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Ravens and crow throughout history

  • 12-02-2018 11:35pm
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    "[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In the Bible, crows and their close cousins, ravens, were called “unclean” and with this unshakable spiritual grey cloud, these bullied birds have subsequently been associated with the occult, witchcraft, and death. Neither does Islam offer these homeless birds a safe perch to land, as it holds them as one of the five animals we are “allowed” to destroy.[/font]"
    http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends-europe/feathered-tricksters-dawn-time-009584


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,624 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    In Irish mythology I guess the raven is probably best associated with the war goddess, the Morrigan. The most well known appearance is in the death of Cuchulain who tied himself to a rock when he was near death, so he could die facing his enemies, and it is only when the Morrigan in the form of a raven lands on his shoulder that anyone dares to approach him. There is a statue of this scene in the GPO

    Cuchulainn.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    I've sometimes read that it was a hooded crow which landed on Cú Chulainn.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    As a monarchist I've always like the legend that the presence of the Ravens at the Tower of London protects the Crown and Britain, and their departure would be a portent of doom. Anybody checked to see if they are still there recently? :D

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravens_of_the_Tower_of_London


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,056 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    As a monarchist I've always like the legend that the presence of the Ravens at the Tower of London protects the Crown and Britain, and their departure would be a portent of doom. Anybody checked to see if they are still there recently? :D

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravens_of_the_Tower_of_London
    They should be, since they are captive ravens. (Appropriately enough, since one of the Tower's functions has always been that of a prison.)

    Presumably the thinking is that if the British state ever becomes so crapulously incompetent that they can't keep a captive bird from escaping, well, total collapse must be imminent. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,108 ✭✭✭pedroeibar1


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    .............. if the British state ever becomes so crapulously incompetent that they can't keep a captive bird from escaping, well, total collapse must be imminent. ;)

    Onoma(s)tologists will recognize the link with the name of Labour's leader.:pac:


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Huginn and Muninn (from Old Norse "thought" and "memory"), Odin's ravens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huginn_and_Muninn

    Aesir.jpg


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