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Buying options (post Brexit)

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  • #32
    yoshiktk
    Registered Users Posts: 811 ✭✭✭yoshiktk


    mossym wrote: »
    weren't we getting charged irish vat rates alrready though?

    I know, but that at least what I read on RTE.Brexit charges


  • #33
    Rob2D
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 2,449 Mod ✭✭✭✭Rob2D


    smacl wrote: »
    Even if you end up paying VAT, assuming you're VAT registered it will just be a matter of reclaiming it, although looking likely it may not be charged in the first instance.

    Yeah but I mean whatever money I was saving will now actually balance back out due to import fees.
    pockets3d wrote: »
    Ignorant question but what ever happened hardversand.de it was the go to place for components when i was building a PC 10 years or so ago .

    Yeah, used to get all my stuff from them!


  • #34
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,697 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    'Trusted trader scheme' agreed between EU and UK


    *edit*
    NVM this is for Northern Ireland.


  • #35
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,697 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    pockets3d wrote: »
    Ignorant question but what ever happened hardversand.de it was the go to place for components when i was building a PC 10 years or so ago .

    https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/3esor9/discussion_psa_do_not_order_parts_off_of/

    Insolvency.


  • #36
    dannyd20
    Registered Users Posts: 345 ✭✭dannyd20


    I have used https://geizhals.de/ to price compare and find retailers


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  • #37
    wozniattack
    Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭wozniattack


    Places like OcUK have been charging 21% VAT for a while already now.

    I do like SCAN, and currently have a full Ryzen 5950X upgrade bundle on pre-order with them, and I also use Saxoprint in the UK to get stuff via Parcelmotel.

    The Brits really are at it again. Going to be a damn pain.


  • #38
    Hyzepher
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,659 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hyzepher


    The only way shopping in UK will remain anyway viable is if UK retailers dont charge VAT for exports. If they do continue to charge VAT then unfortunately that wont stop customs/revenue from adding it again when it comes into Ireland.


  • #39
    TheRover
    Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭TheRover


    Hyzepher wrote: »
    The only way shopping in UK will remain anyway viable is if UK retailers dont charge VAT for exports. If they do continue to charge VAT then unfortunately that wont stop customs/revenue from adding it again when it comes into Ireland.


    Not to mention afaik customs/an post will add a €10 flat fee just for the trouble of opening a package


  • #40
    py2006
    Registered Users Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭py2006


    Those German sites are quite expensive for processors.


  • #41
    py2006
    Registered Users Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭py2006


    Lumen wrote: »
    Do you mean mailboxde.com ?

    Have people used this here? I need a new processor and motherboard. I was about to order from a Amazon but price went up etc


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  • #42
    wozniattack
    Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭wozniattack


    Hyzepher wrote: »
    The only way shopping in UK will remain anyway viable is if UK retailers dont charge VAT for exports. If they do continue to charge VAT then unfortunately that wont stop customs/revenue from adding it again when it comes into Ireland.


    Yes, overclockers already makes you pay 21% VAT if you have an Irish address.

    I'd imagine customs will charge you that 21% a second time if they get your hands on the package.


  • #43
    dannyd20
    Registered Users Posts: 345 ✭✭dannyd20


    py2006 wrote: »
    Those German sites are quite expensive for processors.


    Where do you recommend?


  • #44
    mossym
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    i think that's the bit. right now you get charged 21% vat instead of the english vat. after 1 jan you will pay UK vat and then tehe 21% on top as well


  • #45
    rob808
    Registered Users Posts: 2,311 ✭✭✭rob808


    Would you be hit with customs if you buy off pcspecialist.They have a Irish website but pc come from the uk.


  • #46
    Coyler
    Registered Users Posts: 386 ✭✭Coyler


    It very much depends. It very much seems are being shipped from the UK and the Irish website is not an Irish location paying Irish VAT on good shipped from an Irish address. If they did they could transfer stock between sites, subject to customs inspections and internal tax implications of course, and sell in that market but they don't so I strongly suspect the Euro price your seeing is just a currency conversion and little else.


  • #47
    yoshiktk
    Registered Users Posts: 811 ✭✭✭yoshiktk


    Extreme option would be renting a Po box and pick it up from there.
    As for Amazon the question is how good are sales in here, would that be worth their investment. Like for example look at Poland, with the amount of competition Amazon still havent opened the pl version.
    Shame as I used Prime often. De website offers it only for Germany and few neighbours.


  • #48
    py2006
    Registered Users Posts: 9,847 ✭✭✭py2006


    dannyd20 wrote: »
    Where do you recommend?

    The UK :(


  • #49
    Fionn
    Registered Users Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭Fionn


    Another thing to note with German suppliers, beside fairly steep shipping prices is, they'll charge you 21%VAT and not the German 16% VAt.

    Where it hurts, is if your looking for a small ticket item perhaps not available locally, the price will be very expensive with shipping and VAT added on.

    So things are going to get pricier!


  • #50
    Citrus_8
    Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Citrus_8


    Fionn wrote: »
    Another thing to note with German suppliers, beside fairly steep shipping prices is, they'll charge you 21%VAT and not the German 16% VAt.

    Where it hurts, is if your looking for a small ticket item perhaps not available locally, the price will be very expensive with shipping and VAT added on.

    So things are going to get pricier!
    Irish entrepreneurs could once stop being lazy and make things work in the country. Demand is there due to working at home etc., and after Brexit demand will stay long after. Simply existing PC building and part web shops could adopt, create better pricing and more options to choose from. Win win. But I wouldn't expect than from lazy Irish businesses. They can only be happy getting easy money without investment or moan for not making money (while same time doing nothing to attract customers and create the market or oversee the opportunities).


  • #51
    Pangea
    Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    As Scrooge said is this what is going to happen or what may happen? If there's a deal could we avoid all these vat and custom duty charges?


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  • #52
    Nate--IRL--
    Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Nate--IRL--


    Pangea wrote: »
    As Scrooge said is this what is going to happen or what may happen? If there's a deal could we avoid all these vat and custom duty charges?

    Deal or no deal - the result is the same with VAT and Duty. No Deal might include tarrifs too though.

    Nate


  • #53
    Suckit
    Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Fionn wrote: »
    Another thing to note with German suppliers, beside fairly steep shipping prices is, they'll charge you 21%VAT and not the German 16% VAt.

    Where it hurts, is if your looking for a small ticket item perhaps not available locally, the price will be very expensive with shipping and VAT added on.

    So things are going to get pricier!
    I ended up with a longer post than expected. TL:DR - I have looked around, - skip to bolded part, I am looking for any better recommendations if possible.

    I don't find the German shipping prices too steep, but I also mainly use mailboxde anyway, and activate consolidated shipping each year. It has gone up a bit since they started, but it's only around €13 now, their prices as a whole have gone up, but still not too steep. I find their prices fairly good.
    Only watch out for the way things are packaged from the seller.
    For example, I received two separate orders of agando pc's last month, and they each arrived in a large box with the PC and the boxes for the components inside it (shipping for each box was €23 iirc).
    I consolidated them to one massive box unknowingly, and the shipping was around €40.
    That could have been done cheaper. I just didn't realise agando shipped them like that.
    I also got two tablets from Huawei-Germany that were on sale, and messed up again, so had to consolidate those too, they were each in a box that would have fit the packaging of two - three tablets and pens, I consolidated both, and they came to €26 delivered. Again, I could have done it cheaper.
    When ordering, best to try and leave instructions with seller or you can pay for photo (€2.10), or pay for the packaging to be removed before consolidating and plenty of other services. I find them cheaper than mygermany or other options.
    Parcl is another one (not just for Germany), but can be hit or miss, luckily with them you can get a price before ordering product if you can get the correct shipping dimensions (I use amazon to look up most of them).
    Plenty of Parcl-shippers will come back to you with a quote.

    I am currently a bit stuck looking for a motherboard bundle, cheap enough, so I am looking at agando, csl-computer, memorypc, voelkner and one or two others in Germany, and in the UK I am looking at cclonline, scan, novatech, palicomp, aria, quietpc and a few others.
    I find Germany as a general rule, cheaper than the UK including shipping (particularly if you use mailboxde and get 16% vat, - cheaper again with consolidation),
    But as I am both stuck by time constraints (not so much) and a very small budget, I am wondering if UK would be better now, and if there are any places in the UK that would be recommended?
    I guessed this thread might be better as it is about buying options.
    I am looking at these two at the minute
    https://www.cclonline.com/product/27811/NoMfgCode/NoCat/CCL-Alpha-Prime-Motherboard-Bundle/MBB-AMD-BUD/
    OR
    https://www.memorypc.de/hardware-zubehoer/aufruest-kits/amd/518/aufruest-kit-asus-prime-a320m-k-amd-ryzen-3-3200g-4x-3.6-ghz-0-gb-ddr4-amd-vega-11?c=23

    CCLonline seems to offer free UK shipping, but £9.90 to Ireland, yet if I use ParcelMotel (for faster shipping and price), it is more expensive (£12) and slower.. Which is weird, DPD shipping.


  • #54
    Pangea
    Registered Users Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Anyone every buy from Curry's uk through address pal, assume it's fine for buying a cpu?
    I guess if you had to return something it would be tricky.


  • #55
    K.O.Kiki
    Registered Users Posts: 18,697 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    https://www.moneyguideireland.com/irish-customs-duty-on-uk-online-purchases.html

    Seems we're ok even in a No Deal situation?


  • #56
    yoshiktk
    Registered Users Posts: 811 ✭✭✭yoshiktk


    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    https://www.moneyguideireland.com/irish-customs-duty-on-uk-online-purchases.html

    Seems we're ok even in a No Deal situation?

    Isnt that article a little weird or I dont understand it correctly. First it mentiones the USA as the partner with we trade on FTA tariff and than says we wont have to pay customs on pc from UK based on that but arent we paying the customs when we order stuff from USA now?


  • #57
    Citrus_8
    Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Citrus_8


    yoshiktk wrote: »
    Isnt that article a little weird or I dont understand it correctly. First it mentiones the USA as the partner with we trade on FTA tariff and than says we wont have to pay customs on pc from UK based on that but arent we paying the customs when we order stuff from USA now?
    There's a list of exceptions. Duty and duty tax, now it is understood, shouldn't be with duty tax as it's exempt. But there's still on more issue - will warranty work when we buy in the UK but use the purchase abroad? And who would protect consumers' rights? Currently the EU regulations protect consumers, but in won't be the case after the 1st of January.


  • #58
    Tony
    Registered Users Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Good business opportunity there for you so :)

    Citrus_8 wrote: »
    Irish entrepreneurs could once stop being lazy and make things work in the country. Demand is there due to working at home etc., and after Brexit demand will stay long after. Simply existing PC building and part web shops could adopt, create better pricing and more options to choose from. Win win. But I wouldn't expect than from lazy Irish businesses. They can only be happy getting easy money without investment or moan for not making money (while same time doing nothing to attract customers and create the market or oversee the opportunities).

    Desktop PC Boards discount code on https://www.satellite.ie/ is boards.ie



  • #59
    Citrus_8
    Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Citrus_8


    Tony wrote: »
    Good business opportunity there for you so :)

    To be honest, I was thinking about it :)


  • #60
    Tony
    Registered Users Posts: 11,325 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Fair play, best of luck with it.
    Citrus_8 wrote: »
    To be honest, I was thinking about it :)

    Desktop PC Boards discount code on https://www.satellite.ie/ is boards.ie



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  • #61
    GHOST MGG
    Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭GHOST MGG


    Citrus_8 wrote: »
    Irish entrepreneurs could once stop being lazy and make things work in the country. Demand is there due to working at home etc., and after Brexit demand will stay long after. Simply existing PC building and part web shops could adopt, create better pricing and more options to choose from. Win win. But I wouldn't expect than from lazy Irish businesses. They can only be happy getting easy money without investment or moan for not making money (while same time doing nothing to attract customers and create the market or oversee the opportunities).
    Unless you have an investor behind you with deep pockets it aint worth it on a profit level..the price of IT gear wholesale is a scandal unless you are buying in big bulk like scan and overclockers can afford to.


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