Elephant & Castle chicken wings? Read first post!

finkaboutit555 · 05-12-2007 12:16am

HAS ANYONE TRIED THE CHICKEN WINGS IN "EDDIE ROCKETS"??

I had them two weeks ago and they are The best I've had in a long time..
The worst I've had is in Spurs in Liffey Valley absolute dirt!!

The best ever can be got in "RACE ROCK" on International Drive in Orlando Florida...B-E-S-T E-V-E-R!!!!

The Second Best are in "BUFFALO WILD WINGS" real Zing off the sauce...It too is on International Drive..

The Third Best is Elephant and Castle Dublin, Although I'm going to NY in Janurary so I'll let you know what they are like..

digitalninja · 23-01-2008 5:47pm

It's hard to believe that still nobody has posted a full recipe including all information on how to make these wings at home.

This thread is full of "yeah havn't tried them but it sounds like they're the same".

The OP asked if anyone knew the recipe.

Ballyman · 24-01-2008 4:37pm

digitalninja wrote: »

It's hard to believe that still nobody has posted a full recipe including all information on how to make these wings at home.

This thread is full of "yeah havn't tried them but it sounds like they're the same".

The OP asked if anyone knew the recipe.

Here you go then, this is as EXACT as I have come across to the E&C wings.

Put a dash of paprika, salt and pepper into a bowl of flour. I dunno how much, a handful ish and mix it all together.

In with the 12 wings and swish around to coat them. Into the fridge then with the bowl of wings for 30 mins. You can carry on without doing this but they don't turn out as crispy. Your call. They should be a little gooey coming out of the fridge.

Into the deep fat fryer at 190 degrees for 12-15 minutes.

While they are frying, put a few glugs of Franks Hot Sauce (see thread for availability) along with 1 slice (say up to 5mm thick) of stork margarine into a pot and heat until all mixed together. You can use the microwave also if you prefer. Keep stirring the mixture while heating.

When the wings are fried crispy then throw them into the bowl with the sauce and stir around to coat them evenly. Eat immediately with cold beer.

Everything else is nonsense and a variation rather than the exact replica.

Note: if you prefer extra heat then a few drops of tobasco into the sauce will help.

digitalninja · 24-01-2008 5:07pm

Ballyman wrote: »

Here you go then, this is as EXACT as I have come across to the E&C wings.

Put a dash of paprika, salt and pepper into a bowl of flour. I dunno how much, a handful ish and mix it all together.

In with the 12 wings and swish around to coat them. Into the fridge then with the bowl of wings for 30 mins. You can carry on without doing this but they don't turn out as crispy. Your call. They should be a little gooey coming out of the fridge.

Into the deep fat fryer at 190 degrees for 12-15 minutes.

While they are frying, put a few glugs of Franks Hot Sauce (see thread for availability) along with 1 slice (say up to 5mm thick) of stork margarine into a pot and heat until all mixed together. You can use the microwave also if you prefer. Keep stirring the mixture while heating.

When the wings are fried crispy then throw them into the bowl with the sauce and stir around to coat them evenly. Eat immediately with cold beer.

Everything else is nonsense and a variation rather than the exact replica.

Note: if you prefer extra heat then a few drops of tobasco into the sauce will help.

You're a legend, thanks.

ven0m · 25-01-2008 11:26am

finkaboutit555 wrote: »

HAS ANYONE TRIED THE CHICKEN WINGS IN "EDDIE ROCKETS"??

I had them two weeks ago and they are The best I've had in a long time..
The worst I've had is in Spurs in Liffey Valley absolute dirt!!

The best ever can be got in "RACE ROCK" on International Drive in Orlando Florida...B-E-S-T E-V-E-R!!!!

The Second Best are in "BUFFALO WILD WINGS" real Zing off the sauce...It too is on International Drive..

The Third Best is Elephant and Castle Dublin, Although I'm going to NY in Janurary so I'll let you know what they are like..

You've obviously never had wings in the Harbormaster ....... sooo good in the words of James Lionel Price ... they make your bollocks tingle ........... that is all.

:::: ven0mous ::::

coffee to go · 15-03-2008 5:23pm

Just bumping this in case there's an update - Anyone seen the evasive Frank's RedHot Sauce in a non-wholesaler's yet?

Would think Fallon & Byrne or similar would have it... Neeeeeeed wiiiiiings.....

CodeMonkey · 17-03-2008 1:30pm

I prefer the wings in Luigi Malones and Harbourmaster to Elephant and Castle. The sauce in E&C is damn tasty but the over fried wings texture ruins it for me. Plus I find it over priced.

Ballyman · 18-03-2008 7:25pm

http://www.americansweets.co.uk/franks-red-hot-sauce-23oz-bottle-1023-p.asp

GregB777 · 23-03-2008 3:51pm

Greetings, everyone!

(I joined this board just to reply to this thread. It's great so many people seem to love chicken wings!)

I actually was born and raised, and now live in Buffalo, New York and have eaten many times at the restaurant where they were invented, called Frank and Theresa's Anchor Bar. (www.AnchorBar.com)

People here know their chicken wings! We take pride in them. We eat them a lot. There are a lot of great chicken wing restaurants here-- they are usually served together with pizza, as in, on a Friday night, "Let's get some pizza and wings." They are usually delivered to your house. (By the way, they are just called "wings" or "chicken wings" here, not "Buffalo Wings.")

Anyway, I thought I'd give some input into the debate here.

The "original" recipe was very simple: Deep fry chicken wings until crispy. Drain them. Mix about equal parts melted butter and Frank's RedHot Sauce in a bowl (ratio to taste). Coat the wings in this sauce. Serve on a plate with a side of bleu cheese dressing as dipping sauce and a bunch of sliced celery sticks.

This is really the only TRUE method for preparing chicken wings.

They always come with bleu cheese dressing and sliced raw celery sticks. Don't ask why. They just do.

Any other method for preparation, or any other sauce, might taste just fine but just aren't they way they were done originally or the way they are still done here in Buffalo.

(They are NOT coated in flour before you fry them! Ugh! This is a TRAVESTY! Ballyman was basically right on the rest of the recipe, but you DO NOT COAT THEM IN FLOUR!)

You must use Frank's. Tabasco is too harsh and just tastes different. To make the wings hotter, you can add extra cayenne pepper to the Frank's.

Here in Buffalo, there are only four ways you can order your chicken wings: mild, medium, hot and barbecue. (Barbecue is NOT the original method, but has been accepted by the population here. Any other flavor besides the original made with Frank's and barbecue is weird and just wrong. Teriyaki? Ginger? Ugh!)

By the way, I'm not trying to be preachy, because other sauces and methods of making wings (ie baking, other flavors) taste fine. But the OP wanted to know the ORIGINAL method, so, as someone who has grown up eating them, I'm trying to help you out!

Viva la Buffalo!
Viva la Eire!

-Greg

GregB777 · 23-03-2008 4:03pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Wings

Wikipedia does it pretty accurately. The only debate is weather to use butter or margarine in the sauce. That is still an open question. One thing is clear: in the traditional method, they are NOT coated in flour. People here in Buffalo would laugh at you if you tried to serve them coated in flour.

bootsy11 · 25-03-2008 9:49pm

finkaboutit555 wrote: »

HAS ANYONE TRIED THE CHICKEN WINGS IN "EDDIE ROCKETS"??

I had them two weeks ago and they are The best I've had in a long time..
The worst I've had is in Spurs in Liffey Valley absolute dirt!!

The best ever can be got in "RACE ROCK" on International Drive in Orlando Florida...B-E-S-T E-V-E-R!!!!

The Second Best are in "BUFFALO WILD WINGS" real Zing off the sauce...It too is on International Drive..

The Third Best is Elephant and Castle Dublin, Although I'm going to NY in Janurary so I'll let you know what they are like..

'The Cheesecake Factory' Boston- takes the biscuit for buffalo wings

Is it possible to get Louisiana hot sauce anywhere in Dublin?

GregB777 · 30-03-2008 5:08pm

Three best wing restaurants in Buffalo:

(1) La Nova. Even Jay Leno gets them sent to him across the country to California!

http://www.pierce-arrow.com/Leno_Visit_2007.htm
http://www.lanova.com/

(2) Duff's
http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Overview.aspx?RefID=3253

(3) Anchor Bar
http://www.buffalowings.com/

Minder · 31-03-2008 2:36pm

GregB777 wrote: »

Three best wing restaurants in Buffalo:

(1) La Nova. Even Jay Leno gets them sent to him across the country to California!

http://www.pierce-arrow.com/Leno_Visit_2007.htm
http://www.lanova.com/

(2) Duff's
http://www.roadfood.com/Reviews/Overview.aspx?RefID=3253

(3) Anchor Bar
http://www.buffalowings.com/

Any of those places serve Caesars? Or is that solely a Canadian thing.

bootsy11 · 31-03-2008 11:41pm

its upsetting that E&C chicken wings get the general consensus of been the best in dublin because they are overpriced and do not stand up to the quality of wings across the atlantic. even dominos, new york do better wings than E&C bar the celery!

Minder · 01-04-2008 5:28pm

bootsy11 wrote: »

'The Cheesecake Factory' Boston- takes the biscuit for buffalo wings

Is it possible to get Louisiana hot sauce anywhere in Dublin?

Franks Redhot sauce available in musgraves in sallynoggin, apparently.

cw girl · 07-04-2008 8:15pm

Minder wrote: »

Franks Redhot sauce available in musgraves in sallynoggin, apparently.

do u need to be a retailer to shop there?

Minder · 08-04-2008 8:33am

cw girl wrote: »

do u need to be a retailer to shop there?

No idea, but it was mentioned earlier in the thread, so I brought it up in answer to the previous question.

giftgrub · 11-04-2008 8:04pm

after reading this thread i was practically climbing the walls in work, in tesco, spotted a bottle of Discovery New York Buffallo Wing Sauce, not so much kick but I added in a little cayene and tabasco.

It was ok but the flavour didnt seem to "stick" to the meat, if you know what i mean?

where can you get Franks? is it whole sale only?

GregB777 · 14-04-2008 6:50pm

Minder wrote: »

Any of those places serve Caesars? Or is that solely a Canadian thing.

What do you mean by Caesars? Do you mean Little Caesar's?

Since I've never heard of it, I'm guessing it must be a Canadian thing... but then again, Buffalo is just across the river from Canada, so it must be a particular part of Canada, since Ive never heard of it before.

GregB777 · 14-04-2008 6:52pm

I personally can get Frank's by driving two blocks to my local grocery store!

However, if you mean "where can I get Frank's in Ireland?" I really have no idea.

Someone else earlier in the thread gave a place, though.

GregB777 · 14-04-2008 6:57pm

giftgrub wrote: »

after reading this thread i was practically climbing the walls in work, in tesco, spotted a bottle of Discovery New York Buffallo Wing Sauce, not so much kick but I added in a little cayene and tabasco.

It was ok but the flavour didnt seem to "stick" to the meat, if you know what i mean?

where can you get Franks? is it whole sale only?

Frank's is pretty mild, too, but has a very distinctive flavor that tabasco doesn't have. It has to do with the aging and a very specific pepper the guy who invented Franks bred himself back 100 years ago or something.

Tabasco will make wings taste a little strange.

GregB777 · 14-04-2008 7:08pm

http://www.musgrave.ie/index.php

Musgraves appears to sell only to restaurants, not to consumers.

However, in europe I think you can mail order it from HERE:

http://www.americansweets.co.uk/franks-red-hot-sauce-163-c.asp

You can also get it on EBAY UK:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230239043281&ih=013&category=14313

So, there you go! Two rather reliable sources where you can get it in Ireland!

GregB777 · 14-04-2008 7:13pm

From that mail order place a 1 gallon bottle (3.7 liter) is 29 pounds, plus 10 pounds shipping to Ireland.

That is a lot of Franks! 3.7 liters!

You can also get smaller bottles. 23 ounce bottle for ten pounds.

giftgrub · 15-04-2008 4:44pm

i caved and have talked a friend in the US to pick some Frank's up and stick it in the post for me.

If i could only find this level of enthusiasm for my work....

lazybum · 15-04-2008 8:03pm

good news for all tesco's now sell franks hot sauce.
am still in shock and for €3.59
i bought 5 bottle's
happy day's

coffee to go · 15-04-2008 8:56pm

lazybum wrote: »

good news for all tesco's now sell franks hot sauce.
am still in shock and for €3.59
i bought 5 bottle's
happy day's

Fallon & Byrne now also stock all THREE kinds of Frank's!!

Hooray!

giftgrub · 16-04-2008 3:27pm

coffee to go wrote: »

Fallon & Byrne now also stock all THREE kinds of Frank's!!

Hooray!

Picked up a bottle of the original sauce this afternoon, i think i'm going to wet myself with excitement

coffee to go · 16-04-2008 6:33pm

lazybum wrote: »

good news for all tesco's now sell franks hot sauce.
am still in shock and for €3.59
i bought 5 bottle's
happy day's

For future reference, which Tesco was this? Was in both Newbridge and Dundrum ones and didn't see any... What size bottle is it, btw. The 12fl oz in F&B is €5-ish. Not that the price matters for such a precious resource!

Now off to buy 10 boxes of wings...

The other question now, does this thread deserve a sticky as it now has reached a climax? Many thanks go to the detective skills of Ballyman, so props to him for his early work.

lazybum · 18-04-2008 4:39pm

clarehall

Ballyman · 20-04-2008 10:08pm

coffee to go wrote: »

For future reference, which Tesco was this? Was in both Newbridge and Dundrum ones and didn't see any... What size bottle is it, btw. The 12fl oz in F&B is €5-ish. Not that the price matters for such a precious resource!

Now off to buy 10 boxes of wings...

The other question now, does this thread deserve a sticky as it now has reached a climax? Many thanks go to the detective skills of Ballyman, so props to him for his early work.

Glad to be of help. Good to see that it's now widely available especially with summer and the BBQ season just around the corner!!

Elephant & Castle chicken wings? Read first post!

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