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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    KR 158 is seen waiting for departure time in Belturbet in 1993, before departing for Cavan. The bus was delivered new to CIE in 1985 and passed to Bus Eireann in 1987. At the time the bus was assigned to Dundalk depot but that garage encompasses the smaller depots at Cavan, Drogheda and Monaghan. KR 158 survived into the early-2000s as a school bus before finally being withdrawn.
    In 2020 only Bus Eireann route between Cavan and Monaghan is Expressway route 30. 12/05/1993

    49883782767_aa6024f0aa_c.jpgProvincial Past (16) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    Csalem wrote: »
    Bus Eireann KD 195 is seen arriving into Shannon Airport with a service from Limerick. This was one of 365 double-deckers built here for CIE, along with the KC, KE and KR single-deckers. The KDs operated around Ireland in Dublin, Cork, Limerick and Galway (with seasonal use in Waterford). KD 195 ended its days in Cork and by 1997 was in a scrap yard. 10/04/1990

    A double decker from Limerick to Shannon Airport must have been a slow service, where city buses not limited to 40 MPH back then?

    Also: What happened to the double deckers in Limerick city? I have vague recollection of an accident or something (might be completely wrong!), and they all disappeared for a long time (only returned in the past decade or so). For the '90s I only recall KC's and a lone Volvo doing city services in Limerick, until the low floor buses appeared.

    EDIT: According to a Limerick Leader article, there were no double deckers in Limerick between 1984 and 2016.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    A double decker from Limerick to Shannon Airport must have been a slow service, where city buses not limited to 40 MPH back then?

    Also: What happened to the double deckers in Limerick city? I have vague recollection of an accident or something (might be completely wrong!), and they all disappeared for a long time (only returned in the past decade or so). For the '90s I only recall KC's and a lone Volvo doing city services in Limerick, until the low floor buses appeared.

    EDIT: According to a Limerick Leader article, there were no double deckers in Limerick between 1984 and 2016.

    There were no new double-deckers in Limerick between 1984 and 2016. The Bombardier KD double-deckers lasted in Limerick until around 1995. Bus Eireann in 1990s concentrated on single-deckers in all of the cities. Cork lasted longest with the KDs but they were gone by end of 1999.
    The first new double-deckers Bus Eireann got were the DDs in 2002 but they were mostly for Dublin. It was not until around 2008 when the VWDs arrived did double-deckers start reappearing in Cork, Limerick and Galway again.

    KDs used to often appear on the Limerick to Galway run, which is now route 51.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭kub


    Csalem wrote: »
    There were no new double-deckers in Limerick between 1984 and 2016. The Bombardier KD double-deckers lasted in Limerick until around 1995. Bus Eireann in 1990s concentrated on single-deckers in all of the cities. Cork lasted longest with the KDs but they were gone by end of 1999.
    The first new double-deckers Bus Eireann got were the DDs in 2002 but they were mostly for Dublin. It was not until around 2008 when the VWDs arrived did double-deckers start reappearing in Cork, Limerick and Galway again.

    KDs used to often appear on the Limerick to Galway run, which is now route 51.


    Except for the DD's that were allocated to the P&R at Black Ash, Cork in 2004, route 213.
    Also between an old D Atlantean and OP 1, for sightseeing tours, there was always 1 decker based in Capwell.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,454 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    from Dublin City library archives

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    For this contribution to Provincial Past we are back in Cork. D 727 is seen leaving the bus station while working a service on route 8 to Bishopstown. This bus was delivered new to Cork in 1975 and was withdrawn by Bus Eireann in 1993. The 8 is still running in 2020 as the 208, between Lotabeg and Curraheen. 19/05/1987

    49909986337_eae043e1cc_c.jpgProvincial Past (17) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    For this Provincial Past we are going back to Limerick in 1996 and the unique VNC 1. The bus was a demonstrator that initially went to Dublin. The bus was a Northern Counties Paladin on a Volvo B10M chassis. Arriving in 1993, it was initially trialled with Dublin Bus before moving to Bus Eireann in Limerick. It was withdrawn in the early-2000s. 23/05/1996

    49934868696_09a7b49ee3_c.jpgProvincial Past (18) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 311 ✭✭Geog1234


    Csalem wrote: »
    KR 158 is seen waiting for departure time in Belturbet in 1993, before departing for Cavan. The bus was delivered new to CIE in 1985 and passed to Bus Eireann in 1987. At the time the bus was assigned to Dundalk depot but that garage encompasses the smaller depots at Cavan, Drogheda and Monaghan. KR 158 survived into the early-2000s as a school bus before finally being withdrawn.
    In 2020 only Bus Eireann route between Cavan and Monaghan is Expressway route 30. 12/05/1993

    49883782767_aa6024f0aa_c.jpgProvincial Past (16) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    Particularly enjoyed that photo as remember travelling on that route. If I'm not mistaken the bus would likely have been working the Tuesday-only Bawnboy - Ballyconnell - Cavan service. It left Cavan at 09.00 and departed Bawnboy around 09.50 to return to Cavan. It ended up being numbered route 178 in 1995. Nowadays Leydons provide a local service (route 930) Cavan - Swanlinbar - Enniskillen.
    PS Looking up the date I see it was a Wednesday so it couldn't have been the Bawnboy - am assuming it was the 08.00~ish Belturbet - Cavan schooldays service.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    EVH 7 is seen at Kilkenny railway station in 1986. This bus was one of 15 VanHool Alizees delivered to CIE in 1986. It is painted in Expressway livery but carries the Supabus brand too, which was used on the cross-channel bus services to the United Kingdom. Some passengers are seen transferring to another Expressway service to bring them to their ultimate destination. EVH 7 ended its career in the early-2000s on school services in west Cork. 07/06/1986

    49960725612_b6e297b729_c.jpgProvincial Past (19) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    For this edition of Provincial Past we re going back to 1990 and one of those unusual once-a-week services operated by Bus Eireann. KR 160 is seen in Balbriggan, turning off Chapel Street into Drogheda Street. It is on the Saturday-only 15:45 from Drogheda to Drogheda via Duleek, Ardcath, Garristown, Naul and Balbriggan. There was an opposite direction working in the morning from Drogheda at 10:45. The route can trace its origins back to the GNR(I) and was the weekly "shoppers" bus for the people in those rural villages. The route no longer operates but Local Link route 195 from Ashobourne to Balbriggan serves Garristown and the Naul seven days a week.
    KR 160 was delivered new in 1985 and was still operating out of Dundalk garage in the early-2000s. 09/06/1990

    49984924621_157611a80b_c.jpgProvincial Past (20) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    We go from KR 160 last week to KC 160 this week. This bus was delivered new to Cork in 1985 (and received the registration "UZG 160" but remained in store, and untaxed, until 1989. When it entered service it received a new registration of "89 D 10662". It is seen painted in a special Aer Lingus livery for the shuttle service to Cork Airport, branded as Air Coach (not to be confused with the private operator that started in Dublin in the late 1990s). KC 160 remained in service until around 2001 when it transferred to schools. It subsequently entered preservation, though its current status is unknown. KD 178 is in the background. 16/06/1990

    50009727931_eec7fcb30b_c.jpgProvincial Past (21) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    This week for Provincial Past we are doing a crossover with Throwback Thursday. For that we had KR 11 during its short spell with Dublin Bus. For this we have KR 11 before it went to Dublin Bus. It is seen in Limerick in 1987. The bus had been delivered new to Limerick in 1985 and moved to Dublin in late-1987/early-1988. It returned to Limerick by the end of 1988, but came back with a full width destination, like on the KC-Class (such as on KC 188 in the background). Here KR 11 is seen with its original destination before modification. The bus is also in a hybrid CIE / Bus Eireann livery, the latter having only come into existence in February 1987. KR 11 ended its days as a school bus in Cork, and was in a scrapyard by 2006.
    Current Limerick bus route 303 serves Carew Park and Glenagross. 06/05/1987

    50034559822_7b2d7e14ef_c.jpgProvincial Past (22) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,454 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Slightly unusual photo from Belfast Telegraph archives of the Newry Carlingford bus encountering British vandalism on the road around 1957.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    For this Provincial Past we are going to the north of country to County Donegal in 1985. C 166 is seen in Stranorlar Depot. This was built on the site of the old railway station. It opened as a standard gauge railway in 1863 but was narrow gauge by 1894. The County Donegal Railway closed in 1960 and the tracks were removed. C 166 was delivered new to CIE in 1966. It spent time in Ballina, Galway and Donnybrook (Dublin) before moving to Stranorlar in 1984. It was withdrawn in 1991. 01/07/1985

    50058793991_a86c5535eb_c.jpgProvincial Past (23) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    For this Provincial Past we are heading north-west to Westport. KR 210 is seen in Westport Station with a working to Dooagh on Achill Island in 1996. Technically the bus was based in Ballina depot, but in 1996 it replaced M 127 as the Achill bus, and was out-stationed there. The bus was delivered new in January 1987 and by the early 2000s was based in Kerry on schools duty.
    Achill is served by route 440 from Westport in 2020. 10/07/1996

    50083181638_a9fc4beca5_c.jpgProvincial Past (24) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1998 sees KR 77 in Galway with a service to Salthill. The bus was delivered new in July 1985 and became a school bus in the early-2000s. The bus is in an all-over ad for SuperValu supermarket located in Eyre Square Shopping Centre. 16/07/1998

    50108214538_f87e8fa531_c.jpgProvincial Past (25) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    The 2018 version of that photo:
    44705125895_142b774795_c.jpgVWL 172 Galway 27/10/18 by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1988 sees KE 9 in Parnell Place bus station in Cork. This was one of fifty-two inter city coaches built for CIE by Bombardier in Shannon. KE 9 is on one of the more long distance inter-city journeys, as it waits to depart for London in the United Kingdom. These services were branded Supabus which was replaced later by Eurolines. In more recent times, the Eurolines service from Cork has been operated by Bernard Kavanagh and National Express. 23/07/1988
    KE 9 was delivered new in 1981 and seems to have spent all its life in Cork.

    50133603178_304fb59d32_c.jpgProvincial Past (26) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 368 ✭✭clunked


    Csalem wrote: »
    1988 sees KE 9 in Parnell Place bus station in Cork. This was one of fifty-two inter city coaches built for CIE by Bombardier in Shannon. KE 9 is on one of the more long distance inter-city journeys, as it waits to depart for London in the United Kingdom. These services were branded Supabus which was replaced later by Eurolines. In more recent times, the Eurolines service from Cork has been operated by Bernard Kavanagh and National Express. 23/07/1988
    KE 9 was delivered new in 1981 and seems to have spent all its life in Cork.


    50133603178_304fb59d32_c.jpgProvincial Past (26) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr
    You’d be partially deaf on arrival to London travelling on a KE!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1987 sees D 480 in service in Galway. This was the only member of the class to receive the "Bombardier" city two-tone green livery that was initially applied to members of the KC and KD classes. The bus was repainted around 1985. A variation (with an orange stripe) later became the Dublin Bus livery.
    D 480 was delivered new to Galway in 1973. Bus Eireann assumed responsibility for it from CIE in February 1987 (hence the decals on it). It later moved to Dublin in late-1987 to join the Dublin Bus driver training school, where it received a special red/white livery. 30/07/1987

    50159988527_a315de5674_c.jpgProvincial Past (27) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1990 sees TE 35 loading up Tralee with a service to Rosslare via Killarney and Cork. Today in 2020 this is route 40 in the Expressway network. TE 35 was one of forty buses with Leyland Tiger chassis and Alexander bodywork delivered between 1988 and 1989. The class also introduced this livery for Expressway that was rolled out to other types.
    The TE Class ended their careers on school duties and were withdrawn around 2008. 03/08/1990

    50184706703_53f8135102_c.jpgProvincial Past (28) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1983 sees KD 50 parked in the yard at Galway Station. This bus was based in Limerick and had just completed a trip on the Expressway route from there (which today is route 51/X51). The bus was delivered new in 1981 and lasted until the mid-1990s. 13/08/1983

    50210354258_54b1d140cf_c.jpgProvincial Past (29) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1996 sees KC 180 in Limerick. The bus is operating a service on route 8 to Raheen. The bus was delivered new to Limerick in 1985 and was withdrawn in 2000. The bus is in an all-over ad for Allied Irish Banks. 26/08/1996

    50263914331_6c8abf988c_c.jpgProvincial Past (30) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    At the start of this series I stated that one of the rules would be no photos from Dublin, and instead it would focus on the rest of Ireland. Well, we got as far as Provincial Past (31) for the rule to be broken, but I think this is special enough to justify it.
    1987 sees Bus Eireann's KR 2 at the Janelle Shopping Centre in Finglas. The shopping centre was converted from an old factory and opened in 1987. The anchor tenant was Super Crazy Prices, a division of Quinnsworth. Both were taken over by Tesco in the 1990s. Bus Eireann won the contract to provide a shuttle bus service from Cabra and Blanchardstown to the centre. KR 2 and KR 219 were allocated to the service and received this special livery / all-over ad for it. The service ran until the 1990s (the shopping centre itself was later replaced by Clearwater Centre in the late 1990s / early 2000s), and thus it was one of the rare bus services (albeit contacted) that ran in Dublin city and was operated by Bus Eireann.
    KR 143 also provided a similar service in a similar livery in Wexford town.
    KR 2 was second member of the 226 strong KR class built by GAC Bombardier. It entered service in 1986.
    Finglas, 01/09/1987

    50290460613_a6a698e405_c.jpgProvincial Past (31) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    1992 sees KC 6 in Waterford while operating a service to Browne's Road. KC 6 was delivered new to Waterford in 1983. Between 1992 and 1996 it moved to Galway, and by 1998 was withdrawn in Thurles.
    Currently in 2020 Browne's Road is the terminus for the W4 but previous to 2018 it was for the 603. The Quay, Waterford, 08/09/1992

    50316690511_e6b00622f8_c.jpgProvinical Past (32) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr


  • Registered Users Posts: 368 ✭✭clunked


    No sign of a ticket machine. TPO service??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,553 ✭✭✭Cork Trucker


    Csalem wrote: »
    1992 sees KC 6 in Waterford while operating a service to Browne's Road. KC 6 was delivered new to Waterford in 1983. Between 1992 and 1996 it moved to Galway, and by 1998 was withdrawn in Thurles.
    Currently in 2020 Browne's Road is the terminus for the W4 but previous to 2018 it was for the 603. The Quay, Waterford, 08/09/1992

    50316690511_e6b00622f8_c.jpgProvinical Past (32) by Cathal O'Brien, on Flickr

    It was destined for Cork, both it and KC 5 were transferred to Thurles for collection by Cork, only 5 was collected. I read somewhere that KC5 was against the wall in Waterford and condemned for scrap before being rebuilt in 1997.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Csalem


    clunked wrote: »
    No sign of a ticket machine. TPO service??

    I think there is a ticket machine behind the windscreen wiper, below the passenger's arm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,921 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Csalem wrote: »
    I think there is a ticket machine behind the windscreen wiper, below the passenger's arm.

    That looks like a shopping trolley.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 368 ✭✭clunked


    Csalem wrote: »
    I think there is a ticket machine behind the windscreen wiper, below the passenger's arm.
    Its a stand for an Almex machine but not the machine itself. Funnily enough, Kennelly's had conductors on their buses at this time


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