What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Thanks I think, Black Swan. But you need to be corrected as you assume too much and quite incorrectly for that matter. I don't watch Fox News (except on election days, and then I keep switching between FNC and MSNBC), or Breitbart News, or even listen to Trump. I get the vast majority of my news about Trump and the Right from Realclearpolitics.com, allsides.com, 2 conservative news entities, and 2 liberal news entities. I make my decisions and opinions after balancing out what I read from both sides and I enjoy reading how both sides report so differently on current affairs. I dunno... maybe I'm just overeducated and too in tune with all that is going on politically.

An aside... I've recently watched the movies Children of Men, and Snowpiercer. Excellent representations of Orwellian societies. Here is a question for your group. Liberal run urban cities are about the closest thing to Orwellian structure there is here, yet they are almost all hellholes for all but the affluent and about as far from Utopia as you can get here. Why is that?

Amazing... so you support going after Trump so you can get as many of his allies as possible and lock them up for anything that surfaces from their past, or make things up to get them like in Flynn's case and Stone's. Government agencies pick targets they don't like, throw darts, and see what sticks? Man, you would have loved 1930's Germany.

overealous? people died.

719 charged so far. In the US not everyone arrested is charged. So far more arrested. Overzealous is trolling.

Noto needs help.

Trump and all other former US Presidents are not above the law. But we both know the Legislative Branch of the government often works against the president for pure political reasons, the 2 purely political impeachments of Trump are prime examples, and Executive Privilege helps guard from compulsory process of the legislative or judicial branches of the government, and maintains the separation of powers.

I lived through Watergate. The crooks and those who masterminded it should have been arrested. But the spying of the opposing campaigns was nothing new. John F Kennedy was great at it. Nixon was stupid and got caught in the cover-up as he had nothing to do with the break-in. It would have been better for him to have taken the tapes out on the Whitehouse lawn and burned them. Nowadays they just gain FISA warrants to spy on the other campaign by fraudulent means… and get away with it.

 Do you think all the high ranking democrats, included Obama who demanded to be kept abreast of the spying as it happened according to sources, should be prosecuted, for their part in the apparent criminal FISA warrant by lies, deceit, and forgeries to spy on Trump’s campaign?

And there is no similarities between Capone and Nixon investigations to the aids, advisors, and associates of Donald Trump. Ridiculous.

Do you hold the view that BLM protests were nothing really and only for a few overzealous individuals were nothing to even think about?

As in the case of the few overzealous protestors that caused destruction of property in the capital should be prosecuted, the same should have happened with the many BLM and antifa protestors that caused destruction of property and harm from their violent actions.

"But Trump" is not a good look, to signal out Trump supporters while turning a blind eye to similar events. Do you hold there should be equal justice under the law? Do you hold the hundreds of thousand of protestors across American cities that caused injury to police officers and property damage, primarily by BLM and antifa from reports, should ALL be prosecuted like the several hundred on Jan 6? In 2000 the police association noted 2,000 law enforcement officers were injured during those protests.

So you disagree with Trumps depiction of them as a thugs, terrorists and anarchists? If you recall he was calling out governors for not stamping out the portestors. What of course you wanted him to do was simply accept that some of them get a bit overzealous but mainly they are not a problem!

I'll say it again... those that caused destruction of property and engaged in violence should be prosecuted!!!!! Yes, I would say those that were at ALL the protests including the one on Jan 6, that were simply not where they should have been and did not participate in violence or destruction of property, should not be prosecuted.

The vast majority of protestors on Jan 6 were not attempting to overturn the election results. They only wanted their voices heard by their 'representatives" in government. Suggesting otherwise is quite silly.

I am not annoyed by your referring to Jan 6. I'm annoyed at the blatant hypocrisy of most here because it's Trump.

Voices heard about what? What exactly did they want to talk to their reps about? They had their voices heard at the ballot box, and lost. But since they didn't accept that they wanted even more time to discuss it?

And what did they expect to gain from their voices being heard? Wasn't going to change the outcome.

They didn't want their voices heard, they wanted to get their own way. They had been convinced by Trump that the election was stolen. If ones accepts that that is what they believe, then it really isn't unreasonable that they would won't the fraud stopped and the real winner, ie Trump, declared.

Isn't that what was really going on? Trump had told them that the election had been stolen, that indeed their voice had been silenced. So they went to the capital to correct the injustice.

The other alternative is they didn't believe the election was stolen, in which case what exactly did they want to voice to their their reps?

Trump, in his speech told them to go to the Capital to “peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” From all accounts they wanted their Representatives to hear them that they though certifying the election was premature at this point because of all the problems and suspect behavior dealing with the election.