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General Ryanair discusion

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    #92
    Bob24
    Registered Users Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    Thanks, that clarifies it.


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    #93
    MoeJay
    Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭MoeJay


    EASA is quite specific about these things:

    “suitable accommodation” means, for the purpose of standby, split duty, and rest, a separate room for each crew member located in a quiet environment and equipped with a bed, which is sufficiently ventilated, has a device for regulating temperature and light intensity, and access to food and drink.

    I can’t find any exceptions to that rule, if there is please let me know...

    If a company that generates over 7 billion in revenue is seriously suggesting that no other alternative whatsoever existed (and then effectively goes on to say just that) and says that is reasonable, it doesn’t add up to me.


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    #94
    ZX7R
    Registered Users Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    View Profile wrote: »
    Two pilots were flown in from other bases to return the 24 crew members back to Porto. It was not a revenue flight.

    However, once aboard the aircraft, the crew asked the operating captain, "Could we open the aircraft bar and heat up some sandwiches, and have some soft drinks?"
    He reportedly called Ops in Dublin and was told "No, they can't!"

    Ryanair, always getting worse... :(
    Is there any actual proof that bar ,sambos soft drink was refused on the plane or is it just all hearsay.
    Sadly finding it harder to believe what Ryanair implyees say any more


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    #95
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,865 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Sorry, I hope this is resolved now.

    And I can't help comparing the photo of them sleeping on the floor (their positioning, ahem) to the pic of the woman who took her kids to the Garda Station overnight.


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    #96
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    MoeJay wrote: »
    EASA is quite specific about these things:

    “suitable accommodation” means, for the purpose of standby, split duty, and rest, a separate room for each crew member located in a quiet environment and equipped with a bed, which is sufficiently ventilated, has a device for regulating temperature and light intensity, and access to food and drink.

    I can’t find any exceptions to that rule, if there is please let me know...

    If a company that generates over 7 billion in revenue is seriously suggesting that no other alternative whatsoever existed (and then effectively goes on to say just that) and says that is reasonable, it doesn’t add up to me.

    That about sums it up. Everything else in this is window dressing.


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    #97
    rivegauche
    Registered Users Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭rivegauche


    "Alle Ryanair-Büros und Crew-Räume sind aus Sicherheitsgründen mit Kameras ausgestattet und entsprechend der Datenschutzverordnung weisen wir darauf hin", verteidigt die Airline die Aufzeichnung gegenüber aero.de.
    Ryanair states to a website called aero.de that the recording of staff in the crew rooms is recorded on safety grounds and in compliance with data protection regulations.

    If this is factually incorrect then any of those aggrieved employees, not the Unions can take Ryanair to court.


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    #98
    LeChienMefiant
    Registered Users Posts: 620 ✭✭✭LeChienMefiant


    Safety or security grounds? Two very different things. Google translates it as "security".


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    #99
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,647 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    That may be the grounds for the recording but doesn't give carte blanche to release it


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    #100
    rivegauche
    Registered Users Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭rivegauche


    It is a matter for the data subject and data processor/controller, not us, not unions.


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    #101
    RocketRaccoon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    I often wonder what people expect from Ryanair, they provide flights for a tenner ffs. I love flying with them.


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    Bob24
    Registered Users Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    L1011 wrote: »
    That may be the grounds for the recording but doesn't give carte blanche to release it

    Exactly. It is not rocket science to understand that there is a world of a difference between storing personally identifiable data and publicly releasing it.

    For exemple my employer stores my name, address, salary, phone number, etc as I have a contract with them and it is necessary to have me as an employee ... all very legal and fair, but in no way does it give them the right to post all of that information on Twitter!


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    #103
    MoeJay
    Registered Users Posts: 491 ✭✭MoeJay


    The whole CCTV issue is a mere sideshow to try and get away from the fact that it would appear that an operator did not provide, for some reason, suitable accommodation for its crew.

    That is the real issue.


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    #104
    Bob24
    Registered Users Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    MoeJay wrote: »
    The whole CCTV issue is a mere sideshow to try and get away from the fact that it would appear that an operator did not provide, for some reason, suitable accommodation for its crew.

    That is the real issue.

    True, but I actually don’t think it is a very good diversion. While people talk about the recording it also keeps the real issue under the public eye, whereas otherwise it would probably die down.


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    #105
    Comhrá
    Registered Users Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Bob24 wrote: »
    True, but I actually don’t think it is a very good diversion. While people talk about the recording it also keeps the real issue under the public eye, whereas otherwise it would probably die down.

    It's not uncommon for Ryanair to let their spitefulness towards their staff get in the way of their better judgement and resultant negative publicity.


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    #106
    Bussywussy
    Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭Bussywussy


    kevinandrew wrote: »
    Ryanair's very own Peter Bellew (COO) has said the lounge opened to crew and passengers at 05:15 so the crews must have spent much more than just "a short time" in the crew room before being moved. Either way, an airport lounge is still inadequate.

    Cough cough he's here


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    #107
    SeeMoreBut
    Registered Users Posts: 797 ✭✭✭SeeMoreBut


    If I put an adult in as a child and a child in as an adult should I contact Ryanair to fix up?

    Won't allow me to change the title without paying money within the 24 hours


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    #108
    LeChienMefiant
    Registered Users Posts: 620 ✭✭✭LeChienMefiant


    SeeMoreBut wrote: »
    If I put an adult in as a child and a child in as an adult should I contact Ryanair to fix up?

    Won't allow me to change the title without paying money within the 24 hours
    Nothing to lose by calling, they have more flexibility within first 24 hours.

    Edit: I've also had success with the web chat before where I needed to change baby's date of birth. Baby name changes are very easy to do online for free.


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    #109
    SeeMoreBut
    Registered Users Posts: 797 ✭✭✭SeeMoreBut


    Hopefully they’ll be flexible. Not like I’m doing a person change. Just a bad typo mistake


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    #110
    SeeMoreBut
    Registered Users Posts: 797 ✭✭✭SeeMoreBut


    Chat said titles are not printed on boarding passes


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    #111
    SeeMoreBut
    Registered Users Posts: 797 ✭✭✭SeeMoreBut


    They made the change anyway.

    They have their good sides


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    #112
    trellheim
    Registered Users Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭trellheim


    only a few days to the new bag policy I expect mayhem on thursday morning on the 100 gates

    Someone asked me a question I could not answer .... if everyone wants to bring a wheely on board isnt there a limit on the number of priority boardings that can be purchased what happens if a>b ?


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    #113
    VG31
    Registered Users Posts: 3,390 ✭✭✭VG31


    trellheim wrote: »
    only a few days to the new bag policy I expect mayhem on thursday morning on the 100 gates

    Someone asked me a question I could not answer .... if everyone wants to bring a wheely on board isnt there a limit on the number of priority boardings that can be purchased what happens if a>b ?

    I imagine in that case the only option would be to pay the slightly higher fee to check your cabin baggage at the check-in desk.


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    #114
    john boye
    Registered Users Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭john boye


    I see the first FR B737-max is coming together in Everett


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    #115
    ongarboy
    Registered Users Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    I've noticed twice recently when arriving at the gate for Ryanair flights that the priority queue was massively long (100 pax) and no one was using the non priority queue. On both occasions we just sailed past the queue with our non priority tickets and went through the gate in seconds. I felt like I was jumping the queue. This was before the new punitive baggage restriction rules that might tempt more to buy priority tickets but surely not the vast majority of pax? A friend noticed it on her flight too recently. Has anyone else noticed it and what would be the reason? I thought the whole purpose of paying premium was to skip the queues, not the other way round?


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    #116
    Under His Eye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    I believe they can sell up to 110 priority tickets for each flight.


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    #117
    trellheim
    Registered Users Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭trellheim


    I thought the whole purpose of paying premium was to skip the queues, not the other way round?
    its to bring a rollie not to skip the queues


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    #118
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    It's to avoid the queue at the bag drop before security, and the wait at the other end for the bags to arrive on the belt, priority is cheaper than paying for a hold bag if it's taken when the booking is made.

    For us, it will mean a reduction in the number of flights we take each year, which probably won't upset Ryanair, as they seem to be able to pack their flights to the gills anyway.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



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    #119
    blackwhite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,476 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    ongarboy wrote: »
    I've noticed twice recently when arriving at the gate for Ryanair flights that the priority queue was massively long (100 pax) and no one was using the non priority queue. On both occasions we just sailed past the queue with our non priority tickets and went through the gate in seconds. I felt like I was jumping the queue. This was before the new punitive baggage restriction rules that might tempt more to buy priority tickets but surely not the vast majority of pax? A friend noticed it on her flight too recently. Has anyone else noticed it and what would be the reason? I thought the whole purpose of paying premium was to skip the queues, not the other way round?

    One really has to question WTF the Ryanair staff manning the gate are at in those situations.

    Surely they shouldn't be boarding non-priority PAX until the priority line has gone through?


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    #120
    rivegauche
    Registered Users Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭rivegauche


    It makes little difference; From Frankfurt Main all three shuttle buses were waiting at the plane for boarding and only opened up the doors and vomited forth all passengers together at the same time when given the signal to do so.

    At least the booking system is clever enough to know that Security Fast Track is not available in Frankfurt Main so that is some money not wasted and I find no reference to priority boarding on the web page so they don't appear to be pushing it that heavily.


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    #121
    rivegauche
    Registered Users Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭rivegauche


    https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/status/1064029721216790528/photo/1

    The first of the High Capacity Max 8 planes(formerly known as Max200), EI-HAT, is seen for the first time.

    Note the additional doors rear of the wings.


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