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Cavan v Dublin Semifinal in Navan?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,068 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Not true. Go on. look it up.

    Anyway, we don't want facts to be getting in the way.

    You mean like the fact the jackeens came out in droves to wave at the famine queen whenever she visited. ;)

    BTW where did you find the breakdown of the source of the Irish in WW1?
    One set of figures I can find is that officially the Irish Memorial Roll lists 4,918 dead from Dublin, Cork is 2,244, Mayo has 720 dead.

    Around 18,900 dead were listed as from what is today ROI.

    These figures don't seem to take into account the emigrated Irish that joined Australian, New Zealand, US or Canadian armies of which there were quite a few.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,573 ✭✭✭ArielAtom


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    Totally misrepresenting the situation.

    Every GAA fan in the country admires this Dublin team.

    There is no animosity towards the players, in the way for example that Tyrone players would have faced in the past.

    Noone is calling it puke football. You cant but admire this team and the individuals in it.

    The issue people have is not with Dublin.

    Its not even with the fact that there is a large gap between Dublin and the rest. We've had that before with Kilkenny 10 years ago and Kerry 40 years ago.

    The issue is - that unlike the previous occasions - it is very difficult to see how the gap is going to close.

    You could see how Tipp or Galway could catch up with Kilkenny. You cant see how Kerry or Mayo can catch up with Dublin, never mind Laois or Westmeath. Dublin had a key player sent off last year and Kerry still couldnt beat them.

    Which makes the All Ireland boring, and makes the Leinster championship totally redundant. This isnt about begrudgery- its about fixing something thats broken.

    Good Post.

    Have you any proposals on how it can be fixed?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    jmayo wrote: »
    You mean like the fact the jackeens came out in droves to wave at the famine queen whenever she visited. ;)

    BTW where did you find the breakdown of the source of the Irish in WW1?
    One set of figures I can find is that officially the Irish Memorial Roll lists 4,918 dead from Dublin, Cork is 2,244, Mayo has 720 dead.

    Around 18,900 dead were listed as from what is today ROI.

    These figures don't seem to take into account the emigrated Irish that joined Australian, New Zealand, US or Canadian armies of which there were quite a few.

    15% of Irish casualties whose county of origin is known were from Dublin.

    You said "most" of those of those outside north were from Dublin. Well they obviously were not.

    The only people who greeted her or any other royals were Unionists. When another Royal visited Dublin in 1903 there were riots and the corporation refused a loyal address. Dublin Corporation was still mostly Parnellites. Parnell who the people of Mayo slandered in 1890.

    Your only Taoiseach by the way was an embarrassing royalist. He was a like a little boy when they came here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    If they played it in Mickey Graham's back garden the likes of you would still find a reason to begrudge Dublin.

    "The Irish always seem to me like a pack of hounds dragging down some noble stag."

    --Goethe
    RoyalCelt wrote: »
    You know that quote includes people from Dublin too or are you not considered Irish?

    You certainly love begrudging an even playing field or even a semplance of fairness.
    EICVD wrote: »
    We do consider ourselves a class above :-D
    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Your only poet went off to get his head blown off in France :)
    jmayo wrote: »
    Ah jaysus Bonnie I wouldn't be opening that can of worms if I was you.
    Most of the ones from Ireland doing the fighting for the British were from Dublin when you leave out the North.
    BTW they didn't have much of a choice as it was often the only way ut of slums.

    Granted people did have choice not to go flag waving for the ould bitch on her trips around Dublin.
    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Not true. Go on. look it up.

    Anyway, we don't want facts to be getting in the way.

    The only ones who might be psyched out by Graham's silliness are his own players and the frothing at the mouth haters who will jump on any anti-Dublin hooteanny.

    If Cavan want the match moved, they can put that request in rather than fight it out on twitter and social media.

    One thing is for certain, nobody in Dublin camp will be paying any of this the slightest attention.

    Despite the fact that a lot of clowns are under the impression that Dublin decide where games are played.
    jmayo wrote: »
    You mean like the fact the jackeens came out in droves to wave at the famine queen whenever she visited. ;)

    BTW where did you find the breakdown of the source of the Irish in WW1?
    One set of figures I can find is that officially the Irish Memorial Roll lists 4,918 dead from Dublin, Cork is 2,244, Mayo has 720 dead.

    Around 18,900 dead were listed as from what is today ROI.

    These figures don't seem to take into account the emigrated Irish that joined Australian, New Zealand, US or Canadian armies of which there were quite a few.
    Bonniedog wrote: »
    15% of Irish casualties whose county of origin is known were from Dublin.

    You said "most" of those of those outside north were from Dublin. Well they obviously were not.

    The only people who greeted her or any other royals were Unionists. When another Royal visited Dublin in 1903 there were riots and the corporation refused a loyal address. Dublin Corporation was still mostly Parnellites. Parnell who the people of Mayo slandered in 1890.

    Your only Taoiseach by the way was an embarrassing royalist. He was a like a little boy when they came here.

    Not entirely sure how an initially light hearted discussion re playing this pending semi final in the same venue as the historical year of 1920 ( outside Croke Park ) has turned into the Poets Corner/whom was more Irish in fighting on the British side in the first world war?

    Please post going forward on topic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Cavan are stupid to play them in CP. stupid.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    doc_17 wrote: »
    Cavan are stupid to play them in CP. stupid.

    Do you think they had a choice in it? It was always going to be played in Croke Park.

    God forbid the GAA might give the golden goose something that could be seen as a slight disadvantage to them.

    The only problem is crowds are now starting to falter so perhaps they will try address the “”financial doping”” that they did in the near future.

    For example, ten years ago a Meath Dublin game could sell out Croke Park as a standalone fixture. The lack of competitiveness means it’s a non event now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭doc_17


    Cavan_King wrote: »
    Do you think they had a choice in it? It was always going to be played in Croke Park.

    God forbid the GAA might give the golden goose something that could be seen as a slight disadvantage to them.

    The only problem is crowds are now starting to falter so perhaps they will try address the “”financial doping”” that they did in the near future.

    For example, ten years ago a Meath Dublin game could sell out Croke Park as a standalone fixture. The lack of competitiveness means it’s a non event now.

    Of course they had a choice. They could have at least asked the question. They could have actually stood up for themselves instead of not even raising a whimper. That’s the way they’ll go down in Croke Park too. But I hope I’m hope I’m wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Doesn't matter if they played the game on the moon Cavan haven't a hope.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,454 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Surely the thread could be locked after Cavans statement? Talk of moving the game from croke park was a complete nonsense to start with

    https://twitter.com/CavanCoBoardGaa/status/1331618413534441476?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭gourcuff


    Doesn't matter if they played the game on the moon Cavan haven't a hope.

    but statistically slightly more of a hope when not playing in the other teams home venue. Isn't that the crux of sport, the home team has a higher win % than the away team...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Mod Note

    As per the Cavan GAA statement the venue for this contest is no longer a matter for discussion at official level.

    Closing the thread as all opinions re same have been offered opportunity to be aired.


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