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16-12-2018, 13:13   #46
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And if the security were from Westmeath they'd be left at peace?

What a pointless action if ever there was one, the farm is still repossessed, only now some of the locals will be up for arson and violent assault. But sure they showed them.
Some of these security lads have been identified as loyalists and made the point on video to call themselves British. Now if you have any clue about Irish history you can see how that would go down on such a sensitive issue as repossession of a farm.

I am not saying the locals last night did the right thing just that this kind of response was at some stage inevitable.
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At what point did they offer to leave voluntarily?
If they are third generation on the farm its unlikely it was a mortgage that was involved here. The house looked pretty old in the video. Those boys had a long walk home last night...........
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16-12-2018, 13:18   #48
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you need to look at the bigger picture. the government along with all their agriculture agencies actively pushed farmers over the last few years to increase output to meet their 2020 goals. they actively encouraged farmers to go to their banks to get loans to modernise their farms to increase outputs and the banks were encouraged by the government to give away money. then the milk quotas were removed so the price of milk plummeted, the beef industry is monopolised by one beef baron so that market is also now on the floor and as a result of being led up the garden path by the government and all their advisors, farmers are now losing their farms.

the courts are not behaving the way they should be in these evictions and the rule of law is not being followed...but how does an elderly farmer from the middle of nowhere go up against this machine to obtain real justice? just look at what that guy on his farm beside intel in kildare has been put through.

there is a 21st century land grab happening right under our noses and yet most of you still bay for blood taking the bankers sides.
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So its ok for people who dont have Irish Security Licences to come down to Roscommon and assault elderly people.

I dont feel sorry for hired thugs.
What elderly people were assaulted?

I disagree with them giving the job to loyalist yobs but I'd say the reaction would have been similar no matter whom. A lot of people get very angry over being told there are eventually consequences for not paying back what they owe yet continuing to avail of the service.
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you need to look at the bigger picture. the government along with all their agriculture agencies actively pushed farmers over the last few years to increase output to meet their 2020 goals. they actively encouraged farmers to go to their banks to get loans to modernise their farms to increase outputs and the banks were encouraged by the government to give away money. then the milk quotas were removed so the price of milk plummeted, the beef industry is monopolised by one beef baron so that market is also now on the floor and as a result of being led up the garden path by the government and all their advisors, farmers are now losing their farms.

the courts are not behaving the way they should be in these evictions and the rule of law is not being followed...but how does an elderly farmer from the middle of nowhere go up against this machine to obtain real justice? just look at what that guy on his farm beside intel in kildare has been put through.

there is a 21st century land grab happening right under our noses and yet most of you still bay for blood taking the bankers sides.
Government wants bigger more efficient farms and are wiping people out to do it?
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Once it’s not happening in Dublin Fine Gael couldn’t give a toss !
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Some good level-headed and measured responses here.

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They should have been chopped up the minute they came near the property.
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Should be strung from the highest tree & left swinging in the wind to warn off others.
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you need to look at the bigger picture. the government along with all their agriculture agencies actively pushed farmers over the last few years to increase output to meet their 2020 goals. they actively encouraged farmers to go to their banks to get loans to modernise their farms to increase outputs and the banks were encouraged by the government to give away money. then the milk quotas were removed so the price of milk plummeted, the beef industry is monopolised by one beef baron so that market is also now on the floor and as a result of being led up the garden path by the government and all their advisors, farmers are now losing their farms.

the courts are not behaving the way they should be in these evictions and the rule of law is not being followed...but how does an elderly farmer from the middle of nowhere go up against this machine to obtain real justice? just look at what that guy on his farm beside intel in kildare has been put through.

there is a 21st century land grab happening right under our noses and yet most of you still bay for blood taking the bankers sides.


Nobody held a shotgun to someones head and made them take out a loan

Sheer f****ing greed on the part of those who took out loans they couldn't pay
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Some good level-headed and measured responses here.
That's what they deserve. I'm happy with my response.
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Some of these security lads have been identified as loyalists and made the point on video to call themselves British. Now if you have any clue about Irish history you can see how that would go down on such a sensitive issue as repossession of a farm.

I am not saying the locals last night did the right thing just that this kind of response was at some stage inevitable.
Many of the present government of Fine Gael .. Charlie Flanagan etc would identify themselves as British so where’s the big deal ?
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Some good level-headed and measured responses here.
A level head onto the bridge of the nose for those bastards would be a measured response IMO.
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If they are third generation on the farm its unlikely it was a mortgage that was involved here. The house looked pretty old in the video. Those boys had a long walk home last night...........
If they borrowed money against the house or land, then it was a mortgage, regardless of what generation they are.

The bank would have gone through a lengthy process to arrive at this point.
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Many of the present government of Fine Gael .. Charlie Flanagan etc would identify themselves as British so where’s the big deal ?
Why on earth does he identify as British?

Who else does?
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That's what they deserve.
They are in the wrong coming across a border to evict Irish men and women. BUT can you show me where any of these are loyalist paramilitaries- I find it very hard to believe. Also chopping people up really, are you gonna lead the charge.
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