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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • #92
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,479 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    maybe he ll setup his own media platform?

    Do you know how much it would cost? These companies like Twitter & Facebook has burned through millions before getting anywhere close to the position they are in today.

    Who is going bankroll that? Will his users pay for access, when they can use other services for free? It is the same problem facing all social media platforms, how to monetise, but in the case of FB and Twitter they at least has market dominance.

    Also, Trump business track record is pretty poor.


  • #93
    TheIrishGrover
    Registered Users Posts: 5,967 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    maybe he ll setup his own media platform?

    He could. And for a while it would have a huge influx of members. However it would then just implode. Either it would become a platform of hate which would then be de-platformed (Like Parler): AWS, Azure or Google will simply refuse to host it without changes to moderate hate/violence speech. Or it does change to stay on the platform in which case most of the users would leave or have to be banned and then it becomes another also-ran and go under within 6 months of changing. So lifespan of 12-15 months.


  • #94
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,804 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Do you know how much it would cost? These companies like Twitter & Facebook has burned through millions before getting anywhere close to the position they are in today.

    Who is going bankroll that? Will his users pay for access, when they can use other services for free? It is the same problem facing all social media platforms, how to monetise, but in the case of FB and Twitter they at least has market dominance.

    Also, Trump business track record is pretty poor.

    people associated to trump have access to endless amounts of credit, millions all over the globe love him, he increased his voter base, and the world of advertisement and market has no morals, so easy pesy in my eyes


  • #95
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,804 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    TheIrishGrover wrote: »
    He could. And for a while it would have a huge influx of members. However it would then just implode. Either it would become a platform of hate which would then be de-platformed (Like Parler): AWS, Azure or Google will simply refuse to host it without changes to moderate hate/violence speech. Or it does change to stay on the platform in which case most of the users would leave or have to be banned and then it becomes another also-ran and go under within 6 months of changing. So lifespan of 12-15 months.

    sh1t sells, and by god is he good at selling it!


  • #96
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    He'll become a cult figure - literally. His home will be a place of pilgrimage and the locals will force him to leave.

    At which point presumably he'll fetch up in an appropriately gaudy property of his own where he can plot and be pampered and pandered to while not actually achieving anything himself but continuing to be malign influence on countless others who will fill the gap in his actual output with fantasies of the Qanon variety. I expect an ongoing trickle of events in which various public figures are attacked by complete fruit loops on the imagined orders of Trump.


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  • #97
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,130 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    people associated to trump have access to endless amounts of credit, millions all over the globe love him, he increased his voter base, and the world of advertisement and market has no morals, so easy pesy in my eyes

    People with money kept that money by making good business decisions, with trump's track record no capital fund would touch him, and as for a line in credit no bank will touch him as he's burned his last one. And that's not talking about the PG loans due in the next two years


  • #98
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,804 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    duploelabs wrote: »
    People with money kept that money by making good business decisions, with trump's track record no capital fund would touch him, and as for a line in credit no bank will touch him as he's burned his last one. And that's not talking about the PG loans due in the next two years

    ...again, trump doesnt have to fund it at all, he probably couldnt or wouldnt anyway, he just uses other methods of funding, always has, he has probably never put his hand in his own pockets for anything ever, those connected to him can


  • #99
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 18,971 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    a very good podcast called Trump Inc had a deep enough dive into his legal and financial liabilities, and where he can make money from.

    A rather depressing fact was, that unless his presidential entitlements are removed by the Senate, he will simply stay at any of his resorts and those properties will be paid to host his security detail. A modest but constant revenue stream for him


  • #100
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭yagan


    Tony EH wrote: »

    I'm sure that it's crossed his mind to start up a new political party too, but with American politics the way it is, he'd never be more than a minnow.
    He'd split the conservative vote too which guarantee another Democrat win, like in 1992 when Clinton won on 43%, and in 1912 when Wilson won on 41%.

    It's in the democrats interests for Trump to keep hovering.


  • #101
    Gunmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    people associated to trump have access to endless amounts of credit, millions all over the globe love him, he increased his voter base, and the world of advertisement and market has no morals, so easy pesy in my eyes

    But how will thy get that money back? It sounds like one of the worst investments you could make. He isnt going into the market as he has some revolutionary way to "change the dynamic" of social media, he would only do it to stick it to Twitter for banning him! It would be the most amateur platform out there, since he would either hire the cheapest devs possible or flat out refuse to pay them after the fact so no continued development, if his prior form is to be believed; it would Parler or even MSN Messenger look advanced.

    At most we will get is probabyl him having a 30 minute/1 hour slot each week on OANN or Newsmax which will just be him whinging about "how bad a job Biden is doing notrealPresident" or other rants against everyone he doesnt like and how great he is.....just a televised version of his rallies each week.


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  • #102
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,804 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Gunmonkey wrote: »
    But how will thy get that money back? It sounds like one of the worst investments you could make. He isnt going into the market as he has some revolutionary way to "change the dynamic" of social media, he would only do it to stick it to Twitter for banning him! It would be the most amateur platform out there, since he would either hire the cheapest devs possible or flat out refuse to pay them after the fact so no continued development, if his prior form is to be believed; it would Parler or even MSN Messenger look advanced.

    At most we will get is probabyl him having a 30 minute/1 hour slot each week on OANN or Newsmax which will just be him whinging about "how bad a job Biden is doing notrealPresident" or other rants against everyone he doesnt like and how great he is.....just a televised version of his rallies each week.

    ...the same way all media platforms make money, i.e. data mining and advertisement etc, theres a massive market there


  • #103
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    If he is not banned from running through being impeached he'll end up the front runner in the Republican party for 2024.

    He'll be older than Moses at that stage...or as old as Biden is now:D


    I'd imagine the Republicans will want someone a bit more savvy for four years hence.


  • #104
    Neyite
    Administrators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Neyite


    everlast75 wrote: »
    a very good podcast called Trump Inc had a deep enough dive into his legal and financial liabilities, and where he can make money from.

    A rather depressing fact was, that unless his presidential entitlements are removed by the Senate, he will simply stay at any of his resorts and those properties will be paid to host his security detail. A modest but constant revenue stream for him


    Trump was born to a billionaire. I don't think he would manage with a modest income. I don't think any of that family could.


  • #105
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Law of averages dictates than a US assassination is on the way, could be the Donald, if not he will live forever.


  • #106
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    TheIrishGrover wrote: »
    He'll lose millions over the next few years but you'll still see Trump Towers everywhere for another 10 years or so. Eventually the prime sites will be bought up.

    Or in the case of the former Trump Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City blown up with dynamite in just a few weeks time


  • #107
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,130 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    ...again, trump doesnt have to fund it at all, he probably couldnt or wouldnt anyway, he just uses other methods of funding, always has, he has probably never put his hand in his own pockets for anything ever, those connected to him can

    You've just described obtaining a line of credit, again trump has burnt any legitimate lender. Any grey source he may/has been able to access will be off limits now due to the current investigation into his finances by the SDNY


  • #108
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    correct horse battery staple wrote: »
    I voted Other

    I think he will start his own mega church (MAGAchurch?) Where he will continue preaching his gospel, he loves rambling to adoring followers who he can milk for hundreds of millions he needs to pay of debts and further litigation defense.

    As added bonus he can cloak his hate speech in religious protections and finally churches in us get all sorts of tax exemptions.

    He will spend next decade ranting in large halls and fields (all televised of course) before a series of strokes kills him.

    I was thinking along these lines too. He loves giving that rally of his and there are plenty of evangelicals around him to show him the ropes.

    That assumes that he can stay out of prison, which isn't a certainty.

    I don't think he'll be back to politics though. McConnell doesn't seem to see a future for him so there might be enough republicans to convict him for their own self-serving reasons in the Senate trial.


  • #109
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,804 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    duploelabs wrote: »
    You've just described obtaining a line of credit, again trump has burnt any legitimate lender. Any grey source he may/has been able to access will be off limits now due to the current investigation into his finances by the SDNY

    ...and again, trump doesnt need to, and as you said, he ll probably never be able to, but thats not really an issue for such a person, plenty associated with him could, and he could be used for exactly what hes good at, selling sh1t, even sh1t ideas, and theres tons of people globally prepared to lap it up


  • #110
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    say what you like about the man....but one thing for sure he certainly wasn't boring, in a strange way i'm gonna miss him, his press conferences were very entertaining...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDQPPBRW2ik


  • #111
    joe40
    Registered Users Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    Many years from now Trump and Guiliani die on the same day so both make their way to the gates of heaven.
    They meet God who says, sorry gentlemen but I'm afraid, as you probably know, you won't be getting in.
    Trump replies fair enough but at least tell me this "was the election rigged"

    God tells him "no my son the election was not rigged Biden won fairly"

    As the two turned to walk away Trump says to Guiliani,
    "See I told you, the conspiracy goes right to the top"


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  • #112
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    fryup wrote: »
    say what you like about the man....but one thing for sure he certainly wasn't boring, in a strange way i'm gonna miss him

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDQPPBRW2ik

    Whether we like to admit it or not, there’s a bit of Donald in us all.


  • #113
    nullzero
    Registered Users Posts: 16,353 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    ****


    I hear he's signed up for the Gaiety panto villain role next Christmas.

    Glazers Out!



  • #114
    fryup
    Registered Users Posts: 18,069 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Widow Twankey


  • #115
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    fryup wrote: »
    Widow Twankey

    Did you misspell that?


  • #116
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,479 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    I was thinking along these lines too. He loves giving that rally of his and there are plenty of evangelicals around him to show him the ropes.

    That assumes that he can stay out of prison, which isn't a certainty.

    I don't think he'll be back to politics though. McConnell doesn't seem to see a future for him so there might be enough republicans to convict him for their own self-serving reasons in the Senate trial.

    Why would they show him the ropes? That would take directly away from their business.

    Trump was latched onto by those people because he offered them something, for many it was SCOTUS.

    HE no longer has that ability. So they are faced with a choice, COntinue to work with this loser, who might be able to turn it around in 4 years, or look after themselves and look for the next meal ticket.

    IMO, Trump is about to see just how loyal these people really are.


  • #117
    Tippex
    Registered Users Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Tippex


    What time are the expected pardon's due to be announced do we know?


  • #118
    duploelabs
    Registered Users Posts: 11,130 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Tippex wrote: »
    What time are the expected pardon's due to be announced do we know?

    They don't have to announce them at all


  • #119
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 18,971 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I'm starting to think that he won't release his taxes....


  • #120
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Tippex wrote: »
    What time are the expected pardon's due to be announced do we know?
    I certainly wouldn't expect to hear anything before 15:00 Irish time. He may try to do them quietly later on today.


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  • #121
    Tippex
    Registered Users Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Tippex


    duploelabs wrote: »
    They don't have to announce them at all

    I know they don't have to but I am sure that he is not going to let the opportunity to troll one last time pass them by.

    Also if they decide not to announce them today could biden not just decide to be open and announce them tomorrow?


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