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I've applied to these roles before and wasn't successful with interview/presentation but didn't have to do an aptitude test that was aprox 3 years ago! It was a hard interview though think they weren't too happy with my examples and lack of teamwork from college/work experience can't help most of my projects was individual based for the IT side of things and group based on the business side! arragh!
They really zoned in on the teamwork side of things. I think I gave too much examples and not enough detail but done interviews for civil service before and got on ok and my examples were ideal and detailed. Gave example/star approach on paper when answers competency questions and gave that example in interview and another example while interview was conducted and did grand.The_Conductor wrote: »Guys-
When they say they're looking for a minimum of 5 honours at leaving cert to include a minimum of a C in Irish, English, Maths (or however they phrased it)- they mean you have to have a minimum of a Level 5 qualification on the National Framework of Qualifications scale.
There is a scale published here
A pass leaving cert is rated at a 4 on the scale.
An honours leaving cert is rated at a 5
A certificate from an institute of Technology- is a 6
An ordinary level degree is a 7
An honours 4 year degree- or a hDip is an 8
A Masters or a Grad Dip is a 9
A doctorate is a 10
For this particular post- you need a minimum of a level 5 qualification.
All public sector appointments, that have minimal educational qualifications- use the National Framework scale (and have done for the past few years).
Note- an honors degree is a 4 year degree- and not a 1/2.1/2.2- a first in a 3 year BSc/BA (or whatever)- is a level 7 qualification not a level 8 qualification- this is probably the one and only point of confusion that normally arises.
Thanks for that that's interesting but thought that was based on the level for each qualification not how they marked according to scale by civil service?They are proper psychometric tests. I've books on them . If you struggle with either of these tests then you're not very bright and will struggle at certain jobs.
What psychometric books have you?
i've one that includes various different types of tests, I used it as prep for them especially if I had to go to a centre to do tests like i've done for banks but test was a silo and grains test totally different to aptitude tests. I do fine for the majority of the tests just the numerical I fall down on. Generally do grand in the logic/verbal/error checking ones.0 -
Hey there, so when can expect to hear back from the recruitment panel on this?
Just wondering about the likely timeframes involved, Will this be all done and dusted within 2 months, 3 months, 6 months?!
If you are not successful now is there a chance of a call in say a years time if something opens up etc?
Also any indication yet of likely amount of jobs outside of Dublin??? Are Cork, Galway and Limerick in with a shout?!
Best of luck everyone who applied....
Thanks
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I've applied to these roles before and wasn't successful with interview/presentation but didn't have to do an aptitude test that was aprox 3 years ago! It was a hard interview though think they weren't too happy with my examples and lack of teamwork from college/work experience can't help most of my projects was individual based for the IT side of things and group based on the business side! arragh!
It really depends on the role you're going for- and how that role might be perceived to slot into the organisation chart in the civil service. So- an AO might be largely autonomous- and expected to be able to work independently to a high standard and report back with an end product. An EO on the other hand- is actually more likely to have a few staff- and be more expected to have a collaborative approach to how they approach their daily work. They would not be expected to have as extensive a knowledge base as an AO would- and would in turn- be presumed to be using a HEO or even AP as a mentor to bring themselves up to speed. Teamwork is key for an EO- working independently- for an AO........They really zoned in on the teamwork side of things. I think I gave too much examples and not enough detail but done interviews for civil service before and got on ok and my examples were ideal and detailed. Gave example/star approach on paper when answers competency questions and gave that example in interview and another example while interview was conducted and did grand.
Having good examples is important- but also showing what your ownership of particular parts of the example was- how it interacted with the other people involved- and what the initial proposition was, how it was approached, how it concluded and what the outcome was (obviously you want something that worked- not failed)........Thanks for that that's interesting but thought that was based on the level for each qualification not how they marked according to scale by civil service?
Yes- its marked by the level for each qualification- so an honors degree- is a level 8 qualification- not a 1.1/1.2/2.1/2.2............0 -
Jack Sawyer wrote: »Hey there, so when can expect to hear back from the recruitment panel on this?
Just wondering about the likely timeframes involved, Will this be all done and dusted within 2 months, 3 months, 6 months?!
If you are not successful now is there a chance of a call in say a years time if something opens up etc?
Also any indication yet of likely amount of jobs outside of Dublin??? Are Cork, Galway and Limerick in with a shout?!
Best of luck everyone who applied....
Thanks
Unfortunately- and I hate using the phrase- 'it all depends'..........
PAS are snowed under with a plethora of competions- both internally and externally at the moment.
Normally when you apply- you'd hear back with details of an online assessment within 2-3 weeks (after the closing date of the competition), you'd have 2-3 weeks to do the online assessment (with a window for perhaps 5 days in which it has to be sat), it would take a few days for the external company to collate and send the results back to PAS- and then a few days for PAS to digest them........
If you fail to make it to the recruitment panel- it is not that it will be reopened, and people who failed to make the initial cut will be given a second bite at the cherry. Normally- panels were constituted for either a 12 or 18 month timeframe. When this period elapsed, or whenever the panel was exhausted- a new competition was held- and a fresh panel constituted. So- there was a competition at the backend of 2014- its foreseeable- that there would be another in 12 months time- or shortly thereafter........
As for posts outside of Dublin- several Departments have considerable IT expertise outside of Dublin- and while you may not be posted to one of these locations initially- normally you could expect to move to a more desireable location over time.
As an EO ICT- I got out of Dublin- to a regional location, close to home, and convenient for bringing the children to school etc- eventually....... It took me a few years to get to my desired location- and there was a bit of give and take to achieve it. I've at least 3 hours extra in my day because of the move.
The PSEU (the union who represent the EO/AO/HEO grades) distribute a monthly magazine to members- which has a few pages of positions that people are seeking transfers from/to at the back. There are always dozens of people seeking to move- some to Dublin from other locations- some in the other direction- some want to move Departments'- others want to stay with their home departments- etc etc etc......... Its a waiting game- but one that eventually a door opens on..........0 -
As for posts outside of Dublin- several Departments have considerable IT expertise outside of Dublin- and while you may not be posted to one of these locations initially- normally you could expect to move to a more desireable location over time.
As an EO ICT- I got out of Dublin- to a regional location, close to home, and convenient for bringing the children to school etc- eventually....... It took me a few years to get to my desired location- and there was a bit of give and take to achieve it. I've at least 3 hours extra in my day because of the move.
The PSEU (the union who represent the EO/AO/HEO grades) distribute a monthly magazine to members- which has a few pages of positions that people are seeking transfers from/to at the back. There are always dozens of people seeking to move- some to Dublin from other locations- some in the other direction- some want to move Departments'- others want to stay with their home departments- etc etc etc......... Its a waiting game- but one that eventually a door opens on..........
Thanks the Conductor, great to get all that information on request, much appreciated
Am a bit worried now though as realistically I will not be able to take a job in Dublin even for a year or two due to my family situation.
Is it right assume there little or no chance of getting offered say Cork or limerick etc straight off?
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