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10-01-2019, 23:25   #1
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Men's toilet etiquette: what is wrong with so many men?

I think after littering/not caring about the environment this is the societal behaviour in Ireland that annoys me most. I doubt it's unique to Irishmen, but are there any countries where males do not behave like this in toilets? A society of men with toilet manners and toilet etiquette?

The filth. Manky. Horror. Jesus. Mary. Joseph. What way are so many men raised that they urinate on toilet seats and floors and seem wholly incapable of hitting a simple target of water in a toilet bowl? Basic respect.

And then there's the minor matter of flushing the toilet. It's allowed, you know? If you must urinate in a toilet as opposed to at a urinal, could you please wipe the seat (assuming you're too lazy to lift it beforehand) with the toilet paper, or tissue in your pocket if there's no toilet paper, and then flush after you? And, yes, many people like you to put down the toilet lid also. A simple consideration for the next person.

And then there's the excrement. Mother of God. Flush the damn thing quickly if it's too difficult to position your posterior (arse) so that your poop drops into that bowl of water. Use the brush if you lack the technical skill to hit the water. If there's no brush, be creative and save your pee for a stand up to scorch the poo off the sides above the water. And if it's a really big, stinky Blue Whale-sized one, flush immediately - immediately! - before the stink has the time to kill us all. Then worry about the wiping etc.

This problem is particular awful in the huge number of substandard pubs in poorer areas in Dublin and across rural Ireland. It's like the owner doesn't even think twice about ensuring the toilet is checked every day never mind every hour, or that the brown-stained, cracking urinal that's been there with the cracked tiles, endemic fumes and poor ventilation since 1950 is changed. Even in some of Dublin's hugely profitable "legendary" traditional pubs where apparently great pints flow the toilets remain as they would have been in 1950. Cheapskate owners are trying to pass off awful hygiene and comfort standards as "traditional". Is there even a minimum hygiene standard in Irish law for these places? In the soulless superpubs amid the roaring televisions and/or music, the toilets are generally better kept, but that's about their only redeeming feature. Is it not possible for publicans to create pubs with character, tradition and regularly cleaned, well-maintained toilets?

Do the huge number of males who treat toilets in pubs, restaurants, etc like this in 2019 treat the toilets in their own homes like this? It's a matter of basic respect, you barbarous, ignorant arrant troglodytes.

Not much seems to have changed since this review of Irish pubs in 1971 (from 12:58)



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Having worked in hotels, hostels and bars I regret to say that the women's toilets can be worse.
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You have serious mental problems
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I think after littering/not caring about the environment this is the societal behaviour in Ireland that annoys me most. I doubt it's unique to Irishmen, but are there any countries where males do not behave like this in toilets? A society of men with toilet manners and toilet etiquette?

The filth. Manky. Horror. Jesus. Mary. Joseph. What way are so many men raised that they urinate on toilet seats and floors and seem wholly incapable of hitting a simple target of water in a toilet bowl? Basic respect.

And then there's the minor matter of flushing the toilet. It's allowed, you know? If you must urinate in a toilet as opposed to at a urinal, could you please wipe the seat (assuming you're too lazy to lift it beforehand) with the toilet paper, or tissue in your pocket if there's no toilet paper, and then flush after you? And, yes, many people like you to put down the toilet lid also. A simple consideration for the next person.

And then there's the excrement. Mother of God. Flush the damn thing quickly if it's too difficult to position your posterior (arse) so that your poop drops into that bowl of water. Use the brush if you lack the technical skill to hit the water. If there's no brush, be creative and save your pee for a stand up to scorch the poo off the sides above the water. And if it's a really big, stinky Blue Whale-sized one, flush immediately - immediately! - before the stink has the time to kill us all. Then worry about the wiping etc.

This problem is particular awful in the huge number of substandard pubs in poorer areas in Dublin and across rural Ireland. It's like the owner doesn't even think twice about ensuring the toilet is checked every day never mind every hour, or that the brown-stained, cracking urinal that's been there with the cracked tiles, endemic fumes and poor ventilation since 1950 is changed. Even in some of Dublin's hugely profitable "legendary" traditional pubs where apparently great pints flow the toilets remain as they would have been in 1950. Cheapskate owners are trying to pass off awful hygiene and comfort standards as "traditional". Is there even a minimum hygiene standard in Irish law for these places? In the soulless superpubs amid the roaring televisions and/or music, the toilets are generally better kept, but that's about their only redeeming feature. Is it not possible for publicans to create pubs with character, tradition and regularly cleaned, well-maintained toilets?

Do the huge number of males who treat toilets in pubs, restaurants, etc like this in 2019 treat the toilets in their own homes like this? It's a matter of basic respect, you barbarous, ignorant arrant troglodytes.

Not much seems to have changed since this review of Irish pubs in 1971 (from 12:58)



I'd put this more on greedy publicans. They charge damn well enough for each pint that they could at least have the decency to keep a cleaner on standby. Really I think pub toilets should be checked every 30 minutes or so.

I don't think though that fellas after 10 pints are going to be too bothered about keeping a sense of aim in the urinals. It's disgusting, but been drunk makes people sloppy in their thinking and consideration.
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You're taking the piss.
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And then there's the excrement. Mother of God. Flush the damn thing quickly if it's too difficult to position your posterior (arse) so that your poop drops into that bowl of water.
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I'd put this more on greedy publicans. They charge damn well enough for each pint that they could at least have the decency to keep a cleaner on standby. Really I think pub toilets should be checked every 30 minutes or so.

I don't think though that fellas after 10 pints are going to be too bothered about keeping a sense of aim in the urinals. It's disgusting, but been drunk makes people sloppy in their thinking and consideration.
I would have never knew it was the op you were replying, thanks for quoting it.
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This problem is particular awful in the huge number of substandard pubs in poorer areas in Dublin and across rural Ireland.

Do the huge number of males who treat toilets in pubs, restaurants, etc like this in 2019 treat the toilets in their own homes like this? It's a matter of basic respect, you barbarous, ignorant arrant troglodytes.
Not just a problem in Dublin I witnessed the very same when I was in college. I saw a clogged toilet nearly everyday and piss everywhere. I personally think it's due to a lack of respect. Anyone that does it doesn't care if they make the cleaner's life a misery by having to clean up the mess they leave behind. Where as I was thought that you treat the cleaner with the same respect as you would a lecturer or a CEO

You can bet your ass they don't leave the toilet at home in the same state cos they know mammy or daddy would not tolerate it at all.
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Having worked in hotels, hostels and bars I regret to say that the women's toilets can be worse.
Nail on head. I never had to pick bloodied sanitary towels up from the floor of a gents toilets.
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This sounds like a Louise O Neill article!
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Speaking of bad habits, does anyone else spit into the toilet/urinal before peeing?

I have no idea why I do it, it just feels right.
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Having worked in hotels, hostels and bars I regret to say that the women's toilets can be worse.
Back in the day as a young emigrant working in a restaurant, absolutely agree, the ladies were absolutely manky compared to the gents
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Just take a shît before you go to the pub. Then don’t go for a piss until you’ve had at least 6 pints. This stuff isn’t rocket science, pal.
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