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13-02-2020, 10:41   #481
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Hi PTH,


please see below. these are up to date. PLease let us know if you have any specific questions



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i've spent a bit of time ringing around, and here's where we're at. I've included the autism bit and where combined are available, that i know of. And waiting list, where they've told me. I've just included Dublin, as i've not had time to ring around further than that, and i know that Dublin may be a good option regardless of where you are in the country

Any Questions give me a shout


Adult ADHD Assessment:

• Seek a referral to HSE Community Adult Mental Health Team through GP [Public – wait list indefinite]

Clinical Psychology – Thorough Assessment – No medication prescribed
• Arduna Counselling and Psychotherapy Centre (01) 833 2733 http://www.arduna.ie/adhd-assessments.html Initial €100, €895 (+ €500 if cognitive needed) [2-3 months waiting list]
http://www.adultandchildtherapy.ie/contact-us/ ~€950 [1-2 months waiting list]
https://www.theinsightcentre.ie/price-list/ €1000 [1-2 months waiting list]

Psychiatry – Assessment & medication can be prescribed
• Bergin Psychological Services (psychology & Psychiatry) 01-670 5016. Wicklow Street, Dublin Two appointments ~€360 total (may be additional for BP/ECG). [1 month waiting list]
• Dr Saleem Tareen, Belfast, 00442895 212294: £300, £300, £100 [total £700] 00442895 212294 [GP referral only] [1-2 months waiting list]
• Dr Saleem Tareen, Belfast, 00442895 212294: Combined ADHD & Autism Assessment: £1500 [GP referral only] [1-2 months waiting list]
• Dr Stephanie Bourke – Blackrock Clinic 2-3 appointments ~€500 [1 year waiting list]
• Saint John of God Hospital Out Patient Services, Stillorgan, Co Dublin Tel: 01 2771400


Adult ASD Assessment:

• Seek a referral to HSE Community Adult Mental Health Team through GP [Public – wait list indefinite]


• Bergin Psychological Services (Psychology & Psychiatry) 01-670 5016. Wicklow Street, Dublin Two appointments ~€360 total [1 month waiting list]
• Dr. Eimer Philbin Bowman: Ballsbridge, Dublin 4. T: +353 (01) 668-1108 (Mon/Tue) Diagnostic assessment for adults ONLY not previously diagnosed: [2-3 months waiting list]
http://www.adultandchildtherapy.ie/contact-us/ Clinical Psychology ~€1500 [1-2 months waiting list]
• Dr Saleem Tareen, Belfast, 00442895 212294: £1200 [1-2 months waiting list]
• Dr Saleem Tareen, Belfast, 00442895 212294: Combined ADHD & Autism Assessment: £1500 [GP referral only] [1-2 months waiting list]
• Arduna Counselling and Psychotherapy Centre (01) 833 2733 http://www.arduna.ie/adhd-assessments.html Initial €100, then €1100 [2-3 months waiting list]
https://www.theinsightcentre.ie/price-list/ €950 [1-2 months waiting list]
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Not having much joy in the public mental health service of getting a proper diagnosis. All that is happening is getting appointments every few weeks and be told take these and you be ok (I won't take medication)

Im 30 now and just want a plain answer what I suffer from and then i can take it from there etc

Private may be the only way of going about it. Anyone knw about this and what tests/costs etc
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Thanks Feu,
I checked with the Dean Clinic in Cork and they do assessment but the waiting list is long. I'm just wary of Bergin as they are a lot cheaper and there is a short wait time. Could this mean they are not so good?
Anyways, thanks for all the good advice.

Hi Candlestick, happy to hear about the Dean Clinic, as i was told they weren't doing it. I will get back on the phones when i have time!

I have no affiliation with any of the listed groups, but these were literally the only places i could find that would do assessment/diagnosis. As I said, i don't know anyone that has come through Bergin (Zak powers), but would be happy to hear from anyone that has!

I would say though that in my experience, cost does not necessarily correlate with quality in relation to assessment or intervention. There can be a high cost to see someone who doesn't provide thorough intervention, or even have a good understanding of ADHD
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please see below. these are up to date. PLease let us know if you have any specific questions
Theres one in Waterford

http://lighthousepsychology.ie/autism-assessments/

Anyone use them before ??
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Hi everyone,

I've had a read through this thread and it's been very helpful. Basically, I was hoping to get some advice - bear with me as this might be a bit long!

I'm in my late 20s and in college at the moment. This is my third attempt at college; I've never lasted this long in a course before so that's definitely a positive, but I'm really struggling at the moment. I don't have any issue with the intellectual side of the subjects I do - I can grasp the material just fine, but I really, really struggle when it comes to managing my time, focusing for concerted periods of time, and in general managing the workload. It's only now that I've actually managed to stick college out for a while that I've realised that this has always been my issue. Even when I was in school, I always felt like I had the potential to do so much, and to do really well in exams (I didn't do badly in school per se, but I definitely got lower results in exams etc. than I felt I was capable of). I always just assumed that I was lazy and unmotivated, despite actually being motivated in the sense that I had things I wanted to achieve that I felt were 100% within my capabilities, and really did try my best to do them.

Now that I've been in college again for a couple of years, I've started to realise that my issues in education aren't for want of trying or lack of ability. As I've said, I don't struggle with the intellectual side of things, it's the preparation and execution that get me. I can spend all my time planning stuff meticulously, but I just can't follow a timetable or a study/work plan. I'm finding that I cannot balance my job with college. My job is very flexible in that I can work from home, and to a degree at my own pace - without going into too much detail, I basically get a bunch of work to do when they need me to do it, and have to have it back by a certain date. I find that the two main issues I have around balancing college work and work work are that I cannot do both things at once - one takes precedence to the other's detriment - and I also cannot manage my time at all. For example, if there's any extra work going, I'll happily take on what I think will take maybe five hours to do, but it could end up taking me 20+ hours. Similarly, with assignments and exams, I try to allocate time for certain tasks, but a reading that I think will take me 30 mins to do will be more like four hours.

At the start of this academic year in particular, I was struggling a lot. My inability to manage time and follow through on timetables and study plans meant that I was working 40+ hour weeks as well as being in college and dealing with assignments and lectures, and I just couldn't manage. Luckily, my job is somewhat flexible, so although I missed quite a lot of deadlines for returning the work, they were relatively okay with it, thank god. At this time, two separate people - a friend and my partner - both said to me in the same week that they were concerned that I may have ADHD. I'll admit, I didn't know a whole lot about it - when they said it to me, I had that stereotypical idea of a restless, excited child in mind, but when I looked up the symptoms of it in adults and read people's experiences, I literally cried because I identified with it so much. Now, that's obviously not to say that I have it or am self-diagnosing in any way, just that people's experiences really resonated with me.

I suppose this is where the advice bit comes in - I've been under a mental health team for about ten years now, for unrelated issues. Because of this, I see an OT in college who has been very helpful, in that checking in every couple of weeks gives me the opportunity to reflect on what works and what doesn't work for me (although 99 times out of 100 it's more what doesn't work). We've created study plans together, timetables, lots of practical things like that, but absolutely none of it sticks despite my best efforts. I have brought up my issues with focusing etc. to the psychiatrists in my outpatient clinic numerous times, but it constantly seems to be brushed aside. It doesn't help that I have to see a different doctor every time I go there (I've literally seen my consultant twice in six years). This is a recurring issue - if I mention anything outside of what I have been previously diagnosed with, it is brushed to the side and never really mentioned again. To be quite honest, I'm not even entirely sure what my current diagnoses are - different doctors and psychologists from the same team say different things, and some of them are never mentioned again, so there's certainly an issue with continuity of care there. While I really want to bring this issue up yet again, I don't feel like pushing it because they don't seem to react well to things like that.

I'm not entirely sure pursuing a private assessment would be beneficial after reading a lot of the replies here. I was actually in a private hospital a few years ago which helped me quite a lot, but was discharged back to the local clinic, and it didn't seem to go down well with them - I was immediately taken off all of the medication they had put me on in the hospital and told that they had treated me incorrectly there. I was considering going to my GP (who is an excellent, compassionate doctor) and explaining the situation to him as when I repeated the LC a few years ago I approached him with the same concerns, and asking him to write a letter to my psychiatrist in the hope that he might listen to another professional. Does this seem like a good idea? I'm not entirely sure what else to do, so any advice would be appreciated. I'm not hell-bent on getting a diagnosis or anything; if a professional genuinely thinks that I don't have it and need to find other ways to manage, then that's fine and I'll do that, but I just want to at least rule it out - I don't want it to be a thing where it might be something that I do have, and I'm not getting the necessary helpful treatment.

Sorry for the long post, and thanks for reading if you've managed to get this far! Any advice would be really appreciated.
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Hi everyone,

I've had a read through this thread and it's been very helpful. Basically, I was hoping to get some advice - bear with me as this might be a bit long!

I'm in my late 20s and in college at the moment. This is my third attempt at college; I've never lasted this long in a course before so that's definitely a positive, but I'm really struggling at the moment. I don't have any issue with the intellectual side of the subjects I do - I can grasp the material just fine, but I really, really struggle when it comes to managing my time, focusing for concerted periods of time, and in general managing the workload. It's only now that I've actually managed to stick college out for a while that I've realised that this has always been my issue. Even when I was in school, I always felt like I had the potential to do so much, and to do really well in exams (I didn't do badly in school per se, but I definitely got lower results in exams etc. than I felt I was capable of). I always just assumed that I was lazy and unmotivated, despite actually being motivated in the sense that I had things I wanted to achieve that I felt were 100% within my capabilities, and really did try my best to do them.

Now that I've been in college again for a couple of years, I've started to realise that my issues in education aren't for want of trying or lack of ability. As I've said, I don't struggle with the intellectual side of things, it's the preparation and execution that get me. I can spend all my time planning stuff meticulously, but I just can't follow a timetable or a study/work plan. I'm finding that I cannot balance my job with college. My job is very flexible in that I can work from home, and to a degree at my own pace - without going into too much detail, I basically get a bunch of work to do when they need me to do it, and have to have it back by a certain date. I find that the two main issues I have around balancing college work and work work are that I cannot do both things at once - one takes precedence to the other's detriment - and I also cannot manage my time at all. For example, if there's any extra work going, I'll happily take on what I think will take maybe five hours to do, but it could end up taking me 20+ hours. Similarly, with assignments and exams, I try to allocate time for certain tasks, but a reading that I think will take me 30 mins to do will be more like four hours.

At the start of this academic year in particular, I was struggling a lot. My inability to manage time and follow through on timetables and study plans meant that I was working 40+ hour weeks as well as being in college and dealing with assignments and lectures, and I just couldn't manage. Luckily, my job is somewhat flexible, so although I missed quite a lot of deadlines for returning the work, they were relatively okay with it, thank god. At this time, two separate people - a friend and my partner - both said to me in the same week that they were concerned that I may have ADHD. I'll admit, I didn't know a whole lot about it - when they said it to me, I had that stereotypical idea of a restless, excited child in mind, but when I looked up the symptoms of it in adults and read people's experiences, I literally cried because I identified with it so much. Now, that's obviously not to say that I have it or am self-diagnosing in any way, just that people's experiences really resonated with me.

I suppose this is where the advice bit comes in - I've been under a mental health team for about ten years now, for unrelated issues. Because of this, I see an OT in college who has been very helpful, in that checking in every couple of weeks gives me the opportunity to reflect on what works and what doesn't work for me (although 99 times out of 100 it's more what doesn't work). We've created study plans together, timetables, lots of practical things like that, but absolutely none of it sticks despite my best efforts. I have brought up my issues with focusing etc. to the psychiatrists in my outpatient clinic numerous times, but it constantly seems to be brushed aside. It doesn't help that I have to see a different doctor every time I go there (I've literally seen my consultant twice in six years). This is a recurring issue - if I mention anything outside of what I have been previously diagnosed with, it is brushed to the side and never really mentioned again. To be quite honest, I'm not even entirely sure what my current diagnoses are - different doctors and psychologists from the same team say different things, and some of them are never mentioned again, so there's certainly an issue with continuity of care there. While I really want to bring this issue up yet again, I don't feel like pushing it because they don't seem to react well to things like that.

I'm not entirely sure pursuing a private assessment would be beneficial after reading a lot of the replies here. I was actually in a private hospital a few years ago which helped me quite a lot, but was discharged back to the local clinic, and it didn't seem to go down well with them - I was immediately taken off all of the medication they had put me on in the hospital and told that they had treated me incorrectly there. I was considering going to my GP (who is an excellent, compassionate doctor) and explaining the situation to him as when I repeated the LC a few years ago I approached him with the same concerns, and asking him to write a letter to my psychiatrist in the hope that he might listen to another professional. Does this seem like a good idea? I'm not entirely sure what else to do, so any advice would be appreciated. I'm not hell-bent on getting a diagnosis or anything; if a professional genuinely thinks that I don't have it and need to find other ways to manage, then that's fine and I'll do that, but I just want to at least rule it out - I don't want it to be a thing where it might be something that I do have, and I'm not getting the necessary helpful treatment.

Sorry for the long post, and thanks for reading if you've managed to get this far! Any advice would be really appreciated.
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Yay, I just got my date for an ADHD assessment. I waited two years & going privately. However, I’ve just learned that as part of the assessment I’ll need to nominate a family member to give a historical account.

Ok, so i haven’t said anything to my family about this assessment. I dunno, I feel silly. I’ll especially feel silly if I don’t actually have ADHD. I’m 35...I feel like I flew the nest long ago.

Anyway, currently sorting through my feelings. I dunno why this is a big deal. My family talk about everyone’s business and this is so personal. 😖

Would love advice/insight/motivation/experiences.
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Okay

Two guys (both in late 30s) know from different circles recently got diagnosed, I work in an ASD class so advised them to get tested

They did, after 2 years or so they on the straight and narrow

One is on meds and doing well, the other has s weekly plan and loads of outdoor exercise

So, if I were you I'd explain to your family the craic and be proactive

Nothing to be ashamed of
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Hey

I'm about 99% convinced I have quite severe inattentive ADHD for a whole list of reasons I won't detail here because, let's face it, you'd probably all end up zoning out halfway through and emerge in the middle of a Wikipedia rabbit hole in a few hours. Hah!

Anyway, I had an initial consultation with a clinical psychologist at Arduna a few weeks ago where they advised that I go forward to a full assessment, and I have that assessment coming up in the next couple of weeks. I was told there would be an interview with my family member who was with me at the first appointment and there would be some cognitive tests and more questions and so on, plus some forms to fill in that will be sent to me in advance.

I'm basically just wondering what I should expect in the assessment overall, and in the cognitive tests and how they factor into ADHD. Previous testing has suggested that my IQ is 125+ and I don't think I have any deficits in specific areas (like working memory, though I do forget A LOT on a day-to-day basis). Does that mean I don't have ADHD? Am I basically throwing a significant chunk of cash down the toilet because a high cognitive score will indicate an absence?

Aaaand if high scores on the cognitive test is likely to rule out ADHD, how do I go about finding out what the hell is (and has always been) going on with me?

TIA for responses. Sorry if it's a bit of a ramble!
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Hi all.

I just wanted to update you all on my current situation. Apologies in advance for the large text wall.

I went into deep isolation during the current pandemic and I had felt completely lost. I thought that I was losing my mind and nothing was making sense. I finally took the courage to call my local surgery in July and ask to speak with another doctor. I struggle with expressing myself verbally and forget many details unless I have written a detailed report. I had a 'meltdown' one day during work in a Charity Shop as I had been on the TÚS Scheme and I have been prescribed an SNRI. I am on a trial period as the doctor is now aware of my concerns and has taken it seriously.

I am currently on a waiting list to see an Occupational Therapist to get tested for Dyspraxia. My doctor also knows of my concerns regarding the possibility of having ADHD, OCD and Asperger's / ASD. He has told me that it is extremely difficult to get a diagnosis as an adult. I understand that and in the past two months I have been collating information and documenting my issues from childhood up to the present day.

I have contacted professionals who specialise in adult diagnosis and I am awaiting a response. I am also due to start college this month. It will be my third attempt at studying Computer Systems and Networks Level 6.

If you made it this far thanks for reading.
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I've just secured an initial assessment with Arduna. It took me a lot of courage and I was sweating and pacing while on the phone. I am finally making some progress.
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Apologies for the following text wall, but I feel the need to release tension and I am nervous about my appointment.

I've been feeling chaotic in the past week. I feel that I am experiencing a sense of insanity. I had a consultation with my GP yesterday and he is aware of my current state.

I've been pacing and overanalysing. I have become obsessively occupied with writing a detailed report that I will present at my appointment tomorrow. The final word count is 7,774 which includes experiences, memories and photographs from infancy to the present day, and I am in a mindset where I am afraid that I have missed important details, misrepresented others and have not included certain negative personal experiences I have encountered throughout my life that I feel are important to highlight. I am still taking notes and I feel that I may have repeated myself. I have found myself extensively researching on the various concerns I have and comparing that to my own report. I cannot even remember what I have written in the report or what I have been reading.

I have been procrastinating so much and I have also had found it extremely difficult to focus. I've been heavily distracted on a constant basis and it is as if I cannot relax. I am hoping that I will be able to communicate tomorrow.

If you have read this and have made any sense of it, thank you.
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Haven't read through the thread yet, but I've been 100% certain of my ADHD issues for years on account of my symptoms completely abating when taking any kind of stimulants. Regarding the difficulty of "proving" or "demonstrating" ADHD especially without a family member to give the aforementioned historical account, as silly as this may sound, do ye think it would help my case if I were to document in detail the fact that any time I ever have to take Sudafed for a cold or seasonal sinus issue, my productivity literally increases by a factor of ten? That's what got me turned on to the ADHD issue in the first place - for the longest time I believed I simply had classic depression, but any time I've either taken a preworkout supplement full of stims or a standard 3x daily Sudafed regime for a cold, I end up getting more work done that day than in perhaps a full month preceding it. Honestly I'd just keep doing this intentionally if it weren't for the fact that pseudoephedrine and the new and untested stims they put into preworkout supplements are insanely had for one's cardio health over time where, ironically, the properly tested and documented meds which seem almost impossible to get a script for have far fewer dangerous side effects. Seems ridiculous that one can deal with this issue in a dangerous and risky manner so much more easily than dealing with it the safe but insanely difficult to access route, but such is life!

Can anyone else relate to this? Did anyone else stumble upon ADHD as a result of feeling relief by taking Sudafed or other stimulants for an unrelated issue, and just happen to find that for the first time they could concentrate on one thing all afternoon and tune out the noise? Would recounting this to a doc aid in getting a referral, and indeed would recounting this to a specialist aid in getting a diagnosis and bypass some of the brick walls people seem to run into with this? As I say, the improvement in my life since I discovered this and started planning a few work days a month around a day of ordinary cold/flu Sudafed use is absolutely immeasurable, but knowing its peripheral side effects I'm obviously terrified of doing that long term.

If family involvement is necessary for such a diagnosis, I'm 100% out of luck I'm afraid. My family don't believe in medication for psychological issues and would 100% not co-operate.
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I was diagnosed 5 years ago and on medication. The meds are a great help on a day to day basis.

My son also has ADHD, I was diagnosed after him.

My biggest worry for him is I suffer from depression as an adult, not just feeling down the occasional day but this is crippling. I'm on meds for that too but it's just like drinking water.

Is anyone else experiencing this and can anyone offer any advice on therapies etc.
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Might be helpful for diagnosis.

https://shiftavl.com/addadhd-avoidan...e%20behaviors.
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I was diagnosed 5 years ago and on medication. The meds are a great help on a day to day basis.

My son also has ADHD, I was diagnosed after him.

My biggest worry for him is I suffer from depression as an adult, not just feeling down the occasional day but this is crippling. I'm on meds for that too but it's just like drinking water.

Is anyone else experiencing this and can anyone offer any advice on therapies etc.
which meds are you on if you don't mind sharing?
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