a diagnosis to get medication. Why can’t your psychiatrist diagnose you now? You don’t need a childhood diagnosis but you do need to have had symptoms as a child (whether they were recognised as ADHD at the time or not)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭RossGeller


    To get stimulant drugs such as Ritalin,Concerta,etc,.. you need an official ADHD diagnosis.

    There's an antidepressant called Effexor. It is also used to treat ADHD. Your Psychiatrist or GP can prescribe this for you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 37,717 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Be very careful with Anti Depressents

    From my experience its very possible you could balloon in weight if you don't take the necessary steps



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 kalsam1975


    Hi all,

    Had my assessment for ADHD and psychologist told me that he couldnt diagnose me as of yet because I present with 3 co morbid conditions, Clinical Depression, Borderline Personality Disorder and ADHD. To be honest after thinking about it I felt a little devasated, had I been given an extra 30 or so minutes I feel that the BPD question could have been dealt with. I have significant trauma in my life, a lot of it, much of it brought on by my impuslive non consequence focused decision making that has made my life up to now a complete and total car crash. I am 47 years old and I do think yes I am depressed, I am after all medicated for depression and I disclosed this in the prescreening, the psychologist said he would need to work with me for approx another 6 sessions to see what was causing me the most distress- right now I feel like I am banging my head off a wall watching my life float by without me actually taking part in it. I have gorgeous kids and all I want to do is feel ok, but I am suffering with crippling exhaustion, it is not that I am disinterested in doing things, it is that I am not awake, I slept from 11 to 5pm today, I batch cook when up so that i least I can get my kids fed and I do engage with them but i want more. I dont know what to do next. psych said he would contact my doc to change my meds, I cant even get near my doctor due to covid, everything is hard and I am feeling worse and worse every single day and feel no one gives a **** and I could just be left to languish here in my misery with my kids paying the price....the sessions with the psych are 155 a session!!!! I have a first class honours degreee and a Masters with a qualification in teaching and I cannot work becuase I cant stay awake I dont know how I am going to find this money or how I am going to get this sorted, I just want to feel ok, to be able to do things, what can i do?



  • Registered Users Posts: 3 kalsam1975


    Could I go to my doctor and ask them to switch me to this from the SSRI I am on?



  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭RossGeller




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    Hi,

    Has anyone any experience using Zak Powers at the Bergin clinic?

    Have an assement at the end of the month over zoom, and filled in a few forms already, mostly ticking the box 1-4 on how you feel.

    When he completes the assessment he refers me onto a psychiatrist (if needed) who comes up with a treatment plan, but I need a doctor onboard who will write me the prescription in the long run.

    his cost is 300

    psychiatrist is 340 (if needed)

    A lot cheaper than any other places ive seen



  • Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭houseyhouse


    Does anybody have experience of getting therapy to deal with the emotional fall out of discovering you may have ADHD? I’m realising that I’ve spent my life thinking of myself as lazy, selfish, unmotivated, unworthy. It doesn’t matter that I “have it all” from the outside: a career, degree, house, marriage, kids. I’m always trying to prove something to myself. Now I think it might have to do with all the times I was told I needed to try harder, that I was wasting my potential, that I was a disappointment to the adults in my life. I would like to work through all this with somebody who understands ADHD. Had anybody done this? Did it help? I would really like to like myself.



  • Registered Users Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Feu


    Many people i know have both relief and grief following diagnosis. Obviously relief that there is an answer - something at last explains why things have been so difficult for me, but that in itself can cause anger and grief - why did no one notice, why didn't I have help, I could have done x y or z if i had help. Its really common.

    Thriving Autistic are doing a lot of post diagnosis work with people. (despite the name, they work with anyone who might have dyslexia/dyspraxia/ADHD/autism or might be exploring that). There are therapists, OTs, speech therapists, coaches and they all are neurodivergent themselves, so they've all been there, Well worth looking in to.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭BK92


    Things getting more difficult for me at the moment. Financially speaking, I just can't afford €165 for meds and getting a prescription every month with the increase in fuel and electricity prices and have had to resort to more 'natural' and non-medicated ways of dealing with my ADHD. The only bright side is that I am learning of new techniques that I would maybe have been less interested in trying out if I was still on medication.

    Secondly, the Disability Allowance. Refused the first time 2 months ago because I 'could do more training' even though I have a level 8 degree in Business from UL (I can't afford a masters even with the grant - I'd get the 'non-special' rate), because of not being able to justify my means - I have received cash from my parents to pay for my youngest child's OT sessions and I supplied OT receipts. Also, my condition does not affect me enough according to them, even though nearly all my jobs have lasted less than 6 months and were in small businesses my relatives owned. I was let go from all of them. One of the other two jobs was got for me by my mother and the last one was through an 8 month work placement at university. Only my current job (at 30 years of age) at a petrol station I managed to get myself ... if that isn't being affected in the workplace then I don't know what is

    I have read all the DA refusal threads and submitted a fresh application a month ago. Letter from psychiatrist included, my own personal letter with 4 A4 pages talking about how it affects me finding and maintaining employment. I submitted my parents payslips and details for my relatives that gave me the jobs. Still they fired back and asked me about 10 other cash transactions which were from my wife - she prefers to withdraw her money and give it to me. Some I spend on things like kids lunches and diesel, some I lodge in my account. Loads of transactions like that I just can't prove, but that's what they're asking about. My children do not have bank accounts with a debit/credit card, how do I prove that I lodged €250 in birthday money to my account to buy sportswear for my son online ? What's annoying is that on refusal they don't tell you specifically which transactions they do not feel have sufficient justification included, this would help enormously in preparing an appeal.



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