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13-02-2013, 12:59   #1
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Water park success - would it work here?

http://www.canoekayak.com/canoe/whitewaterparkspsb/

I know it is an old article but I was wondering if it would work in Ireland? Would it generate money because let's be honest it would be the only criteria for getting investment today.
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13-02-2013, 20:55   #2
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It would be nice wouldn't it?

There was a white water course planned for Dundalk along with a ski slope not so long ago. It was refused though.

Fact is, I just don't think it's viable in a country this size and with this climate. Along with our rip off culture, it wouldn't attract the numbers!
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I think it could work. We have had a few international competitions here before, Europa Cup Salmon in 1988, Canoe Polo Europeans in 2003. I am sure there have been others in flat water and possibly playboating. A park like this would help improve kayaking standards in Ireland.

Problem is, we have missed the boat, sorry for the pun, Had we had this built before London 2012, we may have had plenty of paddlers over training before the games. Hopefully Paris will get the games soon and we might get done before then.
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I remember that there were a few spots in Germany that were pretty much grade two and very simple, expanding on fetures already present that worked very well and drew in people. Sort of like taking the Sluice in Dublin and adding a few bits and a decent car park.
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If they could even make a playspot like the inlet gate in Nottingham, it'd be great for paddlers in Ireland.Put it somewhere in the middle of the country and charge a small fee for use. I guarantee it'd be packed every weekend. People will travel if they know for sure that there's a spot working.

There's an awful lot of red tape to get by though which is very discouraging for anyone who genuinely want's to improve paddling standards in this country.
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There's been a few feasibility studies done on building whitewater parks in Ireland over the last 10 years, perhaps someone who was involved would be able to comment further on the findings.
As far as I can remember, there was a study done for one in Limerick and one in Monaghan somewhere I think.

It's worth pointing out that canoeing Ireland have applied for planning permission to do some works at sluice, including a permanent slalom course.
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There's been a few feasibility studies done on building whitewater parks in Ireland over the last 10 years, perhaps someone who was involved would be able to comment further on the findings.
As far as I can remember, there was a study done for one in Limerick and one in Monaghan somewhere I think.

It's worth pointing out that canoeing Ireland have applied for planning permission to do some works at sluice, including a permanent slalom course.
Isn't the budget for that relatively small though? Only 50,000 euro I think it is. Would they get much work done for that amount?
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Isn't the budget for that relatively small though? Only 50,000 euro I think it is. Would they get much work done for that amount?
They would do what was done back in 1987 / 1988, get a load of paddlers and hire an excavator and have the dam closed for a few hours a day. Put some large boulders on the river bed and there you go. The "Wall" running river right after the play hole was built that way for a European Salmon in 1988.
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Yes it would be great, having been at Lee Valley in London and also in Penrith, Sydney, all I could think was how cool it would be if there was a facility like this in Ireland. And yes, I am absolutely sure it would get large numbers, especially at weekends. I dont think our weather would be a factor at all. Kayakers in this country brave the elements every weekend. Maybe I am a bit optimistic, but I think if its run well and also gets revenue from rafting as a corporate activity (as all of the others worldwide appear to do), a whitewater park could at least break even. It would get young people more interested in kayaking too. If I was loaded (im not!), I would invest in something like this without a second thought!

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If they could even make a playspot like the inlet gate in Nottingham, it'd be great for paddlers in Ireland.Put it somewhere in the middle of the country and charge a small fee for use. I guarantee it'd be packed every weekend. People will travel if they know for sure that there's a spot working.

There's an awful lot of red tape to get by though which is very discouraging for anyone who genuinely want's to improve paddling standards in this country.
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Don't forget it would deliver a proper slalom course for people to not only train but be introduced to friendly whitewater.
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