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  • #122
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 12,996 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    irishproduce wrote: »
    Second item on rte 9pm news. Special correspondent reporting from outside Leinster house.
    Lads, the message is clear. Shut this Lind of thing down immediately and crush any debate on anything that is off message. Grealish would have known he'd be pilloried for saying what he said but did he realise they would have a special correspondent reporting on reaction from outside the dail?

    I don't give give a fùck what he said, do you?

    Rte news seems to think you do

    It was the second top story on the most rated news programme.

    Hardly a strategy to shut the story down.


  • #123
    Jizique
    Registered Users Posts: 1,824 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Bambi wrote: »
    Given that the head lecturer for Sociology out there is the brains behind the SWP its hardly suprising

    No Proper university should have a dept of sociology


  • #124
    jackboy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭jackboy


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    It was the second top story on the most rated news programme.

    Hardly a strategy to shut the story down.

    But they clearly portrayed it as wrong think.


  • #125
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 12,996 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    jackboy wrote: »
    But they clearly portrayed it as wrong think.

    I didn't sense that at all.


  • #126
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,232 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Jizique wrote: »
    No Proper university should have a dept of sociology

    How so?

    Columbia University in NYC seem to differ.


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  • #127
    kildare lad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    The numbers don't add up

    https://gript.ie/is-noel-grealish-right-about-nigerian-immigrants-sending-money-home/


  • #128
    JJayoo
    Registered Users Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Complete speculation from me

    But I would guess The Irish criminals are using Nigerian passport holders to funnel their drug money out of the country.

    Why Nigerian people? well maybe regulations aren't that strict over there.

    The Irish gangsters would recruit Nigerians to send a few hundred euro home every week and that money is then funnelled into another account that is safe and can't be touched by Irish/European authorities.


  • #129
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Those figures are extraordinary. And they would have went unreported if he got a reasonable answer and TDs, NGO, Media didn't throw a hissy fit.

    All Varadkar had to say was we are working with the Garda to address all sorts of money laundering, suspicious transactions etc. Then highlighted cases of where they were successful. Case closed.

    But no, they went PC and everyone is now wondering WTF is up with those figures.


  • #130
    kildare lad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Complete speculation from me

    But I would guess The Irish criminals are using Nigerian passport holders to funnel their drug money out of the country.

    Why Nigerian people? well maybe regulations aren't that strict over there.

    The Irish gangsters would recruit Nigerians to send a few hundred euro home every week and that money is then funnelled into another account that is safe and can't be touched by Irish/European authorities.

    If you were a drug dealer would you trust sending money to Nigeria...lol


  • #131
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,232 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Follow the money.


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  • #132
    JJayoo
    Registered Users Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    kildare lad wrote: »
    If you were a drug dealer would you trust sending money to Nigeria...lol

    Well if the lads family didn't play ball then maybe me and my gangster friends might break his legs :)

    The Nigerian guy, in my hypotical scenerio would also be getting a nominal fee for his cooperation


  • #133
    baldbear
    Registered Users Posts: 5,503 ✭✭✭baldbear


    Lots of money laundering could be the answer.

    I don't have any time for Grealish but there is a possibility criminals are using Nigerians to clean their Ill gotten gains

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/nigerian-gang-linked-to-15m-fraud-target-of-garda-raids-37292029.html


    https://www.rte.ie/amp/1017834


  • #134
    bloopy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭bloopy


    If the figures quoted in this thread and elsewhere are correct, then there is something very odd going on here. The numbers being quoted do seem quite high.

    Anyone with any suggestions why IBEC members seem to be getting involved in this thing?

    https://twitter.com/GerardBrady100/status/1194299139544236032?s=19


  • #135
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    Mark Cagney on Newstalk now reminding us that the Irish sent home money from abroad before

    That certainly was the case but the figures involved were not in the same league as what is going back to Nigeria, if it was a few thousand per family no one would pay a tap of notice but if these figures are correct people have the right to ask questions. On a pretty average wage and living a not extravagant lifestyle, I'm doing well to save about 4k a year.
    Is it's case that 90% of Nigerians are sending back a couple of grand a year and 10% are sending millions back? How are these people earning their money?


  • #136
    kildare lad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Well if the lads family didn't play ball then maybe me and my gangster friends might break his legs :)

    The Nigerian guy, in my hypotical scenerio would also be getting a nominal fee for his cooperation

    Maybe you could be right, 26,000 per Nigerian leaving Ireland during a height of a recession seems a bit odd to me...or is that racist


  • #137
    JJayoo
    Registered Users Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Comparing the figures of 26k for every man woman and child to what the Ir stillish send back is very very bizarre. Wreaks of " oh look how non racist I am, pat me on the back".

    Like no one is saying that Nigerians are you robbing 500m it's the Irish drug king pins


  • #138
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    kildare lad wrote: »
    Maybe you could be right, 26,000 per Nigerian leaving Ireland during a height of a recession seems a bit odd to me...or is that racist

    Well it's racist if you"re Ruth miserable cnut Coppinger.


  • #139
    JJayoo
    Registered Users Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    kildare lad wrote: »
    Maybe you could be right, 26,000 per Nigerian leaving Ireland during a height of a recession seems a bit odd to me...or is that racist

    You are racist scum, those Nigerian children earned that 26k


  • #140
    Dante7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Dante7


    baldbear wrote: »
    Lots of money laundering could be the answer.

    I don't have any time for Grealish but there is a possibility criminals are using Nigerians to clean their Ill gotten gains

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/nigerian-gang-linked-to-15m-fraud-target-of-garda-raids-37292029.html


    https://www.rte.ie/amp/1017834

    That could actually be a very valid explanation for some of the large scale transfers. Investigation is definitely warranted.


  • #141
    JJJJNR
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    Massive amount of fees being paid.


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  • #142
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users Posts: 25,667 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    malinheader wrote: »
    No need to guess. Take a walk round a few sites or other jobs and open your eyes. Where are they . Can't be all driving taxis.

    I know a lot of Africans who are building medical devices and looking after old / disabled people.


  • #143
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    There have already been cases discovered of where Ireland has been a soft touch on filtering funds to ISIS. ISIS are aligned to Boko Haram, who are primarily based in Northern Nigerian.

    ISIS must be trying to bury money, left, right and centre at the moment.


  • #144
    Harvey Weinstein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Complete speculation from me

    But I would guess The Irish criminals are using Nigerian passport holders to funnel their drug money out of the country.

    Why Nigerian people? well maybe regulations aren't that strict over there.

    The Irish gangsters would recruit Nigerians to send a few hundred euro home every week and that money is then funnelled into another account that is safe and can't be touched by Irish/European authorities.

    So its really just Irish criminals at it?
    Are you sure?
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/nigerian-gang-linked-to-15m-fraud-target-of-garda-raids-37292029.html?fbclid=IwAR11QVbWTcOk05eT39eolDL6gh6hy23muB3brccucx2GB0vav41Ohf7Gua8


  • #145
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,415 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    An answer to a written Dail question in October seems to blow Grealish’s figures out of the water. Average remittances to Nigeria in the order of €17 million. Mentioned just now on the Tonight Show.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #146
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    The Satanist wrote: »
    I suspect that Grealish has done his homework and his figures are correct. Why else would he be shot down without his figures being refuted?

    I think you might be right. He had time since Oughterard to check the numbers.


  • #147
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 17,977 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    How can this even be a story? Emigrants have been sending money back to their home countries from richer countries for many decades.

    What do you think all the hard working Filipino people in Ireland are doing? Money laundering and criminality my foot.


  • #148
    Roversfan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭Roversfan1


    Strazdas wrote: »
    How can this even be a story? Emigrants have been sending money back to their home countries from richer countries for many decades.

    What do you think all the hard working Filipino people in Ireland are doing? Money laundering and criminality my foot.

    What's the percentage of Irish of Nigerian descent and Nigerians living in Ireland that are claiming welfare?


  • #149
    Harvey Weinstein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    Ireland was, during the boom years, called the "wild west of finance"
    I suspect nothing has changed and we're probably now the wild west of money laundering..and this is what have got the govt so freaked out.
    I think the accusations of Racism might just be a red herring


  • #150
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    An answer to a written Dail question in October seems to blow Grealish’s figures out of the water. Average remittances to Nigeria in the order of €17 million. Mentioned just now on the Tonight Show.

    But he asked the question and got the answer. He deliberately ignored the Dail response which means he must thing they are a nonsense. How would the Dail get these numbers? I am presuming Western Union and the main banks do not send annual breakdowns to the Dail??


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  • #151
    JJayoo
    Registered Users Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Harvey Weinstein wrote: »
    So its really just Irish criminals at it?
    Are you sure?
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/nigerian-gang-linked-to-15m-fraud-target-of-garda-raids-37292029.html?fbclid=IwAR11QVbWTcOk05eT39eolDL6gh6hy23muB3brccucx2GB0vav41Ohf7Gua8

    When it comes to the drug related crime I would be surprised if any other group operated without some input/payment to the Kinneghans


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