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Have to hang a TV on a plasterboard wall, will this do?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,254 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    salmocab wrote: »
    It’s an extendable arm that’s been spoken about here for the mount.

    And being extendable it means it’s hinged so the wall fitting doesn’t need to be Centered. Personally I’d never use a single arm. I’ve linked to an extendable one previously that I recommend.

    VonHaus 23-55 Inch TV Wall Bracket – Tilt and Swivel Mount for VESA Compatible Screens, 45kg Weight Capacity https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00N50Q66Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_FKXV834FPSJYVVKCK5Y4


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,282 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    ted1 wrote: »
    And being extendable it means it’s hinged so the wall fitting doesn’t need to be Centered. Personally I’d never use a single arm. I’ve linked to an extendable one previously that I recommend

    Sorry I thought the picture you linked to was for W flat fixing


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,020 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    ted1 wrote: »
    And being extendable it means it’s hinged so the wall fitting doesn’t need to be Centered. Personally I’d never use a single arm. I’ve linked to an extendable one previously that I recommend.

    VonHaus 23-55 Inch TV Wall Bracket – Tilt and Swivel Mount for VESA Compatible Screens, 45kg Weight Capacity https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00N50Q66Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_FKXV834FPSJYVVKCK5Y4
    That looks like a good bracket. I've used similar types in commercial projects.
    But the OP said he has a single arm bracket, if he is willing to buy a different bracket, that's an option.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,615 ✭✭✭✭okidoki987


    He said there was no studs in that location, not there there were no studs in the entire wall.

    The fixing points may not land on studs. Aligning them means it’s off centre.

    Spot on.
    As it needed to be in the middle of the wall, it was going to miss any studs.

    OH has now decided she doesn't want it on the original wall as space was too tight for the TV and didn't look great so going to hang it on an wall
    that has plasterboard and brick so much easier.
    Will just use concrete screws which should do the job.
    Thanks for the suggestions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,282 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    okidoki987 wrote: »
    Spot on.
    As it needed to be in the middle of the wall, it was going to miss any studs.

    OH has now decided she doesn't want it on the original wall as space was too tight for the TV and didn't look great so going to hang it on an wall
    that has plasterboard and brick so much easier.
    Will just use concrete screws which should do the job.
    Thanks for the suggestions.

    Well to be honest we’re all in this together now so should all get a say where it goes.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Bonzo Delaney


    okidoki987 wrote: »
    Spot on.
    As it needed to be in the middle of the wall, it was going to miss any studs.

    OH has now decided she doesn't want it on the original wall as space was too tight for the TV and didn't look great so going to hang it on an wall
    that has plasterboard and brick so much easier.
    Will just use concrete screws which should do the job.
    Thanks for the suggestions.

    Typical:rolleyes: 66 posts in and a week of lads scratching their heads, falling out with one another, giving every possible solution to hang a TV bracket on every wall ever built and herself goes and changes her mind in the end.
    They'll never appreciate the hardship we endure for a quiet life :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,254 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    okidoki987 wrote: »
    Spot on.
    As it needed to be in the middle of the wall, it was going to miss any studs.
    .

    Ignoring the part where it’s going on a different wall the above isn’t right.

    The bracket doesn’t need to be in the CENTRE behind the TV. Especially if it’s on a arm. So you can use studs and still have the TV in the middle


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,615 ✭✭✭✭okidoki987


    ted1 wrote: »
    Ignoring the part where it’s going on a different wall the above isn’t right.

    The bracket doesn’t need to be in the CENTRE behind the TV. Especially if it’s on a arm. So you can use studs and still have the TV in the middle

    It's a small wall (30" in total) and TV needs to fold it in after use and because it's between a patio door and window, easiest way to fix it is mid point on the wall so the the TV folds back into the wall and doesn't obstruct the window or Patio doors and fits into the corner.
    Typical 66 posts in and a week of lads scratching their heads, falling out with one another, giving every possible solution to hang a TV bracket on every wall ever built and herself goes and changes her mind in the end.
    They'll never appreciate the hardship we endure for a quiet life

    When it's up and working, I'll pass your thoughts to the OH but if I let her read all the comments/thoughts/suggestions etc on here, my brownie points will be zero. :(.
    Yep, amazing the number of different suggestions from different posters.
    Well to be honest we’re all in this together now so should all get a say where it goes

    I absolutely agree and if I had my way, one of you could put it up for me her :D.


  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭LenWoods


    I've used four blue GripIt fixings to fit a 32" television and bracket to plasterboard wall over two years ago now and it's still there,
    Each blue GripIt is rated to 80kg

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    Here's an example of how they work,
    Flat heat screwdriver push in and twist; to spread the wings at the rear of the plasterboard,

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    Four blue GripIt fixings fitted, rated at 80kg per fixture,

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  • Registered Users Posts: 657 ✭✭✭eusap


    The Key to the Question is the Extending Arm!

    To calculate the weight on the tip of the arm multiple by 5, TV 14kg + Arm 5kg X 5 = 95kg on the tip of the arm. As previously said the fixing will hold but the plasterboard will not, of course this depends on the thickness and how its fixed to the wall.

    Option 1: use a fixed bracket

    Option 2: cut the board and get back to the wall, fix timber to the wall and the bracket to the timber


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,027 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    LenWoods wrote: »
    I've used four blue GripIt fixings to fit a 32" television and bracket to plasterboard wall over two years ago now and it's still there,
    Each blue GripIt is rated to 80kg

    They still rely on the strength of the plasterboard, which isnt 80KG in many, many cases.
    (especially when you install them so close together as in one of your pics! :eek:)

    Any crack or tear in the paper or dampness and the TV is on the floor. (Probably still attached to the bracket which is still attached to the plasterboard, so the fixings didnt fail, the plasterboard wall did)


  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭LenWoods


    GreeBo wrote: »
    They still rely on the strength of the plasterboard, which isnt 80KG in many, many cases.
    (especially when you install them so close together as in one of your pics! :eek:)

    Any crack or tear in the paper or dampness and the TV is on the floor. (Probably still attached to the bracket which is still attached to the plasterboard, so the fixings didnt fail, the plasterboard wall did)

    Valid point, I see what your saying.
    Would be a big job with a stud finder and a Stanley knife to locate the neighbouring Studs, then cut out some plaster to Fit an additional noggin (horizontal section)

    poOWDerlj


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,027 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    LenWoods wrote: »
    Valid point, I see what your saying.
    Would be a big job with a stud finder and a Stanley knife to locate the neighbouring Studs, then cut out some plaster to Fit an additional noggin (horizontal section)

    Its actually not that big of a job tbh, most of the issue with plasterboarding work is trying to blend in the finish, in this case thats not terribly important since its going to be hidden behind a TV.

    In some cases I have just screwed a rectangle of 1/2 or 3/4 inch ply or mdf across two studs (surface mounted) and then painted to match the wall, you can then fix the TV where you want and unless someone is standing beside it they wont even notice, and even then I'd argue that a painted to match piece of timber is no worse than the arm and associated cables.

    In a small alcove/space like the OP has I wouldn't give it a second thought tbh!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    LenWoods wrote: »
    Valid point, I see what your saying.
    Would be a big job with a stud finder and a Stanley knife to locate the neighbouring Studs, then cut out some plaster to Fit an additional noggin (horizontal section)

    poOWDerlj

    small hole and some wire will find the stud in a minute.

    If its still their fair play.

    Would never hang in anything not solid myself


  • Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Fine Cheers


    Will be doing something similar myself this weekend once my bracket arrives from Amazon Spanish Branch.
    Another way of possibly locating studs is check for nail heads in skirting.
    Took me ages to source a bracket that can go around corners:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzkCeu_WEZA
    Timber frame house so will be locating stud also. 32" tv so not mad heavy.
    Did a bigger one for kids and did as previously suggested - small piece of ply to bridge 2 studs, painted in, grand job in bedroom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,020 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    DIY KING wrote: »
    Another way of possibly locating studs is check for nail heads in skirting.

    Not really. The sole plate runs the length of the skirting.
    I guarantee nobody fitting a skirting reaches for a stud finder first


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,365 ✭✭✭DublinDilbert


    Get a strong magnet and go over the wall, it will stick to the nails/screws in the studs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭Aph2016


    Snap toggle bolts


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    I can't believe this thread is still going...


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,027 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    mloc123 wrote: »
    I can't believe this thread is still going...

    just waiting for it to fall off :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,505 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Mellor wrote: »
    Not really. The sole plate runs the length of the skirting.
    I guarantee nobody fitting a skirting reaches for a stud finder first

    why not. its the properway to do it.
    if there is only 1 sole plate then its only 44mm at best and 30mm with some flooring. thats not enough to fix to on its own. you need fixings at the top to hold it in. a magnet is great for finding studs


  • Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭LenWoods


    GreeBo wrote: »
    just waiting for it to fall off :)

    :pac: :pac:

    It's up there four years now:
    I did fit to the beam in another room where possible,


  • Registered Users Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Fine Cheers


    Agreed and it is the way our chippy did it.
    Nail gun into groove on upper part of skirting which would be above the sole plate
    Can't believe this thread is still going........lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭The boarder


    Hi guys.
    Interesting threat!

    I hung our 43 inch TV on a swivel mound back in Dec. This one has 3 screw holes to mount on the wall.

    The wall is plasterboard and concrete behind it. I used a stud finder and found the studs but the seem to be well back from the plaster board. The bracket came with a screw kit and spacifickly for plaster.

    However 3 months on and the tip screw and plug are starting to come away from the wall. The other 2 screws are still solid in the wall.

    Just cansious that it may at some point come crashing down.

    Any ideas how to resolve this with out recking a recently fresh painted wall?

    Pics attached

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭The boarder


    Hi guys.
    Interesting threat!

    I hung our 43 inch TV on a swivel mound back in Dec. This one has 3 screw holes to mount on the wall.

    The wall is plasterboard and concrete behind it. I used a stud finder and found the studs but the seem to be well back from the plaster board. The bracket came with a screw kit and spacifickly for plaster.

    However 3 months on and the tip screw and plug are starting to come away from the wall. The other 2 screws are still solid in the wall.

    Just cansious that it may at some point come crashing down.

    Any ideas how to resolve this with out recking a recently fresh painted wall?

    Pics attached

    Thanks

    Next pic


  • Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭Horusire


    Next pic

    Surely all of the weight is acting on the top screw in that setup? Looks like a terrible design to my uneducated eye.

    You say you found a stud? Why did you put a wall plug into a stud? Is this common or have I been doing it wrong every time?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,254 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Is it an insulated plasterboard? Or how are the studs so far back. If they are far back , where the screws long enough to reach the stud and go into it?
    Looks like you just mounted into the plasterboard.
    What kind is stud finder did you use ? Could it reach the depth ?


    I’m not a fan of single arm brackets


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭FileNotFound


    Next pic

    Sorry but I am confused by your post.

    Is it a stud wall or solid wall?

    Plasterboard might be insulated board, 30mm + insulation.

    Simple solution is screw in bolt 100mm long or as long as needed. Bolt type based on stud or solid.

    My walls all have 52mm insulated plasterboard over a mix of solid and stud walls. All mounts bolted in, I could swing from them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,727 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    It would be useful to know what kind of fitting they supplied for use on the plasterboard.

    As others have said, with the TV extended out from the wall, there's a lot of weight on that top screw. Some of the better plasterboard fixings are rated for surprisingly heavy loads, but when it's all concentrated on a single fixing, the issue is the strength of the plasterboard itself.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭The boarder


    Yeah that makes sence. I think I'll just replace the backet with a better one. Found this one on amazon which looks a better fit. That combined with a specialist raw plug for plaster boards weight rating. should do the trick.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00N50Q66Y/ref=cm_sw_r_fm_apa_fabc_BH18YB5WRNRFC56504NZ

    From this I don't think the single arm brackets work well for my situation. But we live and learn.


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