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Refill or swap caravan gas tank

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  • 10-02-2019 2:36am
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    rosmoke
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭


    Just bought a caravan lately and looking to refill the gas tank.
    Not sure where I can find a place that does refills (would lpg providers do it ?) or just replace it with a full tank?

    Another thing I'm curios, could I swap the current gas cylinder with the one that I have for the bbq? I see it connects using a jumbo regulator, so I'd have to move that as well to caravan?

    Any suggestions are welcome :D


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    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    The green bottle is a UK POL fitting, you need to buy a 21.8LH propane pigtail for the regulator and swap it over.
    The jumbo regulator can be made to fit but you will need to bypass the fitted regulator and I think thats a whole lot of hassle for potentially little gain, plus you will be changing gas to a type that will freeze below 0°C
    The pigtail you need is this one: https://gasproducts.co.uk/caravan-marine/gas-pigtails/20-148-propane-butane-gas-pigtail-butane-nut-x-w20.html

    Also the hose looks to have a severe bend in it you might be better buying a bigger bottle and the hose won't be as stressed.


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    _Brian
    Registered Users Posts: 18,474 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    We use the 11kg red propane cylinders in the caravan, has the same fitting as your current cylinder.

    It’s a tight fit into the gas locker but not too bad.

    https://goo.gl/images/PkmEA5


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    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    _Brian wrote: »
    We use the 11kg red propane cylinders in the caravan, has the same fitting as your current cylinder.

    It’s a tight fit into the gas locker but not too bad.

    https://goo.gl/images/PkmEA5

    Where do you get the POL valved cylinders here Brian?
    Irish Propane uses a LH thread with a W20 nut the same as the UK butane fitting.
    UK propane uses an internal POL fitting with a Bullnose to seal.
    Irish Butane has a Jumbo fittiing the same as the BBQ one shown.


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    rosmoke
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    Thanks for help lads, this is very helpful.

    I won't be byassing the caravan's regulator, so I guess I'll stay with the current system.

    So my best bet will be to stay with the current system, UK one?

    In this case I'll need to find a calorgas retailer that sells them around west Dublin.

    Thanks!


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    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    rosmoke wrote: »
    Thanks for help lads, this is very helpful.

    I won't be byassing the caravan's regulator, so I guess I'll stay with the current system.

    So my best bet will be to stay with the current system, UK one?

    In this case I'll need to find a calorgas retailer that sells them around west Dublin.

    Thanks!

    If you intend on staying in Ireland, then replacing the pigtail with an Irish Propane one would be the best.
    Finding POL Propane cylinders is not that easy.


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    rosmoke
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    What pigtail do I need to use the Irish propane ones?
    POL Pigtail to W20 ?
    I see they are 3 sizes if so, 20", 25" and 40", those sizes are for which end, pol or w20?

    Sorry, I'm clueless.


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    rosmoke
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    _Brian wrote: »
    We use the 11kg red propane cylinders in the caravan, has the same fitting as your current cylinder.

    It’s a tight fit into the gas locker but not too bad.

    https://goo.gl/images/PkmEA5

    I'd be interested where we can get the POL Propane cylinders as well Brian.
    Cheers.


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    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    rosmoke wrote: »
    What pigtail do I need to use the Irish propane ones?
    POL Pigtail to W20 ?
    I see they are 3 sizes if so, 20", 25" and 40", those sizes are for which end, pol or w20?

    Sorry, I'm clueless.

    The one I linked to comes in three sizes, 20" long 35" and 48" I don't think you need a 3ft or 4ft length so the 20" with the W20 nut will be fine.


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    niloc1951
    Registered Users Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭niloc1951


    As has been said you need to replace the existing pigtail with ONE OF THESE
    If you want to use a bottle with a clip-on connection, like your patio gas bottle, you can add ONE OF THESE to the end of the pigtail, it's not a regulator so you will still be using the original bulkhead mounted one.


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    rosmoke
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    Thank you lads, I finally got around understanding which is which, mostly to replies on this thread.

    In the end I have ordered the Gaslow 11kg wall filling LPG kit. I think it's better this way on the long term.


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    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    I guess that works if you don't plan on running out but with a refillable you can always keep it topped up.
    How much was that gaslow kit?


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    rosmoke
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    Yeah, I've had 2 cars on LPG by now, it is cheap and does the job.
    It was 320 for all system including adapters for EU + 18e caravan silicone adhesive.


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    CJhaughey
    Registered Users Posts: 14,906 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Wow, thats not a cheap system. €320 would buy a lot of gas.


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    rosmoke
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭rosmoke


    Yeah, just the tank was around 180 but there's the filling point another 90 quid, it adds up quick.

    Lpg is around 0.6e/l, should pay for itself after 17 refills, that's probably 2 years for me, but I plan to go around Europe this summer, so it'll be handy.


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    _Brian
    Registered Users Posts: 18,474 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    rosmoke wrote: »
    I'd be interested where we can get the POL Propane cylinders as well Brian.
    Cheers.

    There are three suppliers near me here in Cavan.


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    [Deleted User]
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    I ditched my 5kg reserve bottle when I installed the compressor fridge.
    Thuther 5kg now lasts entire seasons because I don't use it for heating either.


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