Smart Meter Rollout

TinCanMan · 03-07-2019 12:48pm #1

With the rollout of smart meters by ESB networks to start this year. What are your thoughts, excited, concerned, don't care? Do you have any experience with such devices?

https://www.esbnetworks.ie/existing-connection/meters-readings/smart-meter-upgrade

Vita nova · 03-07-2019 1:49pm

Assuming the meters include remote reading then I'm very much in favour. I'm rarely home when the meter reader calls and I get widely varying estimates and often get requests to phone in a reading.
Also, the ability to monitor usage during different time periods is useful if you're trying to save energy and money.

branie2 · 03-07-2019 1:51pm

Sounds like a good idea

greenspurs · 03-07-2019 2:46pm

they are tracking our every move...…………..

#TinFoilHats... ..

:P

SEPT 23 1989 · 03-07-2019 2:50pm

Very very concerned and angry too

TheValeyard · 03-07-2019 2:52pm

Threads about Smart Meters? Has the average age of AH posters reached mid 40s.

suicide_circus · 03-07-2019 2:53pm

#Right2Electricity

No way, we wont pay!!!!

banie01 · 03-07-2019 2:57pm

Vita nova wrote: »

Assuming the meters include remote reading then I'm very much in favour.

But if they use remote reading that means extra of those super toxic dangerous brain melting 5G radio Yokio me bobs!

All that magic UHF wavelength interference will be killing our babies faster than those pesky vaccines and flouride that I keep hearing about!

Next thing ya know they will be putting chem trails in the water and running the gas off the electricity and the electricity off the gas!

I mean FFS won't somebody please! PLEASE think of the children?!?!

Wait...
Sorry, I meant Gemma! Won't somebody please think of Gemma

namloc1980 · 03-07-2019 3:52pm

Vita nova wrote: »

Assuming the meters include remote reading then I'm very much in favour. I'm rarely home when the meter reader calls and I get widely varying estimates and often get requests to phone in a reading.
Also, the ability to monitor usage during different time periods is useful if you're trying to save energy and money.

Phone in a meter reading? Why not just log it online or through an app? Takes about 20 seconds.

Deebles McBeebles · 03-07-2019 3:54pm

Just how smart are these "meters"? Are we talking Skynet?

branie2 · 03-07-2019 3:57pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

#Right2Electricity

No way, we wont pay!!!!

cue videos of protesters fighting with Gardai in someone's back garden during meter installation!

kneemos · 03-07-2019 3:57pm

What are these costing?

UK households have a choice,they pay if they want one.

Gimme A Pound · 03-07-2019 4:05pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Very very concerned and angry too

Any chance of explaining why?

GarIT · 03-07-2019 4:13pm

Great idea but previous reports say it will be a poor execution.

In Germany the new meters connect to your WiFi and you can use an app or the website to see your exact usage during any second of any day, including in real time.

The original proposal for the Irish "smart" meters was that they would contain a 2g SIM card and text your meter reading to the ESB once every 15 minutes. The readings would not be viewable by the customer in real time.

Ger Roe · 03-07-2019 5:10pm

I would be in favour,,, IF the new meters allow consumers to avail of off peak cheap rates (eg they can switch over to night rates) and to sell electricity back to the grid.

If not, then they will just reduce the reading/admin costs for the suppliers and, as usual, we will be encouraged to reduce demand so that we end up paying more, for less usage.

At the moment, I have a €15 induction monitor on my supply and I can see my own consumption rate. I know which of my appliances cost the most to run and I don't need anything fancier, unless it gives me some additional direct benefits in terms of reduced cost options.

What are the chances :rolleyes:

Ubbquittious · 03-07-2019 5:26pm

i suppose this will mean the end of the chape night rate electricity and instead the only time to make savings will be 15 minutes here and there when it's windy and demand is low

Ubbquittious · 06-07-2019 3:45pm

I see TLI got the contract for installing the smart meters but what exactly do TLI do when they're not installing meters?

I see their white vans on the road everywhere every day of the week but I never see them doing anything

s8n · 06-07-2019 3:48pm

Ubbquittious wrote: »

I see TLI got the contract for installing the smart meters but what exactly do TLI do when they're not installing meters?

I see their white vans on the road everywhere every day of the week but I never see them doing anything

drive around ?

The Cush · 06-07-2019 3:54pm

Ubbquittious wrote: »

I see TLI got the contract for installing the smart meters but what exactly do TLI do when they're not installing meters?

I see their white vans on the road everywhere every day of the week but I never see them doing anything

Around Limerick city they're installing SIRO fibre on the electricity poles and into the ducts.

kneemos · 06-07-2019 3:55pm

Ubbquittious wrote: »

I see TLI got the contract for installing the smart meters but what exactly do TLI do when they're not installing meters?

I see their white vans on the road everywhere every day of the week but I never see them doing anything

They're from Kerry.

http://www.tli.ie/

kneemos · 06-07-2019 3:58pm

Going to cost a cool billion apparently.

That's billion with a b,not billion with an m.

Potential-Monke · 06-07-2019 4:00pm

kneemos wrote: »

What are these costing?

UK households have a choice,they pay if they want one.

They're "free", but the same section says:

Do I have to pay for the new meter?
There will be no upfront charge to have a smart meter installed. Like other meter upgrades, the cost of the meter will be recouped over time in charges paid for use of the electricity network infrastructure.

Sounds like they're going to increase rates to cover the cost of installing these. Or it's included in the standard charge you pay just to have electricity. Free me hole.

Ubbquittious · 06-07-2019 4:14pm

s8n wrote: »

drive around ?

That's all they seem to do. Have seen 100s of the vans on the road

Skylinehead · 06-07-2019 4:15pm

kneemos wrote: »

Going to cost a cool billion apparently.

That's billion with a b,not billion with an m.

Considering there's well over a million households in Ireland, did you think they'd do it for under a euro a pop?

riclad · 06-07-2019 4:37pm

I don,t like it when services say use company x app,
not everyone has a smartphone, many people in rural area,s cannot get broadband, so they may not have wifi .
Theres a lot of older people or maybe people who for medical reasons , who cant use a smartphone .
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/14/two-million-smart-meters-not-working-research-suggests/

If you switch to another supplier they may not work, unless there is a
plan to make them compatible with all suppliers,

An eircom broadband router wont work on the 3 network .

Buford T. Justice XIX · 06-07-2019 4:37pm

Potential-Monke wrote: »

They're "free", but the same section says:

Do I have to pay for the new meter?
There will be no upfront charge to have a smart meter installed. Like other meter upgrades, the cost of the meter will be recouped over time in charges paid for use of the electricity network infrastructure.

Sounds like they're going to increase rates to cover the cost of installing these. Or it's included in the standard charge you pay just to have electricity. Free me hole.

And the fact that there won't have to be people going around reading meters every few weeks adding onto usage costs as well. So that's a bonus right there.

I'd be broadly in support especially if we can get paid to supply electricity back onto the grid. It would be a huge help in making the cost of installing solar power more economic for the end user.

Pa ElGrande · 06-07-2019 4:38pm

Both Siemens and Kamstrup have worked together on similar smart meter deployments around the world since 2012. The Irish project is planned for execution during 2019 and 2020, and a state-of-the-art data collection system called Kamstrup Omnia will be combined with the Siemens EnergyIP smart meter data management technology.

“Our industry-leading platform Omnia, used for data collection, and our smart meters OmniPower are based on extensive experience and proven technology,” explained the CEO of Kamstrup, Kim Lehmann.

“Our solution will provide ESB Networks with accurate, reliable and secure data, which is fundamental for ESB Networks to establish a stable and flexible network, and provide good customer service,” Lehmann said.

source

Looks like most of us will be getting the Kamstrup OMNIPOWER® Single-phase meter - see datasheet (PDF).

You can get plug in modules for them to integrate with your local wifi, not sure if ESB are allowing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVtkdrsQcrE

irelandrover · 06-07-2019 4:41pm

They were rolled out across Holland as well and I refused it. There's too many open questions about much higher bills.

https://www.electriciancourses4u.co.uk/blog/smart-meter-problems/

kneemos · 06-07-2019 4:42pm

riclad wrote: »

I don,t like it when services say use company x app,
not everyone has a smartphone, many people in rural area,s cannot get broadband, so they may not have wifi .
Theres a lot of older people or maybe people who for medical reasons , who cant use a smartphone .
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/14/two-million-smart-meters-not-working-research-suggests/

If you switch to another supplier they may not work, unless there is a
plan to make them compatible with all suppliers,

An eircom broadband router wont work on the 3 network .

An app will work on any phone.

JohnnyFlash · 06-07-2019 4:56pm

irelandrover wrote: »

They were rolled out across Holland as well and I refused it. There's too many open questions about much higher bills.

https://www.electriciancourses4u.co.uk/blog/smart-meter-problems/

I’m sure you can refuse to take a meter. However you’ll be charged the standard unit rate.

Potential-Monke · 06-07-2019 5:10pm

kneemos wrote: »

An app will work on any supported smartphone.

FYP.

Smart Meter Rollout

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