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    #32
    Irish_peppa
    Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    Why dont they make all social welfare payments via banking online instead of queing in post office for next few weeks or until further notice?:confused:
    I have to collect my JSA next week from post office and those post office ques will only be getting longer and standing inline in a cramp post office with people possibly with the virus is scary :eek:


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    #33
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Irish_peppa wrote:
    Why dont they make all social welfare payments via banking online instead of queing in post office for next few weeks or until further notice? I have to collect my JSA next week from post office and those post office ques will only be getting longer and standing inline in a cramp post office with people possibly with the virus is scary

    You are now able to get your Jobseekers payment into your bank account.

    Contact your local office in the morning and ask for the form to be sent out to you.


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    #34
    Irish_peppa
    Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    Necro wrote: »
    You are now able to get your Jobseekers payment into your bank account.

    Contact your local office in the morning and ask for the form to be sent out to you.

    Really is that a new thing? I asked last week in post office they said getting paid into bank was not allowable for JSA only Illness benefit and JSB but not JSA


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    #35
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    Can you not apply online. I'm trying to sort it out for my dad.


    I wonder if I can wait for this to pass and then collect my money in April? Will they know that 2 weeks weren't paid?


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    #36
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Leo Varadkar just gave employers carte blanche to screw over their workers. I knew there will be unintended consequences.


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    #37
    Lashes28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    I wonder if I can wait for this to pass and then collect my money in April? Will they know that 2 weeks weren't paid?

    Why wait?? Got sorted on the my gov website for him. Was really slow to load the pages but thats because they probably have a high volume.

    So strange they are recommending to claim jobseekers when nobody will be actively looking for a job. They will be just waiting for the pubs to open back up.


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    #38
    Necro
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    Irish_peppa wrote:
    Really is that a new thing? I asked last week in post office they said getting paid into bank was not allowable for JSA only Illness benefit and JSB but not JSA

    No it's for all now, post office wouldnt have up to date info.

    Tbf to them though the circular was only released on Thursday I think


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    #39
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    Why wait?? Got sorted on the my gov website for him. Was really slow to load the pages but thats because they probably have a high volume.

    So strange they are recommending to claim jobseekers when nobody will be actively looking for a job. They will be just waiting for the pubs to open back up.
    Leo said not to gather to avoid spreading the virus.
    I can't use the website because it's telling me I need to visit an Intreo center to verify my number (haven't been unemployed for many years).


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    #40
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    sheepsh4gger wrote:
    Leo said not to gather to avoid spreading the virus. I can't use the website because it's telling me I need to visit an Intreo center to verify my number (haven't been unemployed for many years).

    Call your local office in the morning and get them to post you the forms maybe?

    They are accommodating this more now given the current situation.


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    #41
    Gloomtastic!
    Registered Users Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    “ If you’re given a temporary lay off then subject to your PRSI record”

    If you’ve just received your PPS number because you are new to working in Ireland. How does this affect you?

    Asking for someone, who’s just moved here a couple of months ago, from Italy......


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    #42
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Gloomtastic! wrote: »
    “ If you’re given a temporary lay off then subject to your PRSI record”

    If you’ve just received your PPS number because you are new to working in Ireland. How does this affect you?

    Asking for someone, who’s just moved here a couple of months ago, from Italy......

    Likely it would be Jobseekers Allowance they would be applying for in this case as they base it on their social insurance record from I think 2018 for 2020. Not sure with Jobseekers do they take into account working in other EU countries off the top of my head.

    Jobseekers Benefit is based on PRSI (social insurance record)

    If you didn't qualify for that theyd then assess them for Jobseekers Allowance.

    Jobseekers Allowance is means tested so PRSI wouldnt come into it.


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    #43
    previous user
    Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭previous user


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    I can't even get on to the website
    Man that's crazy


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    #44
    Irish_peppa
    Registered Users Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    Necro wrote: »
    You are now able to get your Jobseekers payment into your bank account.

    Contact your local office in the morning and ask for the form to be sent out to you.


    An Post will allow a proxy to pick up social welfare payments on behalf of people who cannot venture out because of the coronavirus.
    In the event of a customer not being able to collect their Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection payments personally at the post office, a nominated person (temporary agent) can be nominated to collect the payment on their behalf.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/an-post-to-allow-temporary-agents-to-pick-up-welfare-payments-1.4203470


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    #45
    sticker
    Registered Users Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭sticker


    I have an appointment on Friday in Blanch Social Welfare Office. I do not have a PSC.

    Has recent changes last night meant I can claim for support online? If so, whats the link> I cant seem to find it.


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    #46
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    sticker wrote:
    Has recent changes last night meant I can claim for support online? If so, whats the link> I cant seem to find it.

    There is going to be a press release from the Department today and it will be announced in the papers for people to avoid local offices unless absolutely necessary

    There are going to be shortened Jobseekers claim forms available online in the coming days as well.


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    #47
    sticker
    Registered Users Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭sticker


    Necro wrote: »
    There is going to be a press release from the Department today and it will be announced in the papers for people to avoid local offices unless absolutely necessary

    There are going to be shortened Jobseekers claim forms available online in the coming days as well.

    Thanks - What website is best to check for updates?


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    #48
    previous user
    Registered Users Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭previous user


    Irish_peppa wrote: »
    An Post will allow a proxy to pick up social welfare payments on behalf of people who cannot venture out because of the coronavirus.
    In the event of a customer not being able to collect their Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection payments personally at the post office, a nominated person (temporary agent) can be nominated to collect the payment on their behalf.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/an-post-to-allow-temporary-agents-to-pick-up-welfare-payments-1.4203470
    Yes but and I think this is relevant, post offices have large crowds of people, would that not be a place where people would catch the Corona Virus from someone and pass it onto a half dozen people in the same room?


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    #49
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    sticker wrote:
    Thanks - What website is best to check for updates?


    Gov.ie is the best place to keep up to date imo.


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    #50
    Curlysue76
    Registered Users Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Curlysue76


    Was in at my local SW office just this morning. Was there 45 mins before they opened, by time they’d opened about 100 there.

    They were only letting in 10 people at a time and then letting one out one in. They gave us a form to fill out for an emergency payment. The first 10 in were allowed to fill it out in there but they said they would just hand it out to everyone else and they can drop it into post box later.

    The security guy said they would ‘not entertain anyone coughing, they would have to do it online’. They all looked overwhelmed to be honest. It’s going to be a very busy time for them.

    HTH anyone going down today, wrap up, be ready for a long wait outside.


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    #51
    redunited
    Registered Users Posts: 363 ✭✭redunited


    Been laid off, cant go to a social welfare office keep away im told.
    Cant use online because they need to verify my mobile number which must be done at a social welfare office.
    Cant get a mortgage holiday because I have no proof of a social welfare claim.

    Bascially im stuffed because nobody in govemrent or the banks have prepared despite telling us they have prepared.


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    #52
    sticker
    Registered Users Posts: 3,056 ✭✭✭sticker


    From Blanch Social Welfare Office

    Good morning,

    All appointments are cancelled. Please apply online using form COVID-UP

    Kind regards,

    Susan


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    #53
    Syncpolice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    Are they having people download application forms and post them or is that scrapped

    Seems unnecessary bureaucracy


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    #54
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Gloomtastic! wrote: »
    “ If you’re given a temporary lay off then subject to your PRSI record”

    If you’ve just received your PPS number because you are new to working in Ireland. How does this affect you?

    Asking for someone, who’s just moved here a couple of months ago, from Italy......

    That person is going to apply for SWA not Benefit.


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    #55
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Syncpolice wrote: »
    Are they having people download application forms and post them or is that scrapped

    Seems unnecessary bureaucracy

    How else would you get benefits other then applying for them.


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    #56
    Syncpolice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    splinter65 wrote: »
    How else would you get benefits other then applying for them.

    Online


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    #57
    redunited
    Registered Users Posts: 363 ✭✭redunited


    splinter65 wrote: »
    How else would you get benefits other then applying for them.

    I think a better way would have been for effected businesses to make a claim to the state directly for their employees. This way some companies could top up the wages of their staff if possible, alternative the person remains employed with the emplyer paying them the social payment.

    A lot less hassle and fuss.

    It also keeps a lot of business going, nobody knows how long this will last and a lot of people may never return to their employer as they will be forced to find work elsewhere.


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    #58
    redunited
    Registered Users Posts: 363 ✭✭redunited


    Does anyone know what happens if you are claiming Working Family Payment and now need to claim the COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment?

    Will they automatically stop the working fmaily payment?


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    #59
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    https://www.gov.ie/en/service/be74d3-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/

    There's a PDF form to download and post. Doing it NOW.


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    #60
    Curlysue76
    Registered Users Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Curlysue76


    redunited wrote: »
    Does anyone know what happens if you are claiming Working Family Payment and now need to claim the COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment?

    Will they automatically stop the working fmaily payment?

    Yes they do, they’ll ‘suspend’ it. So I guess we don’t have to start a new claim after all this passes. And this too will pass.


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    #61
    drake70
    Registered Users Posts: 656 ✭✭✭drake70


    sticker wrote: »
    Thanks - What website is best to check for updates?

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/99104a-covid-19-coronavirus/


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