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Air Accident / Incident thread

  • 28-12-2015 9:07am
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    Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭pepe the prawn


    Dunno if this would be of any use or interest to people, a thread solely for notification and discussion (not waffle) of air accidents and incidents etc. If not then the mods can feel free to delete if required.



    Ex Ryanair 737-800 which was only delivered to its new owner in South Korea in the past few weeks, pressurisation problem. HL8049, formerly EI-DYH

    http://avherald.com/h?article=49158d84&opt=0


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  • Registered Users Posts: 581 ✭✭✭pepe the prawn


    The importance of an effective and complete pre flight.... Cessna 208 Caravan impacted hedge on takeoff....

    http://www.aaiu.ie/sites/default/files/report-attachments/REPORT%202015-020_0.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭andy_g




  • Registered Users Posts: 10,003 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Incident: Stobart AT72 at Isle of Man on Dec 22nd 2015, tail scrape on landing

    By Simon Hradecky, created Tuesday, Dec 29th 2015 17:09Z, last updated Tuesday, Dec 29th 2015 17:09Z
    A Stobart Air Avions de Transport Regional ATR-72-212A on behalf of Flybe, registration EI-REM performing flight BE-821 from Manchester,EN to Isle of Man (UK) with 70 people on board, landed on Ronaldsway Airport's runway 26, however, the tail contacted the runway surface. The aircraft rolled out without further incident and taxied to the apron.

    The occurrence aircraft remained on the ground for 13 hours before resuming service.

    The French BEA reported in their weekly bulletin that the aircraft sustained minor damage when it suffered a tail scrape upon landing at Isle of Man's Ronaldsway Aerodrome. The occurrence was rated a serious incident and is being investigated by the AAIB.
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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,003 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Incident: Ryanair B738 at Dublin on Dec 27th 2015, flaps up landing

    By Simon Hradecky, created Sunday, Dec 27th 2015 18:50Z, last updated Monday, Dec 28th 2015 13:28Z
    A Ryanair Boeing 737-800, registration EI-EKB performing flight FR-7063 from Alicante,SP (Spain) to Dublin (Ireland) with 160 passengers and 6 crew, was on approach to Dublin's runway 10 maintaining 4000 feet when the crew reported they were maintaining minimum clean speed and requested to maintain 4000 feet and be pulled off the approach. The aircraft entered a hold, following working the checklists the crew advised they were ready for a full stop high speed landing and requested emergency services on stand by. The aircraft landed safely on runway 10 at high speed (about 190 knots over ground) about 25 minutes after levelling off at 4000 feet and requesting to maintain 4000 feet and vacated the runway via a high speed turn off and stopped to have the brakes inspected by emergency services. Following the inspection the aircraft taxied to the gate.

    A passenger reported the captain announced they needed to perform a flaps up landing at Dublin.

    On Dec 28th 2015 the airline stated: "This flight from Alicante to Dublin (27 Dec) experienced a cockpit warning light indicating a possible flaps issue on approach into Dublin. In line with safety procedures, the crew alerted ATC and the airport fire service, and the aircraft performed a flapless landing, which was otherwise normal. The aircraft was inspected by Ryanair engineers who repaired the fault and cleared the aircraft to return to service."
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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭Bsal


    A new series of Air Crash Investigation starting tonight 9pm Nat Geo.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭Bsal


    New episode starting now! UPS6 B747 at Dubai from 2010.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    Bsal wrote: »
    New episode starting now! UPS6 B747 at Dubai from 2010.

    A chilling official report to read.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    Bsal wrote: »
    New episode starting now! UPS6 B747 at Dubai from 2010.

    any video links to the episode?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Buffman


    I didn't see this posted here before and it didn't really make the news. The 737 was very lucky in this incident, could have easily been a repeat of GOL1907.

    From AVHearld:
    A Ceiba Intercontinental Boeing 737-800, registration 3C-LLY performing flight C2-71 from Dakar (Senegal) to Cotonou (Benin), was enroute at FL350 over the Senegal 45 minutes into the flight at 18:13Z when the flight path crossed with an ambulance jet, a Senegalair Hawker Siddeley HS-125 registration 6V-AIM from Ouagadougou (Burkina Faso) to Dakar (Senegal) carrying a patient, a doctor, two nurses and three crew. The Boeing 737-800 continued their flight but diverted to their ultimate destination and home base Malabo (Equatorial Guinea) where the aircraft landed safely.
    The HS-125 subsequently flew beyond Dakar crossing Dakar at FL350 and disappeared over the Atlantic Ocean, presumably crashing into the Ocean after running out of fuel.
    On Jan 8th 2016 Senegal's BEA reported in a press conference, that the ambulance jet of Senegalair had been cleared to climb and maintain FL340, however, climbed above that assigned level and was enroute at FL350 when it collided with the Boeing. The HS-125 has not been found after it flew beyond Dakar and disappeared from radar. The BEA is looking into the reasons as to why the HS-125 was flying at the wrong level, including altimeter malfunction.
    It will be very interesting to see what was the situation with TCAS in this incident. Is it possible that a faulty altimeter was giving a false reading to the transponder on the HS125 and as a result the 737 TCAS or ATC didn't see it as a threat?

    FYI, if you move to a 'smart' meter electricity plan, you CAN'T move back to a non-smart plan.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,003 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    New episode starting now! UPS6 B747 at Dubai from 2010.

    I read the accident report for this, its scary as to how fast the fire took control of the aircraft and how a simple thing as dispatching with a PACK inoperative helped!

    UPS have now invested in a smoke protection system called EVAS (http://www.visionsafe.com/) to help the crew if this happens in the future.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭ElNino


    Bsal wrote: »
    New episode starting now! UPS6 B747 at Dubai from 2010.

    Very good episode.

    Next week is Asiana Airlines Flight 214 and I don't envisage that it will be pleasant viewing for the crew involved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭ElNino


    any video links to the episode?

    Links are probably not allowed in this forum but it is repeated at 7pm on National Geographic this evening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    ElNino wrote: »
    Links are probably not allowed in this forum but it is repeated at 7pm on National Geographic this evening.

    Why not send him a PM, with the link if you have one!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Growler!!!


    Buffman wrote: »
    I didn't see this posted here before and it didn't really make the news. The 737 was very lucky in this incident, could have easily been a repeat of GOL1907.

    From AVHearld:

    It will be very interesting to see what was the situation with TCAS in this incident. Is it possible that a faulty altimeter was giving a false reading to the transponder on the HS125 and as a result the 737 TCAS or ATC didn't see it as a threat?


    The HS125 was ex EI-WJN based in Shannon for many years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭squonk


    What happened the HS125? Did the mid air collision cause depressurisation that incapacitated the crew but allowed the flight continue on it's heading indefinitely? It just sounds like an awful incident and I'm surprised it wasn't reported on at the time.

    Actually, on reading the full link the hypothesis above seems to be shared by the investigators. Very sad incident all the same.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,503 ✭✭✭ElNino


    Pat Dunne wrote: »
    Why not send him a PM, with the link if you have one!

    I don't have one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Emergency landing at East Midlands airport a while ago. Aircraft still blocking the runway.

    http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/East-Midlands-Airport-incident/story-28528729-detail/story.html

    From Eurocontrol:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    ElNino wrote: »
    Links are probably not allowed in this forum but it is repeated at 7pm on National Geographic this evening.

    of course they are, they normally are on youtube and you can embed youtube here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 481 ✭✭mr.anonymous


    http://avherald.com/h?article=4921bc12&opt=0

    Brazilian ATR72 came down short of the runway, struck a fence and went around. Landed safely later on 2nd attempt.

    Very close to crashing on the first approach. Viz between 100 and 1000m. At the time of the accident the viz was closer to 100 - doubt they should have been attempting the approach.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    ElNino wrote: »
    Links are probably not allowed in this forum but it is repeated at 7pm on National Geographic this evening.
    Sure let the Mods worry about that. ;)


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Curious to what this may have hit....

    Incident: LAN A320 enroute on Jan 10th 2016, collision with unknown object at FL350By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Jan 20th 2016 16:13Z, last updated Wednesday, Jan 20th 2016 16:13Z

    A LAN Airlines Airbus A320-200, registrationCC-BAR performing flight LA-3509 from Cancun (Mexico) to Bogota (Colombia), was enroute at FL350 and about 480 KTAS between waypoints KAKOL (300nm northnorthwest of Bogota) and RNG (about 100nm northnorthwest of Bogota) in the control zone of Bogota when the crew reported the aircraft had been impacted by an unknown object, there were no abnormal indications for any of the aircraft systems however. The crew therefore continued the flight normally for a safe landing in Bogota.

    The French BEA reported based on notification by Colombia's CAA, that following landing an inspection of the aircraft revealed damage to the left nose section of the aircraft with a dent of about 20cm diameter and some substance that is being analysed to determine what kind of object had hit the aircraft. The CAA Colombia rated the occurrence an incident and is investigating.

    Radar data show the aircraft was travelling at about 435 knots over ground at the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭Bsal


    KoolKid wrote: »
    Curious to what this may have hit....

    Incident: LAN A320 enroute on Jan 10th 2016, collision with unknown object at FL350By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Jan 20th 2016 16:13Z, last updated Wednesday, Jan 20th 2016 16:13Z

    A LAN Airlines Airbus A320-200, registrationCC-BAR performing flight LA-3509 from Cancun (Mexico) to Bogota (Colombia), was enroute at FL350 and about 480 KTAS between waypoints KAKOL (300nm northnorthwest of Bogota) and RNG (about 100nm northnorthwest of Bogota) in the control zone of Bogota when the crew reported the aircraft had been impacted by an unknown object, there were no abnormal indications for any of the aircraft systems however. The crew therefore continued the flight normally for a safe landing in Bogota.

    The French BEA reported based on notification by Colombia's CAA, that following landing an inspection of the aircraft revealed damage to the left nose section of the aircraft with a dent of about 20cm diameter and some substance that is being analysed to determine what kind of object had hit the aircraft. The CAA Colombia rated the occurrence an incident and is investigating.

    Radar data show the aircraft was travelling at about 435 knots over ground at the time.

    Only thing I can plausibly think of is migrating birds. Some geese have been known to fly at altitudes above FL300.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,079 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Bsal wrote: »
    Only thing I can plausibly think of is migrating birds. Some geese have been known to fly at altitudes above FL300.

    Really? Wow that's quite amazing. Imagine flying along looking out the window to see you overtaking a few birds!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭Bsal


    I found some more information about the high flying birds here, Im probably completely wrong about what hit it maybe a piece of volcanic rock lol

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_birds_by_flight_heights


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    How do they survive in those temperatures?


  • Registered Users Posts: 307 ✭✭Bog Man 1




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    KoolKid wrote: »
    Curious to what this may have hit....

    Incident: LAN A320 enroute on Jan 10th 2016, collision with unknown object at FL350By Simon Hradecky, created Wednesday, Jan 20th 2016 16:13Z, last updated Wednesday, Jan 20th 2016 16:13Z

    A LAN Airlines Airbus A320-200, registrationCC-BAR performing flight LA-3509 from Cancun (Mexico) to Bogota (Colombia), was enroute at FL350 and about 480 KTAS between waypoints KAKOL (300nm northnorthwest of Bogota) and RNG (about 100nm northnorthwest of Bogota) in the control zone of Bogota when the crew reported the aircraft had been impacted by an unknown object, there were no abnormal indications for any of the aircraft systems however. The crew therefore continued the flight normally for a safe landing in Bogota.

    The French BEA reported based on notification by Colombia's CAA, that following landing an inspection of the aircraft revealed damage to the left nose section of the aircraft with a dent of about 20cm diameter and some substance that is being analysed to determine what kind of object had hit the aircraft. The CAA Colombia rated the occurrence an incident and is investigating.

    Radar data show the aircraft was travelling at about 435 knots over ground at the time.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    ElNino wrote: »
    Very good episode.

    Next week is Asiana Airlines Flight 214 and I don't envisage that it will be pleasant viewing for the crew involved.



    ill post the others as i find them.


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