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EA UFC 4

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  • #122
    Axwell
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Fighter base I plan to go BJJ and boxing..best combination of ground and stand up ways to finish the fight for me which I prefer to have..although the progression and learning moves might influence that more this time around and make you really have to focus on one of them to become any way proficient as a fighter. Probably go LW first time around for the same reasons as yourself.

    For a true career experience I want and hope that you can start at the bottom and do backyard to WFA..win the title and defend it before being head hunted for a UFC contract and then move up the ranks there. It would at least mean a decent lenght to the career mode too hopefully and some variety.


  • #123
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,478 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Game informer article about career, nothing majorly new, says it's your choice to leak the sparring tape.

    Also they mention you can do Dana White contender series where as in ufc 3, it was Dana White looking for a fight. Had me in stitches :pac:

    https://www.gameinformer.com/preview/2020/07/30/ufc-4s-career-mode-puts-the-choices-in-your-hands?amp&__twitter_impression=true


  • #124
    stephenl15
    Registered Users Posts: 5,885 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    Career mode seems amazing! Will probably go wrestler boxer maybe! Might try a submission specialist in a second playthrough. Only definite downside is not being able to see full cards, results of each fight and how it affects the overall rankings
    Unfortunately, despite the simulation mechanics taking place, they aren't surfaced to you in a fight-by-fight capacity, so you'll have to keep your eyes on the movement in the rankings if you want to keep your finger on the pulse of what's happening in your division beyond your own career.


  • #125
    Zero-Cool
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    Career lead Raman Bassi replied to my question. So, backyard/kumite is not part of career mode. Everyone starts in the amateur message where Davis discovers you and brings you through it until you get an option to go wfa or dcws. Then in your 2nd career, you can pick a real fighter or caf and go straight to ufc if you choose.

    https://twitter.com/RamanBassi/status/1288985927453257731?s=19


  • #126
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,478 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Backyard fighting gameplay. Presentation looks class, pity there are rounds though, should be 1 open round til finish.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZGEXCtREP4


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  • #127
    Zero-Cool
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    Lots of content dropping. Fighter creator and start of career mode.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGnDYtItD2A


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyvLAPn-25I


  • #128
    Zero-Cool
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    This is excellent, shows the 5 fight styles and all 12 archetypes with their stats and perks. Will be going through this properly later to find my build.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hdVDgr7inM


  • #129
    Axwell
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    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Career lead Raman Bassi replied to my question. So, backyard/kumite is not part of career mode. Everyone starts in the amateur message where Davis discovers you and brings you through it until you get an option to go wfa or dcws. Then in your 2nd career, you can pick a real fighter or caf and go straight to ufc if you choose.

    https://twitter.com/RamanBassi/status/1288985927453257731?s=19

    That's a bit disappointing but in watching the other video about backyard I guess it makes sense since its standup only.

    Watched some of the career video but didnt want to spoil it for myself too much - one bit that made me laugh was when he is doing the initial fight and he shouts "There's this thing where you clinch now"..made me facepalm..assume he means the clinch is different but the way he said it made him sound like a complete noob.

    The fight styles stuff does look cool, first impressions are I like the way they have implemented it and will make it interesting. I'm sure as with everything some stuff will be OP but hopefully they make an effort this year to bring out relevant patches and updates to balance and improve things along the way.

    I think between career and then the backyard brawl and blitz battles I can see myself getting enough value for money out of it. Blitz battles sounds like something I would spend a lot of time doing and the fact they rotate the rules etc should keep it fresh and keep it interesting. I am interested though to see how using the new controls vs classic works out and if it's balanced or you are matched accordingly. Looking forward to it a bit more the last few days, obviously some of it is just hype for a new MMA game and ill probably be back 2 weeks in moaning about how crap a lot of the new stuff is but its got potential at least the more content I see.


  • #130
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,478 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Well that's my main taunt sorted.

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  • #131
    stephenl15
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    This looks so good, really like what they've done with almost everything so far not gonna lie. Career, caf/archetype system. New Star rating system is really really good imo

    I'll probably go for one of the balanced builds, Top Dog the archetype that jumps out to me initially. I'd hate to be completely overmatched in any one area to be honest. Although it has v poor stamina, I do sometimes really enjoy conserving my stamina for later rounds and absolutely destroying someone them, and I rarely use overhands which is one of its top moves. Jabs and hooks all the way. :) Hopefully someone does a write up somewhere so we can easily compare.

    Watched episode 1 of that career mode and a bit of episode 2 but I'm gonna try not to watch anymore so as not to spoil anything.

    Can't wait for it to release now!

    Contemplating going back to 3 to improve my ground game before release as it's more or less the same. I've always been dominated by high level grapplers which is annoying


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  • #132
    Zero-Cool
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    Geoff said the crazy customisation was planned grin the start and he wasn't a fan.

    https://twitter.com/GeoffHarrower/status/1289602825387835393?s=19


  • #133
    How Soon Is Now
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    Looking like this will be a fun game to play with the backyard mode and added stuff for career mode. The main thing for me will be I'm hoping the gameplay improves on the 3rd game. I'll hold out until people get early excess to this and the reviews start coming online.


  • #134
    Zero-Cool
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    Beaming for DC landing the commentary role and now he's the decider of stat increases/decreases after each ppv.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=078Mh48Yf_s


  • #135
    stephenl15
    Registered Users Posts: 5,885 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    Don't go on the Reddit for this game if you're in any way looking forward to it, it's just full of people complaining about EA and the game, completely over the top


  • #136
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,478 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    The majority of reddit want Yukes to make the next game and won't stop going on about undisputed 3 as if it was the holy grail of mma games (i personally enjoyed ea mma more than UD3).

    Yeah, EA went a bit mad on the customisation side and i see more people spending real money on that stuff than they ever did with ultimate team. On the whole, I'm looking forward to it, it looks fun.


  • #137
    stephenl15
    Registered Users Posts: 5,885 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    The majority of reddit want Yukes to make the next game and won't stop going on about undisputed 3 as if it was the holy grail of mma games (i personally enjoyed ea mma more than UD3).

    Yeah, EA went a bit mad on the customisation side and i see more people spending real money on that stuff than they ever did with ultimate team. On the whole, I'm looking forward to it, it looks fun.

    They're overstating the whole customization thing. Yeah it's not for everyone, includng me, but who cares, it's only cosmetic.

    Emotes are getting hate due to the type of people perceived to play Fortnite, but all they are is taunts, which should definitely be in the game unless I'm missing something?

    They could've done more to improve the ground game, but in fairness they had put so much work into it in the series already, they couldn't just overhaul it all.

    I think it's a thing where everyone loves to bash EA for anything they do and choose to overlook the positives. It's completely deserved for the monetization of lootboxes like FIFA UT and neglecting any other game mode and 2K are the same with NBA 2K, but if they make lots of money from cosmetic things then maybe they can move away from lootboxes. Hopefully legislation comes in to ban them eventually.


  • #138
    Zero-Cool
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    2k are way worse imo but it's cool to hate ea so 2k get a pass.

    I noticed as well this is just called UFC 4, not EA UFC 4 or EA Sports UFC 4. I wonder why they changed that. Surely not trying to hide the EA part to get more sales?

    Also, the archetype video i posted from Bayliun earlier is a bit misleading. His character creating in career video looked different so i scoured online and found this.

    When you start career, you choose between boxer, kickboxer, balanced, wrestling and bjj. Each has base stats and 1 perk.

    According to Bayliun, when you pick your caf for online ranked, only the look carries over and you have to select 1 of 12 archetypes and your rating will never be over 3.5 star so basically you can't use your fighter from career. If this is actually true, very few people are going to use caf online. I was wondering why the boxer snipee had 2 kicking perks but this was just to round them out for online play.


  • #139
    Axwell
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    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    I noticed as well this is just called UFC 4, not EA UFC 4 or EA Sports UFC 4. I wonder why they changed that. Surely not trying to hide the EA part to get more sales?

    Haven't noticed that - it's the same naming conversion the others were anywhere I have seen unless I am missing something?
    https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/ufc

    The customisation stuff doesnt really bother me, when playing online modes that's where people want to show off their caf's etc and it's purely cosmetic so if people want to waste money on it let them at it but I probably would prefer if they just had one online mode where you could caf's and then keep the rest with normal fighters for realism. For example just have an online world championship for any fighters and then a seperate one called something else and the blitz battles as rostered fighters.


  • #140
    callaway92
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    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    Beaming for DC landing the commentary role and now he's the decider of stat increases/decreases after each ppv.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=078Mh48Yf_s

    That's a bit silly to be honest. It should be a data provider doing that.


  • #141
    Axwell
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    callaway92 wrote: »
    That's a bit silly to be honest. It should be a data provider doing that.

    Its all for show to look like something new..dynamic rankings were in UF3. DC won't be doing anything I bet, stats will go up and down like before and DC will tweet whatever he is told to say. He's not even doing it after every PPV, he said select ones. So I imagine every now and then he's gonna tweet saying he made some big changes after this weekends PPV to the rankings..and then they will barely change.


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  • #142
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,478 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    This guy has the best career videos hands down. I'm trying not to watch much, just skim through but he's paying on legendary and the fights are really interesting. Actually looks like you can play a journeyman career on legendary if you forget about the GOAT goal and it looks really interesting.

    PSA: if you play on legendary, there are no retries including training. He had 80k and spent 75k on inviting Lauzon to camp to learn the kimura from FG/Side Control. To learn the move, he had to finish the fight with kimura. He had it locked in and saw the prompt to chain the submission. Switched to armbar and finished the fight. Didn't learn the move, didn't get his 75k back and didn't get to retry it. Sickner.

    I'm really liking the look of career mode. Think the first will be on normal to take the DWCS, get into ufc early and become goat and 2nd career will be legendary with the goal of becoming wfa champ, anything beyond that being a bonus.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeQfcPOotLE


  • #143
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,478 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    That guy Bayliun has a new vid up and even if you don't want to see career stuff, skip to his 2nd fight against Joe Duffy, cracking scrap. I remember Legendary difficulty last year was awful cheesy as the AI blocked everything but this looks like a proper fight.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rriv6Uwhqas


  • #144
    Axwell
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    Had a quick shuffle through those 2 videos, looks pretty decent. That submission chain thing was a sickner alright, very frustrating and as he says it makes sense but your instinct is to hit it during the move.

    I haven't been watching too many videos or reading too much about it, I had decided I am gonna pick it up so I don't want stuff putting me off getting it now :D

    Looking forward to playing it and while I plan to sit down and properly play through the career and take my time with it and learn the new controls etc I know well that 45 mins in I will be jumping online wanting to throw fists against randomers with no idea how to properly clinch or escape with the new controls and swinging for the fences :pac:


  • #145
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,478 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    On Operation Sports forum, the EA Game Changers said they all opposed the customisation aspect (1 guy got released from the program for opposing too much apparently) but seems like EA didn't take much stock of them this time around except for one "very, very big decision" that they were all against and EA took it out. Dev stepped in to remind they are under NDA and can't talk about it but the GC's said that if the feature was still in, the game would be far far worse and no one would care about customisation, that's how bad it was.

    Interested now to know what that was :)

    Saw in mmagame's last video that there was no 'emote off' at the start of the fight and didn't look edited out. A new patch was released this morning so maybe they took it out.


  • #146
    How Soon Is Now
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    Decided to pre order the game got it for 50 euro with the discounts and the money I had left in my account so happy days!


  • #147
    Zero-Cool
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    At least we shouldn't be facing Conor every match online now.

    https://twitter.com/EASPORTSUFC/status/1291041273801920517?s=19


  • #148
    How Soon Is Now
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    Zero-Cool wrote: »
    At least we shouldn't be facing Conor every match online now.

    https://twitter.com/EASPORTSUFC/status/1291041273801920517?s=19

    Jesus his head looks **** in the game this year haha. Seen it recently but didn't think was that bad!


  • #149
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,478 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    I'm loving this series. Would be selling me the game above all else if i didn't have it preordered.

    The only reason i wouldn't start in legendary is that it looks too hard to upgrade your fighter. Sparring shouldn't have legendary difficulty to a point where it's too hard to earn moves. Other than that, the actual fights are incredible and look like a different game than the other YouTubers spamming punch until KO.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCCOnhqCyAQ


  • #150
    Zero-Cool
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    Free swag if you play the EA Access Trial. Won't be touching it myself but fyi if anyone fancies it.

    https://twitter.com/EAAccess/status/1291111117259804673?s=19


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  • #151
    Zero-Cool
    Registered Users Posts: 29,478 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Full roster revealed here. Some ommissions, some bad models, some great models. Overall, I'm happy with it and the new star system. Only 4 fighters with 5 stars (Jones, Khabib, Nunes & Izzy) and the majority are either 4 or 4.5 stars making them more tempting to use. I have a feeling 5 star fighters won't be allowed in the Boards Tourney, who wants to fight Marty using Khabib :pac:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ibpZI5HpyI


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