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02-02-2019, 12:17   #1
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Passport Renewal Witnesses

Who decides what jobs/professions are trustworthy to witness passport application signatures?





I suppose the intention is to make it easier to find someone convenient to witness the signature, but why for example are bank managers considered more trustworthy than farmers?
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02-02-2019, 12:24   #2
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They would be expected to have training on probity and have a full understanding of the consequences of a false action, ie being fired and never capable of being rehired.
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02-02-2019, 12:28   #3
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"Member of the clergy". Do we trust them now?
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No solicitor?

I suppose notary public would be a solicitor.

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02-02-2019, 12:33   #5
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"Member of the clergy". Do we trust them now?
Maybe arguably more so than Guards, Medical Doctors and Elected Representatives, all of whom also feature in the list above.
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They would be expected to have training on probity and have a full understanding of the consequences of a false action, ie being fired and never capable of being rehired.
My job is on that list. I have never been trained in probity. It's kind of insulting to imply that those people are remotely more honest or upright on average than a chippie or a shopkeeper.
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How many people would use a nurse anyway?
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At least some of them are governed by regulatory bodies who would give sanctions if they falsified information.
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At least some of them are governed by regulatory bodies who would give sanctions if they falsified information.
Most of them are also covered by unions that would be all over a sniff of a sanction.
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They're registered with public organisations and have undergone some sort of registration process. The passport office therefore has an independent route to get their details and verify them.

They are also jobs with a public profile and character expectations where being found to have witnessed something untrue could materially impact their career.

The list also covers the people in a community who would know many members of the community meaning that most people should be able to.find someone to vouch for them.
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It's like a list of people I wouldn't trust.
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02-02-2019, 12:50   #12
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I've just renewed my daughters passport and got the form filled out by her preschool teacher. The view I took was that it was somebody in a position of responsibility who would actually know that you were related to that child. I actually considered going into my vets as she knows us well and the opening hours were handier for both of us.



If there was an issue with the legality of the passport then there would be consequences for the person that filled out the form, the bank may issue a manager with a warning or disciplinary action, whereas a farmer is self employed and doesn't technically have to answer to anybody.
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How come 'man/woman in the street, busker, hippy, drug dealer' are not in that list.
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No solicitor?

I suppose notary public would be a solicitor.
A lawyer could be a solicitor?
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I have always called into my bank. Never a problem.
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