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06-11-2014, 16:29   #31
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That deal sounded very good to me yet they voted against it. Those relatives want their cake and eat it.

Don't they know the Country is cash-strapped?
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The point has probably been made many times before. But there's a bit of a contradiction in the way that despite the rebels fighting and dying for a republic, freedom from aristocracy etc. these relatives' claim to authority is the fact they are descended from them.
The personalising of this by relatives is a bit bizarre to me. Whether the area is of historical significance or not has very little to do with anything I have seen the relatives say. Surely a more significant argument can be made for other 1916 sites.
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The point has probably been made many times before. But there's a bit of a contradiction in the way that despite the rebels fighting and dying for a republic, freedom from aristocracy etc. these relatives' claim to authority is the fact they are descended from them.
I agree with your comments on this self appointed relatives group. Schoolyard games such as "My grand da shot more Brits than your grand da"
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13-11-2014, 13:45   #33
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It's truly bizzar. You have the relatives groups claiming they are being ignored in the planning of the 1916 celebrations. Their claim hinges on their belief that their contributions are of any greater significance than the average citizen merely by virtue of their lineage.

If they want to commemorate their grand parents there is nothing preventing them from doing so with their own finances. Let them buy the whole of Moore Street if they can. In the mean time society must move on and end the scourge of dereliction.
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Dublin city Council must be rotten to the core. There are a load of Christmas stalls all trading along Henry Street selling fake perfumes, bags, hats etc.

How is this allowed?
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Dublin city Council must be rotten to the core. There are a load of Christmas stalls all trading along Henry Street selling fake perfumes, bags, hats etc.

How is this allowed?
Hey, there has to be somewhere you can go if you want fake perfumes, bags and hats.
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10-12-2018, 01:13   #36
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Dublin city Council must be rotten to the core. There are a load of Christmas stalls all trading along Henry Street selling fake perfumes, bags, hats etc.

How is this allowed?

There doesn't appear to be any trading standards type people in Ireland, it's basically a free for all.
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10-12-2018, 01:19   #37
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There doesn't appear to be any trading standards type people in Ireland, it's basically a free for all.
Trading standards aren't concerned with intellectual property protection. If the perfume you are selling is corrosive or toxic, tradings standards car; if it's not genuine Chanel No. 5, not so much. If the owners of the Chanel No. 5 branding can't be arsed to defend their brand, why should the taxpayer pay to defend it for them?
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There doesn't appear to be any trading standards type people in Ireland, it's basically a free for all.
I'd imagine the issue is copyright infringement rather than standards, no?
Lett Coco Chanel sue Mary the casual trader if it wants.
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If the owners of the Chanel No. 5 branding can't be arsed to defend their brand, why should the taxpayer pay to defend it for them?
They do defend the brand and spend large amounts in doing so in places where the effort is worthwhile. The perfume is so fake/bad it's not worth the effort, the handbags are the main target. The Gardai are not much bothered, but the contraband cops in Italy and the 'fisc' in France give it priority. Try to pass through Customs in CDG with a fake Chanel bag and it will be confiscated and its contents unceremoniously dumped onto a table - if lucky you will be given a plastic bag to remove the junk. The worst copies come from North Africa, the best from North Korea.
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France has an interest in this because of the scale of their fashion industry. Ireland does not.
When it comes to the law, Ireland is effectively the land of non-enforcement. We don't really have a police force in the pro-active sense, we have a purely reactive set of security guards who spend the majority of time on the national roads checking tax discs or sat in offices falsifying things.

In this country you can openly run a puppy farm and sell on the internet, quite transparently, and never expect any consequences. You can buy or sell hard drugs in broad daylight in the centre of the Capital's mainstreet, nothing will hapen to you. You can even commit acts of violence and theft with little fear of consequences. You can park a car more/less anywhere you like if you turn on your hazards or if it's time for mass. you can drive in bus lanes whenever you like if you own an Audi or even if you don't but think you are a VIP, if you are wealthy enough you can defraud the state of millions, billions even. You can operate illegal brothels at your discretion. You can overstay your visa, no problem. The list goes on and on. The notion that there is spare capacity within law enforcement in this country to protect the revenue of coco chanel is laughable.
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