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Internet Addiction?

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    Problematic universal set. Agree.
    Are we ready to do grand theorizing with regard to Internet addiction, or should be consider theories of the middle range (see Robert K Merton)?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Some may be a good thing :

    correllations n all that though
    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/youth-crime-down-nsw-internet-social-media-2018-6

    By age 21 the proportion of the population that had come into contact with the criminal justice system had halved, with big falls in

    car theft (down 59%)
    property theft (also down 59%)
    and drink-driving (49%)
    Violent offending fell 32%.
    Property offences dropped 56%.
    Drug offending fell 22%.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,532 ✭✭✭worded


    They say you knew you were addicted to the internet on dial up years ago with a a 56k modem when your itemised phone bill arrived in a box


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    worded wrote: »
    They say you knew you were addicted to the internet on dial up years ago with a a 56k modem when your phone bill arrived in a box
    Enjoyed your humour worded.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 8,993 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Some may be a good thing : correllations n all that though
    New South Wales cohort sample. No comparative data with different cultures? Business Insider Report shows percentages. Percentages are descriptive, not inferential. No correlations or statistical significance levels reported. Sampling sizes not reported, or sample validation techniques. Other variables may have accounted for the change? Explained and unexplained variances for Internet addiction, or social media exposure? Also, confounding with one form against another?
    Dr Payne says the trend may also open the door to newer forms of criminal activities. “Those native to social media may explore antisocial and criminal behaviours online which at present attract far less scrutiny from parents and authorities,” he says.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,532 ✭✭✭worded


    Black Swan wrote: »
    Enjoyed your humour worded.


    Thanks, I loved that joke but rarely get to use it anymore as no one used dial up.



    I used to rename peoples internet dial up connection "Tinternet"

    I was helping a neighbour years ago and they had a teen age son and got a got a huge phone bill.

    They were leaving the connection on over night at times. How do I know when we are connected the old parents asked. OK do you hear this ... (I connected the modem and let them hear the modem hand shake)
    They listened to the phone extension and said ... oh is that what that sound is? LOL

    I connected a psychical spliter to save them from bankrupcy

    Ah the early days of Tinternet

    VIP


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 8,993 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    worded wrote: »
    I was helping a neighbour years ago and they had a teen age son and got a got a huge phone bill.
    Now we have mobiles with fixed rate unlimited text & voice. Phone also hotspot. Cost no longer prohibitive to limit potential Internet addiction.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Some may be a good thing :

    correllations n all that though

    True. :D But it makes for a handy excuse all the same! "I'm on the net 15 hours a day because I want to help reduce crime and make the world a safer place."


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    Now we have mobiles with fixed rate unlimited text & voice. Phone also hotspot. Cost no longer prohibitive to limit potential Internet addiction.
    Indeed! Just spoke with a colleague yesterday who subscribed to a major comm corporation that offered a free smartphone, along with unlimited voice & text, including mobile hotspot for 30 USD monthly. Depending upon how you define Internet addiction, I may be joining the ranks with these low prices shortly.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 8,993 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Black Swan wrote: »
    a major comm corporation that offered a free smartphone, along with unlimited voice & text, including mobile hotspot for 30 USD monthly.
    Metro... (something??).


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    Metro... (something??).
    Sounds about right, but will have to find that note.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 8,993 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    IAD. Internet Addiction Disorder. Or Ivan Goldberg's satire? Names a disease that doesn't exist?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    The Myth of Mental Illness by Thomas Szasz. Any merit when discussing Internet Addiction?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 8,993 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Black Swan wrote: »
    The Myth of Mental Illness by Thomas Szasz. Any merit when discussing Internet Addiction?
    Dated empirical studies. Thought provoking.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Fathom wrote: »
    Dated empirical studies. Thought provoking.
    Black Swan wrote: »
    The Myth of Mental Illness by Thomas Szasz. Any merit when discussing Internet Addiction?

    Gaming addiction now a disorder, according to WHO. A kickback has already started as experts warn it is "premature." Link: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/gaming-addiction-classification-premature-experts-say-1.3540055


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    "A London hospital is preparing to launch the first ever NHS-funded internet addiction centre for young people and adults."


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 8,993 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Black Swan wrote: »
    "A London hospital is preparing to launch the first ever NHS-funded internet addiction centre for young people and adults."
    Gaming disorders the NHS focus.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    Gaming disorders the NHS focus.
    "WHO (World Health Organization) officially classified gaming disorder as part of its International Classification of Diseases (ICD)."


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Black Swan wrote: »
    "WHO (World Health Organization) officially classified gaming disorder as part of its International Classification of Diseases (ICD)."

    It will be controversial. Different opinions among experts. This one might have a bit of road to travel yet!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    "Internet addiction is not included in the latest Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) used by health professionals for diagnosis."


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Why Is There a ‘Gaming Disorder’ But No ‘Smartphone Disorder?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 8,993 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Technology addiction.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Black Swan wrote: »
    Why Is There a ‘Gaming Disorder’ But No ‘Smartphone Disorder?

    Next on the way, perhaps?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Someone completely focused on texting walked into me on campus the other day, and I was disordered!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 8,993 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Black Swan wrote: »
    Someone completely focused on texting walked into me on campus the other day, and I was disordered!
    Funniest Vids has several text stumbles.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,306 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Black Swan wrote: »
    Someone completely focused on texting walked into me on campus the other day, and I was disordered!

    A ban on adults using smartphones is next on the list! :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    mzungu wrote: »
    A ban on adults using smartphones is next on the list! :D
    Smartphones use while driving, although outlawed, is one of the leading causes of traffic accidents across the pond.


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    Black Swan has me reading One-Dimensional Man (H Marcuse). Applies here to Internet addiction. Techno-society expectation.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,223 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    Black Swan has me reading One-Dimensional Man (H Marcuse). Applies here to Internet addiction. Techno-society expectation.
    As noted elsewhere, recommend skipping introduction, as well as chapters occurring before those that address "Thinking," techo-society, scientific method, and operationalisation. Especially read pre-scientific Galileo historical influences, and Edmund Husserl's critique of how applied science and technology has formed the boundaries of existence, suggesting such addictions would be normal and not dysfunctional in today's positivist technological society.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators, Regional North Mods, Regional West Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Regional North East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 8,993 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Beginning with "Thought" chapters.


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