Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all,
Vanilla are planning an update to the site on April 24th (next Wednesday). It is a major PHP8 update which is expected to boost performance across the site. The site will be down from 7pm and it is expected to take about an hour to complete. We appreciate your patience during the update.
Thanks all.

Noel Grealish

12467…41

Comments

  • #92
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Dante7 wrote: »
    Your skin in the game is that you are a virtue signalling, beardy, woke bloke. You have to be seen to be on the right side of every perceived social justice issue, regardless of science, or evidence. You're like a parody.

    Research boss.
    I was responding to a lad thinks people can't be Irish if they are descended from Nigerians.

    Then another lad said Polish immigrants worked, Nigerian ones didn't. I asked for a link, get a distraction, no link, then you came in. So please show me were I'm virtue signalling? :)

    You sound bought and sold into the tin foil hat brotherhood, 'everyone is out to get us!' :)


  • #93
    kildare lad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    Check out this for fraud ,this Nigerian claimed managed to claim 400,000 off the welfare . I'd bet any money a huge percentage of that 3.4 billions is scammed off the welfare .

    https://www.thejournal.ie/court-social-welfare-fraud-3920312-Mar2018/

    More Nigerian fraudsters busted last year aswell

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/nigerian-gang-linked-to-15m-fraud-target-of-garda-raids-37292029.html


  • #94
    keavebm
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭keavebm


    Would suit leo the wanker to look after our homeless instead of the poor of other countrys. Leo is a dick and so is the whole government


  • #95
    lola85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    Sure Leo has been lambasted for suggesting Albanians and Georgians have no business claiming asylum here.

    This country is heading down the toilet bowl rapidly and quicker than most countries.


  • #96
    lola85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    keavebm wrote: »
    Would suit leo the wanker to look after our homeless instead of the poor of other countrys. Leo is a dick and so is the whole government

    21% of the homeless are non EU.

    Would you put them on the streets and look after the Irish homeless?


  • Advertisement
  • #97
    rdwight
    Registered Users Posts: 527 ✭✭✭rdwight


    Leaving aside the borderline racism and accusations of racism in the posts here, does anybody have a plausible explanation for why the level of personal remittances to Nigeria are so much higher than to eg Poland.

    A spreadsheet with a "Bilateral Remittance Matrix" showing flows of personal remittances between countries can be downloaded at https://www.knomad.org/data/remittances?page=9


  • #98
    Victor
    Registered Users Posts: 78,239 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    I wonder how much of this is due to Western Union having their EMEA offices in Dublin.

    Rather than engaging in speculation, if the deputy knows of issues, has he raised them with the Central Bank or Revenue?


  • #99
    rdwight
    Registered Users Posts: 527 ✭✭✭rdwight


    Victor wrote: »
    I wonder how much of this is due to Western Union having their EMEA offices in Dublin.

    Not sure what difference that would make but your post prompted me to look again at spreadsheet at link https://www.knomad.org/data/remittances?page=9

    It seems that personal remittances from Germany to Nigeria are almost identical to amount from Ireland to Nigeria even though there appear to be about four times as many Nigerians in Germany (c80k) as in Ireland ( c20k)


  • #100
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    its the inconsistent relationship between high unemployment and simultaneous high remittances which would have any auditor raising an eyebrow.


  • #101
    rdwight
    Registered Users Posts: 527 ✭✭✭rdwight


    Victor wrote: »
    I wonder how much of this is due to Western Union having their EMEA offices in Dublin.

    Rather than engaging in speculation, if the deputy knows of issues, has he raised them with the Central Bank or Revenue?

    I assume he considers the issue to be the extraordinary level of personal remittances by Nigerians.


  • Advertisement
  • #102
    Harvey Weinstein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein


    rdwight wrote: »
    Leaving aside the borderline racism and accusations of racism in the posts here, does anybody have a plausible explanation for why the level of personal remittances to Nigeria are so much higher than to eg Poland.

    A spreadsheet with a "Bilateral Remittance Matrix" showing flows of personal remittances between countries can be downloaded at https://www.knomad.org/data/remittances?page=9

    Money laundering seems to be the most plausible explanation.


  • #103
    lola85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    Seems Ireland is finally waking up to our immigration and scams that goes with it.

    Took years but about time the conversation is had.


  • #104
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Seems like a fair question to ask, if they have nothing to hide there will be no problem looking into why one group can be sending so much money back and how they are earning it.

    RTE are trying to do a hatchet job on Grealish and Matt Cooper did the same earlier on on his radio show, it's driving them mad that Grealish is just ignoring them.


  • #105
    Wegian
    Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭Wegian


    Harvey Weinstein wrote: »
    Thats whats really (no extremely) worrying about this, the idea that asking a perfectly legitimate question is now 'racist'
    The new Hate Speech laws will make asking this question an offence.

    Never mind the fact that a number of politicians and journalists have asked this very question just a few short years ago with no outcry whatsoever.

    The hate speech laws should make a scurrilous accusation of racism an offense


  • #106
    keavebm
    Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭keavebm


    lola85 wrote:
    21% of the homeless are non EU.

    lola85 wrote:
    Would you put them on the streets and look after the Irish homeless?


    The homeless of the people living in this country. Couldn't care less if there not EU. If Ireland are sending that kind of money abroad a year its a disgrace seen as they cant look after the people in this country. Plus look at the state of our hospitals! Leo and this government are a bunch of clowns and it aint just this government. The next will be the same and so forth


  • #107
    JJayoo
    Registered Users Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Article from 2013


    "NIGERIAN migrants here are now sending nearly half-a-billion euro back home each year. World Bank figures reveal that €468m in 'remittances' was sent from Ireland to Nigeria in 2011. That's an average of more than €26,000 for each of the 17,642 Nigerian nationals in Ireland, including children."

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/nigerians-send-nearly-500m-a-year-home-from-ireland-29278045.html

    So during the recession a family of 4 was sending over 100k back home? New born babies are good workers


  • #108
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,787 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    daheff wrote: »
    His point is valid, if badly made.

    1bn EUR of funds going to any one country annually from private citizens should be audited to ensure its legitimate.


    Other countries implement currency restrictions to prevent large amounts of money being remitted to external countries. Being part of the EUROZone helps prevent this being damaging to the exchange rate, but it is something that should be questioned.

    How do you propose an audit if it is thousands of private transactions?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #109
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Coppinger looked like she was going to burst a blood vessel, Grealish on the other hand remained calm at all times.

    How she even gets one vote is baffling, if I saw that grumpy face coming to my door and spouting hard left crap it would be shut on her fairly lively.


  • #110
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,787 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Harvey Weinstein wrote: »
    Thats whats really (no extremely) worrying about this, the idea that asking a perfectly legitimate question is now 'racist'
    The new Hate Speech laws will make asking this question an offence.

    Never mind the fact that a number of politicians and journalists have asked this very question just a few short years ago with no outcry whatsoever.

    Ridiculous nonsense. Asking these questions is not hate speech.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #111
    KWAG2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Ridiculous nonsense. Asking these questions is not hate speech.

    Good to know. I thought the new laws were that if anyone felt hated by a statement it was hate speech?


  • Advertisement
  • #112
    kildare lad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Article from 2013


    "NIGERIAN migrants here are now sending nearly half-a-billion euro back home each year. World Bank figures reveal that €468m in 'remittances' was sent from Ireland to Nigeria in 2011. That's an average of more than €26,000 for each of the 17,642 Nigerian nationals in Ireland, including children."

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/nigerians-send-nearly-500m-a-year-home-from-ireland-29278045.html

    So during the recession a family of 4 was sending over 100k back home? New born babies are good workers

    That's mental, you wouldn't have to be Sherlock Holmes to guess there's a fiddle going on there. We really are a soft touch. I was on the sick last year for a few months due to complications with a bowel disease I have , all I got of the social was 140 euro a week . And then you've people who werent even born here or ever paid little or no tax getting everything handed to them on a plate . Great country we live in , I'm glad someone had the balls to call them out .


  • #113
    lola85
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Seems like a fair question to ask, if they have nothing to hide there will be no problem looking into why one group can be sending so much money back and how they are earning it.

    RTE are trying to do a hatchet job on Grealish and Matt Cooper did the same earlier on on his radio show, it's driving them mad that Grealish is just ignoring them.

    Matt Cooper is a left wing champagne socialist stealing a living.

    Terrible presenter.


  • #114
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    That graceless, uncouth little ruffian from Dublin screaming him down was quite obnoxious in her sanctimony. It's like she sensed an emotional high from taking the high moral ground and couldn't resist turning into an irrational, unhinged mess. She just had to explode to restore some equilibrium to her mind. The sort of "walking on eggshells" personality most people try to avoid in workplaces and in families across the country.

    Actually, she was quite like those "anti-fascists" who used to shout down debate in UCD years ago, but who were actually very fascistic in their approach to free speech.

    I think Varadkar was correct in his historical contextualisation, but Grealish should have been allowed to highlight this and be tackled rationally without the emotionally disturbed sorts and their default emotion-based responses impeding our enlightenment of an issue once again. That tactic has been played to the death.


  • #115
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Deleted User wrote: »

    Actually, she was quite like those "anti-fascists" who used to shout down debate in UCD years ago, but who were actually very fascistic in their approach to free speech.

    Given that the head lecturer for Sociology out there is the brains behind the SWP its hardly suprising


  • #116
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Ah look, another thread for the gullible fools to vent.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • #117
    BrianBoru00
    Registered Users Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭BrianBoru00


    Faugheen wrote: »
    This. Irish people abroad send money home as well.

    Funnily enough the same ‘concerned citizens’ are up in arms over this.

    If they’re working and paying tax then what they do with their money is their business.

    Serious question. Do you know what Noel Grealishs question was?

    Leo seems to have the same selective hearing as yourself.
    Quick figures -Polish people send about €2000 per year back to the "old country", Lithuania 3 grand ish.. UK 2600, France 13k

    USA 7000 approx, Brazl 1500...

    I've based those figures on CSO for population and KNOMAD.org for remittane figures (as suggested by the world bank)

    Nigerias corresponding figure??

    €59,000

    It would want to be one hell of a gerrymandered graph for that not to jump out.
    Grealishs articulation may let him down but his question should have been answered without Leo resorting to another anecdote and not actually addressing the question that was asked


  • #118
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users Posts: 13,505 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    The sight you will witness in the next few days if the extraordinary facts of this emerge, that's the media dancing as fast as they can


  • #119
    irishproduce
    Registered Users Posts: 2,803 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Second item on rte 9pm news. Special correspondent reporting from outside Leinster house.
    Lads, the message is clear. Shut this Lind of thing down immediately and crush any debate on anything that is off message. Grealish would have known he'd be pilloried for saying what he said but did he realise they would have a special correspondent reporting on reaction from outside the dail?

    I don't give give a fùck what he said, do you?

    Rte news seems to think you do


  • #120
    The Satanist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 693 ✭✭✭The Satanist


    I suspect that Grealish has done his homework and his figures are correct. Why else would he be shot down without his figures being refuted?


  • Advertisement
  • #121
    Roversfan1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭Roversfan1


    Leo and RTE playing the man and not the ball as usual


Advertisement