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How are the tolls legal, and why are they still there?

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  • #62
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Also, no way in hell should there by 3 tolls from Cork to Dublin airport. It's a 250km stretch and really excessive, considering Belfast Dublin has 1


    If all of the route to Belfast was motorway and you had to pay another €2, a lot of people would regard that as a reasonable price.



    As for the M50, a person using it from the Northside should be able to park at a park n ride and get an express bus to Sandyford for the same cost as the toll.


  • #63
    donvito99
    Registered Users Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The only congestion in Fermoy/Rathcormac/Watergrasshill is caused by a toll and is traffic meant to use the motorway to bypass these places.

    Esoecially dangerous heavy goods traffic going to Cork or Dublin

    So if we removed the M50 toll we would reduce congestion???


  • #64
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users Posts: 16,871 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Cork_exile wrote:
    Also, no way in hell should there by 3 tolls from Cork to Dublin airport. It's a 250km stretch and really excessive, considering Belfast Dublin has 1


    We're trying to keep the Cork people out :)


  • #65
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    donvito99 wrote: »
    So if we removed the M50 toll we would reduce congestion???




    Did I say the M50?


  • #66
    Tomrota
    Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭Tomrota


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    it would be interesting to see how many people use the m50 but don't actually cross the bridge; i used to work on a team of seven people out in sandyford; i was the only person not to drive to the office. the other six did, and none of them hit the toll. which obviously unfair on those who do use the M50 and do pay a toll simply through a geographic accident. they're using a facility they are paying for, stuck behind a car which may not have paid for the same facility.

    however, there is that question about the knock on effects of blanket tolling on the M50, what happens the surrounding areas if people bail out onto surrounding roads. it's using a stick without providing any carrots for people to find actual alternatives to driving.

    If the M50 toll was removed tomorrow, do you think usage would increase significantly? If there was a toll for entering/exiting the M50 for everyone, the usage probably wouldn’t be affected and people would just pay the toll, adding a further charge to get to work for everyone. Or people will just clog up the residential areas creating the worst congestion problems and more pollution in those areas.

    If Dublin had an integrated and maintained public transport infrastructure like other European cities, people would actually see it as an option. Whenever I use the train/bus to go to UCD, it takes hours and hours and the train is always packed to capacity. It’s an awful experience, takes more time than driving, and I have to pay a lot for that service. Driving is way easier. This isn’t the case in many other Europeans cities, where there is actually a metro infrastructure that can get people around quickly and reliably. Dublin relies on buses and cars- one bad crash and the network is down.

    In Amsterdam, travelling on public transport is so simple and enjoyable. In Dublin, it is unreliable, overcrowded, and reliant on buses. We need serious serious long term investment in the NETWORK. What’s the governments plan for the next 40 years? Knock down trees and gardens, making it even more over reliant on buses (and uglier) that aren’t serving the city well. And maybe tax people for using the main road with no plan to majorly increase capacity or expand the network.

    It is a serious problem that people don’t really see because they don’t know any better.


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