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Tourists or Refugees

  • 12-11-2018 2:27pm
    #1
    cfuserkildare
    Registered Users Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭


    Not sure if this is the correct place for this, so if not could you please redirect the thread?

    Only hotel in Wicklow town is to become a Direct Provision/Refugee center.

    Has Tourism been downgraded in importance?

    Don't want money coming into the town?



    How do the locals in Wicklow town feel about this?


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  • #2
    Trailerr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭Trailerr


    cfuserkildare wrote: »
    Not sure if this is the correct place for this, so if not could you please redirect the thread?

    Only hotel in Wicklow town is to become a Direct Provision/Refugee center.

    Has Tourism been downgraded in importance?

    Don't want money coming into the town?



    How do the locals in Wicklow town feel about this?

    Donegal is also getting 100 refugees before christmas

    donegaldaily. com/inishowen-group-urges-public-to-welcome-100-asylum-seekers%2F&usg=AOvVaw3rt9qqqgEFeRfoLLE8Jman

    "Inishowen Together have issued a statement extending a warm welcome to those arriving but criticised the direct provision system."


  • #3
    endacl
    Registered Users Posts: 22,230 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    *paging Dr Brown*


  • #4
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,604 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Who stays in the hotel in wicklow town?

    Genuinely is it busy or was it closed ? is it closed? was it on the brink of closure?

    Wicklow has many hotels, im not sure wicklow town itself was a popular destination perhaps you can tell us some more as to why tourism is secondary. With details


  • #5
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Same in Roosky, Co. Leitrim. Another FG deal according to Roscommon People last week.


  • #6
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,748 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    I'll have Tourists for 3 please, Ben.


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  • #7
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,355 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    "Dey took er hotels" .


  • #8
    Chinasea
    Registered Users Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    It's about time we started to help and take a share. To-date we have certainly been extremely shy.

    Sad to see so much begrudgery.


  • #9
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    cfuserkildare wrote: »
    Only hotel in Wicklow town is to become a Direct Provision/Refugee center.

    Has Tourism been downgraded in importance?

    Don't want money coming into the town?

    well the flip side is that if there was only one hotel and the owners decided that a better option is to close as a hotel, then I imagine there is not a lot of tourists in the town to begin with

    supply and demand...


  • #10
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Chinasea wrote: »
    It's about time we started to help and take a share. To-date we have certainly been extremely shy.

    Sad to see so much begrudgery.

    I must have missed the lead story on the Six One about literally every single Irish person being housed, fed and watered.


  • #11
    pablohoney87
    Registered Users Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭pablohoney87


    Trailerr wrote: »
    Donegal is also getting 100 refugees before christmas

    donegaldaily. com/inishowen-group-urges-public-to-welcome-100-asylum-seekers%2F&usg=AOvVaw3rt9qqqgEFeRfoLLE8Jman

    "Inishowen Together have issued a statement extending a warm welcome to those arriving but criticised the direct provision system."

    Same people on every thread on donegal related news asking about "housing our own" etc. Houses get offered out all the time and are turned down because they are in Donegal. And the instances of rough sleepers is nil in the county pretty much.

    They never have a coherent point to make after that besides insisting the government should be housing the Irish homeless here ignoring the fact that it's been tried.


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  • #12
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Chinasea wrote: »
    It's about time we started to help and take a share. To-date we have certainly been extremely shy.

    Sad to see so much begrudgery.

    Why??


  • #13
    Chinasea
    Registered Users Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    I must have missed the lead story on the Six One about literally every single Irish person being housed, fed and watered.

    Did you miss the bit about war torn / nerve gas also, or must you be 'Christian' and white.

    How are all your relatives all around the world who sought refuge, decade after decade.


  • #14
    pablohoney87
    Registered Users Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭pablohoney87


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    I must have missed the lead story on the Six One about literally every single Irish person being housed, fed and watered.

    Nope, but you certainly missed the part where these refugees are being placed in centres outside of where the housing crisis is taking place.


  • #15
    rgodard80a
    Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭rgodard80a


    Chinasea wrote: »
    It's about time we started to help and take a share. To-date we have certainly been extremely shy.

    Sad to see so much begrudgery.

    Have you seen our "share" of European debt when Fianna Fail didn't burn the speculative unsecured bondholders?


  • #16
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Chinasea wrote: »
    Did you miss the bit about war torn / nerve gas also, or must you be 'Christian' and white.

    How are all your relatives all around the world who sought refuge, decade after decade.

    In the nearest safe country as demanded by Law.

    Hint - we're not it. Ever.


  • #17
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Chinasea wrote: »
    It's about time we started to help and take a share. To-date we have certainly been extremely shy.

    Sad to see so much begrudgery.
    Agree to an extent but the government need to get their **** together and sort out the housing crisis here first before bringing over other people to take care of. We’re the country equivalent to the traveller woman who keeps on having kids she can’t afford, adding to the population here when we’ve nowhere to put the people already here


  • #18
    pablohoney87
    Registered Users Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭pablohoney87


    Santos Deafening Doughnut wrote: »
    Agree to an extent but the government need to get their **** together and sort out the housing crisis here first before bringing over other people to take care of. We’re the country equivalent to the traveller woman who keeps on having kids she can’t afford, adding to the population here when we’ve nowhere to put the people already here

    One more time. These people are not being housed anywhere near the housing crisis. They are being placed in towns Irish people don't want to relocate to.

    Until Irish people are being turned down homes in these towns because they are being used to house refugees your point is moot.


  • #19
    Trailerr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭Trailerr


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Why??

    The war in Syria


  • #20
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    pablohoney87 wrote: »
    One more time. These people are not being housed anywhere near the housing crisis. They are being placed in towns Irish people don't want to relocate to.

    Until Irish people are being turned down homes in these towns because they are being used to house refugees your point is moot.

    And they are being paid for in fairy dust and good wishes, are they??


  • #21
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Trailerr wrote: »
    The war in Syria

    What has a war in Syria got to do with us??


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  • #22
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Any they are being paid for in fairy dust and good wishes, are they??

    Cold hard Facebook and twitter likes.


  • #23
    pablohoney87
    Registered Users Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭pablohoney87


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Any they are being paid for in fairy dust and good wishes, are they??

    Funds is not the cause of the housing crisis and it never was. FG are devoted to the free open market. Social housing pretty much violates all the free open market principles.

    Funding direct provision never has been a cause of the housing crisis and it never will be.


  • #24
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    pablohoney87 wrote: »
    Funds is not the cause of the housing crisis and it never was. FG are devoted to the free open market. Social housing pretty much violates all the free open market principles.

    Funding direct provision never has been a cause of the housing crisis and it never will be.

    Of course funds have to do with housing. The govt has a finite budget. We already spend over E800m in foreign aid, then import or grant leave to remain to "refugees" and give them housing etc which also costs.


  • #25
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    pablohoney87 wrote: »
    One more time. These people are not being housed anywhere near the housing crisis. They are being placed in towns Irish people don't want to relocate to.

    Until Irish people are being turned down homes in these towns because they are being used to house refugees your point is moot.

    Aw come one now wicklow is hardly the back end of mayo .
    wicklow town is one of the most expensive counties in ireland and is only 30 min from dublin.

    and to say there is no housing issue in wicklow is ill informed nonsense. have a look on daft at how many rentals ar available and the price of the few that are .


  • #26
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Chinasea wrote:
    It's about time we started to help and take a share. To-date we have certainly been extremely shy.


    How many will you be taking?


  • #27
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    pablohoney87 wrote: »
    One more time. These people are not being housed anywhere near the housing crisis. They are being placed in towns Irish people don't want to relocate to.

    Until Irish people are being turned down homes in these towns because they are being used to house refugees your point is moot.
    Oh so it doesn’t cost the taxpayer or government any money at all? Gotcha


  • #28
    sheesh
    Registered Users Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭sheesh


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    What has a war in Syria got to do with us??

    I apologise for bringing some reality into this bitchfest bu we do have international commitments to take some of these refugees.

    we took the kosovars in in the 90s and they seem to fitted in just fine


  • #29
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,770 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Trailerr wrote: »
    The war in Syria

    Nothing to do with Syria. Those migrants for Wicklow are coming from Nigeria, DRC, and some other African state.

    The op was right, 'economic' tourists.


  • #30
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Chinasea wrote:
    How are all your relatives all around the world who sought refuge, decade after decade.


    Well was the last time the Irish went abroad seeking refugee status? Thousands emigrated for work though.


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  • #31
    cfuserkildare
    Registered Users Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    The Grand Hotel in Wicklow was the center of a thriving music scene, only Wedding destination in the town too.

    However, the new management started raising prices by hundreds of percent until no-one could afford to rent the space.

    Again, I ask, what do the locals think about this?


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