Originally Posted by Wedwood
It's probably impossible to make another decent Terminator movie.
The original was basically a routine '80's horror/chase movie where the unstoppable baddie chases the innocent girl. The twist was making the baddie a robot from the future instead of a Michael Myers/ Freddie Kruger type, typical of horror movies then.
The sequel succeeded because it was basically a remake of the first movie with the novelty being Swarzenegger was a good guy this time.
Trying to pad out what was a fairly thin backstory into further movies just doesn't work as evidenced in every Terminator movie since.
Although I've always viewed 'The Terminator' as basically Cameron's riff on Ridley Scott's 'Alien' and it's story was essentially good for one shot. But that shot has been stretched out to ridiculous lengths now, that it's becoming a parody at this stage.
To me, though, this franchises biggest sin is its watering down. When I first saw 'The Terminator', it was a horror film, with some sci-fi elements. Much in the way that 'Alien' was. It's dark tone was what made it. The second one was just a dumb ass action flick, with a silly bad guy and Arnie wanting to be the hero he played in a dozen other dumb ass action flicks. Enjoyable for what it was, but not a patch on the original.
They really should have just left it at that, because there was nowhere else to go with the story, except into the future with John Connor, which they tried and failed, because the well was already poisoned by then.
The Terminator franchise has outlived its welcome a LONG time ago and needs to be put out of our misery, cos it isn't going to get better. The last go around (really a reboot) was especially atrocious.