Ajax wireless alarm system

I saw that folks have gone with HomeSecure for a monitored Ajax installation. I was wondering if anyone got an installer to install unmonitored (same as self-monitored, right?) Ajax?

it seems either I need to install it myself (I don't want to / cannot) or I need to pay for monitoring for 3 years, with no clarity on how things will work once outside the 3-year contract.

https://ajax.systems/where-to-buy/ireland/ only recommends HomeSecure, so been hard to know how to find more options.

I talked to two more security installation companies - only one was ready to install an unmonitored or self-monitored security system - of Visionic.

Coming back to question :) Would anyone have recommendations for installers who install Ajax but not monitored?

Things Mobile Iot sim is pretty good. Jumps to the best available network.

This is a gold mine of a thread, thank you all for your contributions, very insightful.

Just stumbled upon Ajax system as the rest of you have.

I've a few questions if anyone could help?

• MotionProtect Curtain vs. DoorProtect

I have sliding doors to the rear of the property, from what I've read, am I correct in thinking the MotionProtect Curtain is a better solution than attaching DoorProtects to each of the sliding doors? Or should I combine both options?

• DoorProtect on Sash windows

I have dual aspect rooms with timber sash windows in the front and rear of each room, I presume that the best solution here is to attach the DoorProtect sensor to top and bottom rail, so that if either are moved then the link is broken? or is there a more obvious way of setting this up?

• MotionProtect / MotionProtect Plus / CombiProtect Plus usage

Where have people used these? I presume hallways, but have people used them elsewhere in concert with DoorProtect or would GlassProtect and DoorProtect be a better combo?

It seems very easy to go overboard here, spend a fortune on sensors for every window, door and corridor, and set the place up like Fort Knox and then lead to false alarms and too much hassle. I can't see any standard guide to best practice. Any help would be great.

Just came across this thread. Interesting read

What do you do with regards sensors on windows with multiple openings. Some of mine have 4.

Is it a sensor on each or just one on the frame?

It is usually a sensor on each opening. Hopefully another user can comment regarding the range of vibration detection.

Loads of users through out the thread....

Yes you can buy the multi transmitter to wire in old devices such as wired door sensors, shock sensors, PIR. It supports 18 devices and looks user friendly enough.

As far as I'm aware, some sims (like M2M and ioT type) are sms only (and maybe voice though not sure), meaning, if you installed a camera sensor (nore expensive Hub), the image wouldn't send to your phone.

However, -if you have a stable internet connection ...you should be fine. If the signal cuts ...you'll be notified via the app and you can figure it out. If you're internet isn't reliable ...then by all means you could go with a sim. But ...even without any internet OR sim signal your alarm will still go off if triggered - so the deterrent will work, though you wouldn't get notification on your phone. I found using internet only was fine and have had no issues to date.

I've a few questions if anyone could help?      MotionProtect Curtain vs. DoorProtect  

I have sliding doors to the rear of the property, from what I've read, am I correct in thinking the MotionProtect Curtain is a better solution than attaching DoorProtects to each of the sliding doors? Or should I combine both options?     

I went with both, mainly because CurtainProtect is brand new this year and I have my system nearly two years. DoorProtect+ are great at alerting you to open doors and windows as well as impacts from birds or kids playing ball and hitting your window. They also tell you the temperature in the room they are inside.

From a security point of view, both work well in guarding your perimeter. CurtainProtect requires two beams to be broken simultaneously so won't trigger for animals etc. It also requires a good external location to be mounted that isn't blocked by pipes or anything else outside your home. It's not great for the front of your house either unless you have 2 split each side, as it'll trigger whenever you have a visitor to the front door. DoorProtect might be overkill but I figure that if I'm getting a system, I'm covering every opening, since it still works out cheaper than an install from one of the locals (HKC, GSD, etc). The CurtainProtect triggers before any rogue gets close to breaking my windows but in the event that they do, at least Doorprotect will tell me which window/door and it counts as a second notification in my view so prompts me to call the Guards for support rather than risk a false alarm.

DoorProtect on Sash windows 

I have dual aspect rooms with timber sash windows in the front and rear of each room, I presume that the best solution here is to attach the DoorProtect sensor to top and bottom rail, so that if either are moved then the link is broken? or is there a more obvious way of setting this up?    

Yes, top of lower window or bottom work best. Most likely the bottom since you'll need space to be able to move the windows up and down without catching.

MotionProtect / MotionProtect Plus / CombiProtect Plus usage 

Where have people used these? I presume hallways, but have people used them elsewhere in concert with DoorProtect or would GlassProtect and DoorProtect be a better combo?

Yes, areas downstairs or on the landing where there's access via a flat roof. Anywhere that I need a second or third line of notification. I also have one in the garage.

I don't have any GlassProtect but do have CombiProtect, great units though very sensitive. They pick up if you drop a pint glass on the floor!

Apologies, I realise my system may be overkill and my comments are therefore useless...

I meant WiFi (1st sentence) but will leave ‘wife’ as if made me laugh as I re-read post 😅

Works out pretty good value 👍 An outdoor sensor is good also as it prevents a break in in the first place -would depend on property type though! Well done!

Yes, you can set it up like that for night mode … or create scenarios for specific sensors. Basically - no probs there!

Home insurer usually require alarm to be professionally installed, however the savings made on your premium will be offset by the big reduction on alarm/monitoring cost. I’ve seen some vids re setup on pre-wired -you’ll certainly get some help online 👍🙂

The neighbours next door got the Home Secure system fitted. Installer cut all of the wires back tight to the reveals so they can never be used again. Madness! The wiring that was installed is pretty neat too, so we couldn't justify putting in a wireless alarm.

I will be installing it for her. I've installed alarms in the past (Vanderbilt SPC systems). I'm no installer but there are plenty of threads on here giving guidance etc. It's time consuming when you are not used to doing it, but doable nonetheless.

As for the home insurance, I have stated that I don't have home alarm system installed. I think there was €20 in the difference for the premium, so even if PSA installed you are better off not declaring it in case you forget to set it one day and the worst happens.

has anyone come across installers who can do installation only if i buy the ajax system?

i want to make use of the wired option in the house.

i am happy to buy the required stuff based on some of the suggestion in previous post

but im no good in any DIY work. so need help with installation or connections.

im ok to tell home insurance that i dont have alarm as it will not be a professional installation.

Is the deteriorating situation in the Ukraine likely to impact on Ajax alarm systems? Where are their servers located or does it matter?