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Armstrong Cup 2018-19

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  • #302
    zeitnot
    Registered Users Posts: 265 ✭✭zeitnot


    Kilmokey wrote: »
    I was just pointing out that there is nothing in the rules to preclude you from playing your last round games /match or any other round for that matter in advance.

    There's nothing in the rules to preclude you from *asking your opponents whether they agree with* playing your last round games /match or any other round for that matter in advance. Not quite the same thing!


  • #303
    Retd.LoyolaCpt
    Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Retd.LoyolaCpt


    Retd.LoyolaCpt wrote: »
    Gonzaga A 7.5-0.5 Dun Laoghaire
    Gonzaga B 5.5-1.5 Blanchardstown (1 game to be played during the week)

    Gonzaga B 6.5-1.5 Blanchardstown


  • #304
    sodacat11
    Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    Dun Laoghaire 4-3 Rathmines but we were a pawn up and looked like winning the last game so maybe 4-4. Not a good result for either team. In a "must win" situation for both teams I was very surprised to see early draw offers in some games and even more amazed that they were accepted.


  • #305
    sodacat11
    Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    D.L 4 v Rathmines 4 confirmed.


  • #306
    Tim Harding
    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Tim Harding


    League Final Day Changed
    26-Feb-2019
    Due to venue availability, the final day of the leagues has been moved to Sunday the 19th of May. Matches are allowed to be played in advance of this date by agreement of team captains.

    I just notice this was posted on the LCU website a couple of days ago.
    From bad to worse...


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  • #307
    DmanDmythDledge
    Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭DmanDmythDledge


    I assume that applies to all divisions? What is the venue?

    Also that notice only shows up on the Chess League link - doesn't show up on the leinsterchess link.

    Anyway, regarding playing matches in advance, I think only games that don't affect winning a division and promotion/relegation should be allowed to be played in advance of the date.


  • #308
    Past_Pawn_99
    Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭Past_Pawn_99


    Clashing with ennis congress too. Wonderful.


  • #309
    mikhail
    Registered Users Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭mikhail


    DmanDmythDledge wrote: »
    Anyway, regarding playing matches in advance, I think only games that don't affect winning a division and promotion/relegation should be allowed to be played in advance of the date.
    I have to agree. The last round games are all played together for good reason.


  • #310
    sodacat11
    Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    mikhail wrote: »
    I have to agree. The last round games are all played together for good reason.
    Then they should be properly organised in a decent venue (ALSAA is a kip) and at an appropriate date, not two months after the penultimate game and not clashing with the Ennis Congress. Rathmines play Benildus in the last round, I see nothing wrong with playing the entire match in advance even if it does let our rivals see what they would need to avoid relegation. Post a score and be damned I say!!
    :P


  • #311
    Tim Harding
    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Tim Harding


    Four matches this afternoon, all significant for either the runners-up spots or relegation, or both:

    Gonzaga A v St Benildus
    Kilkenny v Elm Mount
    Dublin v Balbriggan
    Bray/Greystones v Gonzaga B.

    Trinity play Blanchardstown on Monday to complete round 9.


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  • #312
    sodacat11
    Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    Tim Harding wrote: »
    Four matches this afternoon, all significant for either the runners-up spots or relegation, or both:

    Gonzaga A v St Benildus
    Kilkenny v Elm Mount
    Dublin v Balbriggan
    Bray/Greystones v Gonzaga B.

    Trinity play Blanchardstown on Monday to complete round 9.
    Fingers crossed for big wins for Kilkenny, Balbriggan and Gonzaga "B"
    The other game is a formality.


  • #313
    Rathminor
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Rathminor


    Interesting to see Colm back playing for Bray today! It’s a real scramble at the bottom by all teams to avoid the drop.


  • #314
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    sodacat11 wrote: »
    The other game is a formality.
    Maybe not quite. 3.5-3.5 with one to go


  • #315
    sodacat11
    Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    cdeb wrote: »
    Maybe not quite. 3.5-3.5 with one to go

    What I meant was that it will have no bearing on who wins the league, that was decided before a pawn was even moved back in September.
    The relegation battle is exciting though, I wonder how Dublin v Balbriggan is going?


  • #316
    Rathminor
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Rathminor


    Bray 2.5 Gonzaga B 5.5
    Very important points for Bray at the bottom of the league


  • #317
    sodacat11
    Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    Hmmm even with Bray fielding a very strong team they still lost 5.2-2.2. Gonzaza "B" imported Pein Jnr for the match.


  • #318
    Rathminor
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Rathminor


    Bray 2.5 Gonzaga B 5.5
    Very important points for Bray at the bottom of the league


  • #319
    Rathminor
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Rathminor


    Dublin 5 Balbriggan 3
    Even tighter now at the bottom;
    Over to Elm Mount now!


  • #320
    macelligott
    Registered Users Posts: 382 ✭✭macelligott


    R9: Kilkenny 3.5 - 4.5 Elm Mount


  • #321
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    So really barring an 8-0 win against Balbriggan, Dún Laoghaire are gone. Their Heidenfeld team lost today, so it looks like they won't replace themselves either. They should be huge favourites for the Heidenfeld though, like when they last went down.

    Other than that, it's still unclear. Current standings are -

    Bray 9-32.5 - to play Trinity and Elm Mount
    Elm Mount 9- 32.5 - Blanch and Bray
    Balbriggan 9-32 - Dún Laoghaire and Gonzaga A
    Rathmines 9-31 - Gonzaga A and St Benildus
    Dublin 9-30 - Gonzaga B and Trinity
    Blanch 8-29.5 - Trinity, Elm Mount and Kilkenny

    And one of those to go down. Rathmines have the hardest run-in, but Dublin's isn't easy either and they're effectively 1.5 points behind. Balbriggan need a decent result against Dún Laoghaire though cos they'll get very little off Gonzaga A on the last day.


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  • #322
    Rathminor
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Rathminor


    macelligott wrote: »
    R9: Kilkenny 3.5 - 4.5 Elm Mount

    Really impressive result for Elm Mount when they really needed it!


  • #323
    sodacat11
    Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    cdeb wrote: »
    So really barring an 8-0 win against Balbriggan, Dún Laoghaire are gone. Their Heidenfeld team lost today, so it looks like they won't replace themselves either. They should be huge favourites for the Heidenfeld though, like when they last went down.

    Other than that, it's still unclear. Current standings are -

    Bray 9-32.5 - to play Trinity and Elm Mount
    Elm Mount 9- 32.5 - Blanch and Bray
    Balbriggan 9-32 - Dún Laoghaire and Gonzaga A
    Rathmines 9-31 - Gonzaga A and St Benildus
    Dublin 9-30 - Gonzaga B and Trinity
    Blanch 8-29.5 - Trinity, Elm Mount and Kilkenny

    And one of those to go down. Rathmines have the hardest run-in, but Dublin's isn't easy either and they're effectively 1.5 points behind. Balbriggan need a decent result against Dún Laoghaire though cos they'll get very little off Gonzaga A on the last day.
    Dun Laoghaire won't be favourites for the Heidenfeld, whoever goes down with them will be. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a strong Gonzaga "C" and "D" knocking about somewhere too.


  • #324
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Gonzaga's third team is only in the O'Hanlon yet. Ennis next year

    Probably right with eleventh being favourites alright. Though I think DL are stronger than anyone currently in the division


  • #325
    sodacat11
    Registered Users Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭sodacat11


    I don't like this business of clubs drafting in players for matches at the end of the league when they haven't played for them all season. Pein for Gonzaga "B" today, Stell Antoni last season for Gonzaga "A" etc etc,,,,,,Bray had Daly today but he has been a regular for them in the past so that is excusable. I wonder if Dublin or Elm Mount had any "ringers" today??


  • #326
    Rathminor
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Rathminor


    cdeb wrote: »
    Gonzaga's third team is only in the O'Hanlon yet. Ennis next year

    Probably right with eleventh being favourites alright. Though I think DL are stronger than anyone currently in the division

    With such a strong “C” team to chose from, did they need to bring in Jonathan Pein on their B squad this round?


  • #327
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Is that a question to me or in general?

    My feelings on stuff like that are well known after our game v Curragh last year :)


  • #328
    Tim Harding
    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Tim Harding


    cdeb wrote: »
    Maybe not quite. 3.5-3.5 with one to go

    Last result in Gonzaga A v St Benildus?


  • #329
    cdeb
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    To be played on Wednesday I think.

    (Wasn't played today anyway)


  • #330
    Tim Harding
    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Tim Harding


    cdeb wrote: »
    To be played on Wednesday I think.

    (Wasn't played today anyway)

    So with Blanch & Trinity on 1.5-1.5, to be completed Monday, the true position is:

    Gonzaga A 52.5 (1 to play)
    Gonzaga B 44.5
    St. Benildus 39.5 (1)
    Kilkenny 39
    Trinity 37 (5)
    Bray & Elm Mount 32.5
    Balbriggan 32
    Blanchardstown 31 (5)
    Rathmines 31
    Dublin 30
    Dun Laoghaire 20.5


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  • #331
    undisputed
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭undisputed


    sodacat11 wrote: »
    I don't like this business of clubs drafting in players for matches at the end of the league when they haven't played for them all season. Pein for Gonzaga "B" today, Stell Antoni last season for Gonzaga "A" etc etc,,,,,,Bray had Daly today but he has been a regular for them in the past so that is excusable. I wonder if Dublin or Elm Mount had any "ringers" today??


    It was a regular Elm Mount team with David on board 1


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